Boss health

[Jon.Topps]

Just looking on the wiki, and it says the estimated RBE of the tier 5 normal boss is about 3.2 million, and the health for the tier 5 elite boss is about 43 million...
Is this really an accurate depiction of this? I could barely beat the normal T5 (it probably got half way down the course or so). The idea of something having more than 10x the amount of health just staggers my mind. I had like 20 or something 240 banana farms going, just drowning in cash. Is the T5 elite boss really this bad? If so, I don't know if I'll even bother trying, lol.

[Sneeks]

dont bother you have to micromanage really hard basically impossible and the fight takes forever because its so laggy

[Eudicots]

Yes the elite boss has significantly more health then the normal one. The elite basically requires vengeful sun god to beat. Its not impossible just a bit boring since there is only one consistent solution. As long as you have VSG monkey knowledge unlocked then it all comes down to your ability to generate bananas.

[H0LABANANA]

It's pretty much just the same thing, just way more laggy.

[Kunovega]

I beat it on elite, I think it was 40 million health at T5 not 43, I could do it again just to check I guess

[Kunovega]

So yea, I beat it again, Elite Tier 4 is 8 million health, Tier 5 is 40 million

Originally posted by Eudicots:

Yes the elite boss has significantly more health then the normal one. The elite basically requires vengeful sun god to beat. Its not impossible just a bit boring since there is only one consistent solution. As long as you have VSG monkey knowledge unlocked then it all comes down to your ability to generate bananas.

VSG alone won't take down the Tier 5. I had VSG, both Paragons Apex Plasma / Glaive Dominus and a tier 5 of nearly every tower type and it still gets halfway down the track, win at round 130 after 10 rounds of pounding on him

But yea, you pretty much just need massive money generation as soon as possible. I used like 20 cash drops to start a nest egg and then quickly put up a dozen banana farms, a dozen druid money makers, half a dozen monkey buccaneer traders and all the support towers to make them all cheaper to upgrade, max those and start planning your VSG location. VSG by around round 50 or 60, paragons by round 80. By round 120 you've filled the screen with maxed towers and still have a couple million bananas left over with no where to put anything else

I've done the same strategy to around round 300 on normal non boss attempts, though I usually take a little longer in the setup and don't waste as many cash drops up front

[Shiroe (cortana)]

First off, use 42x farms, not 24x..... They give you far more cash faster.
Also make use of M.A.D/x52 dartling...

But other than that, its 99% same solution for every bloonarius regardless of map. But for elite version, you prefarably want vengeful sun god godboosted before tier4.... along with other stuff...

But a tip:
Use 502 ice, 5xx sniper and 25x glue, they all help out alot against bloonarius

So far i have beaten every single elite boss they have offered, the hardest map was previous map, bloonarius prime map but still made it.

[Ninja Zyborg]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

I beat it on elite, I think it was 40 million health at T5 not 43, I could do it again just to check I guess

43 mil RBE is still probably correct - 40 million from the boss, 3 million from other bloons.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Ninja Zyborg:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

I beat it on elite, I think it was 40 million health at T5 not 43, I could do it again just to check I guess

43 mil RBE is still probably correct - 40 million from the boss, 3 million from other bloons.

Maybe, but the faster you kill him the fewer other bloons you are dealing with. T5 spawns at round 120, it has 40,000,000 health. It takes 20 rounds for the boss to reach the end and you auto-lose if you get to round 140.

So there's 20 rounds of variance in how many bloons you need to kill in addition to the boss, I can usually get him down by 130, I'm sure someone more skilled could do it at least a bit faster and if you were just slightly slower than me you'd be closer to 140.

That's anywhere from 1 to 20 more rounds of bloons on top of the boss.

[Stycore]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by Ninja Zyborg:

43 mil RBE is still probably correct - 40 million from the boss, 3 million from other bloons.

Maybe, but the faster you kill him the fewer other bloons you are dealing with. T5 spawns at round 120, it has 40,000,000 health. It takes 20 rounds for the boss to reach the end and you auto-lose if you get to round 140.

So there's 20 rounds of variance in how many bloons you need to kill in addition to the boss, I can usually get him down by 130, I'm sure someone more skilled could do it at least a bit faster and if you were just slightly slower than me you'd be closer to 140.

That's anywhere from 1 to 20 more rounds of bloons on top of the boss.

I think they were referring to how Bloonarius itself spawns Bloons, including BADs at the highest tiers

[The K-man]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by Ninja Zyborg:

43 mil RBE is still probably correct - 40 million from the boss, 3 million from other bloons.

Maybe, but the faster you kill him the fewer other bloons you are dealing with. T5 spawns at round 120, it has 40,000,000 health. It takes 20 rounds for the boss to reach the end and you auto-lose if you get to round 140.

So there's 20 rounds of variance in how many bloons you need to kill in addition to the boss, I can usually get him down by 130, I'm sure someone more skilled could do it at least a bit faster and if you were just slightly slower than me you'd be closer to 140.

That's anywhere from 1 to 20 more rounds of bloons on top of the boss.

Honestly, if your defenses are capable of dealing with Bloonarius, then the normal spawns will be popped incidentally. The only real issue with killing him close to 140 is that those fortified BADs have a real chance of leaking since they spawn so close to the end of the map at that point.

[Biometrix]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

I beat it on elite, I think it was 40 million health at T5 not 43, I could do it again just to check I guess

RBE, which includes all the spawns as well as the skull bloon sends

[zghaun]

Boomerang Spam only helped me till Elite T4

[Ackranome]

T5 E has a very standard VSG rush strategy. You can practice it - but you have to go get that tower ASAP every time.

It all about farming tons of money though. If you aren't into it - don't do it.

[Ninja Zyborg]

Originally posted by Stycore:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Maybe, but the faster you kill him the fewer other bloons you are dealing with. T5 spawns at round 120, it has 40,000,000 health. It takes 20 rounds for the boss to reach the end and you auto-lose if you get to round 140.

So there's 20 rounds of variance in how many bloons you need to kill in addition to the boss, I can usually get him down by 130, I'm sure someone more skilled could do it at least a bit faster and if you were just slightly slower than me you'd be closer to 140.

That's anywhere from 1 to 20 more rounds of bloons on top of the boss.

I think they were referring to how Bloonarius itself spawns Bloons, including BADs at the highest tiers

I was actually referring to rounds but that makes a lot more sense than what i was thinking

[Jon.Topps]

I presently have the VTSG with dark Adora, and a bunch of T5s, so much cash I don't know what to do with it all, and yet, I'm barely even going to beat the T4 Elite Bloonarius. I can't imagine 5x as much health as this (t4 has 8mil, t5 has 40mil).
Looking at a video online, there isn't much difference with what I'm doing, but I'm still scared.
EDIT: Well I lost, here's my set up, I still had over a quarter of its health left. This is nuts, lol.