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Taint Snorkeler Dec 20, 2018 @ 5:43am
Dead.
you proved me wrong ninja kiwi, and i respect that. good to see you do care.
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Originally posted by <font color="red">Rohan</font>:
For starters, you are very welcome to have to your own opinion and I don't fault you on that.
But whatever you may think I along with everyone else here do care deeply for this project and it does hurt that you feel you need to be so rude about this in putting down all the hard work we've done rather than just trying to give calm and constructive feedback. But I really have to point out some things if you're going to stress on them so much.

BTD Deluxe was a paid game which could not support further content updates and ended up being dropped from sales, so lets just stop arguing about that, because it's a very dead point.

I'm not sure about your region's price difference to me, but here BTD5 is a $12 game and BTD6 is a $12.40 game. Both have microtransactions and always have.
BTD5 contains purchase-only skins that you can't earn, instant rank ups, monkey money, lab tokens along with Double Cash, Healthy Bananas & Bigger Beacons with are essentially cheat codes.

BTD6 has nothing you can achieve via microtransations that BTD5 doesn't do as well or take even further. Before you say insta Monkeys, you can straight up buy in game cash in both games so... Insta Monkeys only make this cheaper while also adding an extra cool reward we can give out for free during gameplay, yes microtransations for them are random as well, but anything in this game you can beat using microtransations you can also beat without them so using any insta-monkey at all is a near guaranteed victory. Given all this I honestly don't see how you can make any case for an argument of microtranstions given you claim to come from a BTD5 steam & OG Flash background, because as much as I personally don't see any issue here... BTD5 simply has more micro-transactions than 6, and The OG flash version with even MORE. If you've forgotten this I will list some of these powers.
- Triple Lives
- Double boomerangs
- All buccaneers ignore bloon immunities
- Dart Monkey attacks explode
- Monkey Village range increases to almost the entire screen
- All towers sell back for full value
- Banana Farms produce up to 7 lives per round each
- All MOAB health is literally halved
- All ability cooldowns reduced by 30%
- All tack projectiles deal double damage

BTD6 also has more 'options' than BTD5 so, i'm not sure why you're stressing that point either. It honestly just doesn't have much of a need for them, but as we do find needs we will consider adding them over time and are already working on some user feedback there.


Originally posted by ☣Ѧngel Ḏust☣:
if ninjakiwi really cared they would have taken all that they learned and made btd6 not a port but its own thing. when bloons td5 deluxe dropped it had tons of content, new towers and better graphics. it was not just a port like this game. then when it was pushed from deluxe to steam, it had even more content day one maps, a new tower and more. so please explain to me how btd6 can be given a pass when i know the full history because i was there for it all.
Why though?
You're basically saying yourself it would end up like deluxe if that happened, but as I mentioned first off deluxe was not a success for Ninja Kiwi. Maybe ok, but it never achieved anything greater than the original so there's not really a point there.
We plan to keep on adding in awesome content to BTD6 for years to come, so why rebuild the whole game just to then have to put twice as much work into every update re-making it on multiple platforms? This feels very illogical to me. As a big fan of games myself, I would always rather the developers put double the time into making new content, and deluxe may have had slightly better graphics but BTD6 already has amazing 3D graphics with *at least* 52 different models individually crafted for the different cross-paths of every single tower in the game. I don't know if you realize how much time went into that, but yea is a fair bit mate.


I'm not sure if you've been around our Reddit either, or looked at any of the patch notes that have come out. But I am constantly updating balance in ways which are *heavily* influenced by community feedback, and I can absolutely guarantee you the users there will vouch for me on this, because they know that I care about them and their opinions.
Unfortunately we are simply not a very big development team, and we not only have to balance the game but balance balancing with updating and bug fixing so it is not a fast process. You must also be aware that too many huge sweeping changes all the time is likely to hurt balance in very negative ways as well, and overbuffing something in one update may sound like a good idea but in the end could very likely bring forward unforeseen problems which make things worse.
This comes back to us being a small development team, you can expect some massive companies to make huge global balance sweeps whenever they want when they have hundreds of people going over it, but we don't really have that.


I guess in conclusion.
I have no desire to discredit or disrespect your opinions in any way but I want you to know that I really do care quite a lot. I do feel quite justified in calling your points on microtransations wrong, just purely based on the backgrounds you have given us about yourself in general. On the rest, well that's all valid opinion which is on you, so no one can really force you to feel any other way, and I am sorry you feel hurt by this but I hope that over time you will see the love we put into each update and one day you will also see just how great this project really is.
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Taint Snorkeler Dec 20, 2018 @ 5:44am 
god...im so upset..... :steamsalty::steamsad::ccskull:
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Taint Snorkeler Dec 20, 2018 @ 5:48am 
also before anyone asks, yes, bloons started as a puzzle game Long Long time ago, td was the next part in the series.
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noah9942 Dec 20, 2018 @ 7:53am 
wow man no one forced you to buy it. if it wasnt a good deal you could have just ingored it or received a refund through steam. if you did even the slightest bit of research you'd know what you'd be getting when you bought this..
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Cdr.Keen Dec 20, 2018 @ 8:00am 
Nah, he's right at some points. TD 6 is definitely a downgrade compared to TD 5.
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Taint Snorkeler Dec 20, 2018 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by noah9942:
wow man no one forced you to buy it. if it wasnt a good deal you could have just ingored it or received a refund through steam. if you did even the slightest bit of research you'd know what you'd be getting when you bought this..
i did refund it, but dont defend them for this, as a person who has supported them for 15 years, im really upset....
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Martin Harris Dec 20, 2018 @ 8:52am 
This is disapointing I was waiting for this and they just release a stupid mobile game for a higher price.



Originally posted by noah9942:
wow man no one forced you to buy it. if it wasnt a good deal you could have just ingored it or received a refund through steam. if you did even the slightest bit of research you'd know what you'd be getting when you bought this..

Stop being so spineless, people want change from bad games, we complain because that is what the players can do and it's what we will do.
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Taint Snorkeler Dec 20, 2018 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by ThePatchWorkHoax:
This is disapointing I was waiting for this and they just release a stupid mobile game for a higher price.



Originally posted by noah9942:
wow man no one forced you to buy it. if it wasnt a good deal you could have just ingored it or received a refund through steam. if you did even the slightest bit of research you'd know what you'd be getting when you bought this..

Stop being so spineless, people want change from bad games, we complain because that is what the players can do and it's what we will do.
hey man, dont be too mean, i know you mean well but i dont want the post to turn into a agument post, im just here to express my sadness and crushed heart to the people on here that might not know how long kiwi has been around. its a damn shame what they have done to something i hold dear to my heart..........again, 15 years of trust just gone.......i dont know what else to say really....im stuck in a loop of this very idea that i can no longer support or trust them any more....
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Thomas5020 Dec 20, 2018 @ 11:13am 
Agreed. I've been buying everything NK release but this just feels like a half-arsed effort on their behalf. They put real effort into 5 on all platforms, but this one just isn't up to standard for PC release.
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Gakm4 Dec 20, 2018 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by ☣Ѧngel Ḏust☣:
a 11$ game with tasks forcing pay2win tactics?
I would like to know what you mean by pay2win tactics in this game.
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rmcin329 Dec 20, 2018 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by Gakm4:
Originally posted by ☣Ѧngel Ḏust☣:
a 11$ game with tasks forcing pay2win tactics?
I would like to know what you mean by pay2win tactics in this game.
I'd guess he's referring to double cash mode, which isn't really necessary.
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MENASE Dec 20, 2018 @ 8:36pm 
Originally posted by rmcin329:
Originally posted by Gakm4:
I would like to know what you mean by pay2win tactics in this game.
I'd guess he's referring to double cash mode, which isn't really necessary.

no, if i remember from the mobile there are some of those timed tasks that ask to beat levels with the premium units only and the like. stuff that can be done and bought with cash earned in game but i never even tried to do the math if the reward would be higher than the cost of the units cause i seriously doubt it would be.
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Rottybops Dec 20, 2018 @ 8:54pm 
What? No, there aren't. That's BTD5 Steam dude, and even then, you get so much MM on that game you're just complaining
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Bad Aim Bodyshot Barry Dec 21, 2018 @ 1:21am 
Originally posted by ☣Ѧngel Ḏust☣:
ive been playing bloons since bloons puzzle pack 1, before td even was a concept......and this is what we get? i have 190+ hours in btd5 steam and 400 in OG btd5 flash/deluxe, again, this is what we get? you have constently slapped long time supporters like me in the face and now this?

are you serious? you made us wait 7 months, for this?

a 11$ game with microtrans?
a 11$ game with no co-op?
a 11$ game with no balance?
a 11$ game that was 5$ on mobile?
a 11$ game with no options?
a 11$ game with tasks forcing pay2win tactics?

i could keep on going for hours.. why do you spit in are face like this kiwi? i had such trust and love for you, i bought everything you offered in the past to support you and this is what we get?
i feel like i lost a good friend.....has greed really taken you this low?

Do not think this is a hate post or troll post, im just so heart broken by this and must express that in this post. if you are reading Kiwi devs, i want you to remember this.......

Fans and Supporters First but above all else....Trust. Trust that you Ruined......

ill point out the stuff that does not matter:

microtranactions are perfectly fine in a game thats easy to get unlocks, you can quite easly save up monkey money to buy heroes, powers are quite the same but are not worth getting in 90% of cases and the only ones you will be using is farmer,pontoon and portable lake

2: no version of btd6 has coop, while there is a sprite of the coop logo thats it, and becuase of that we can assume it will come enentually (not every game needs coop

3: game is quite balanced, altough some things more then others, most op stuff is late-game or costs alot, archmage is just right, 47k for it seems about right

4: this i can see the point, their really needs to be a better ui showing the hotkeys and stuff like that

5: there is options for the stuff thats important, volume,backups,etc

5.5: towers, there is alot more options then in 5, i feel 5 is bland upgrade wise as while you choose a path, you can get the other teir 2s

6: how is it exactly, like i stated earlyer to microtransacations needed by along shot
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Black Angel Dec 21, 2018 @ 1:34am 
co-op is useless af
and tbh if you can not afford 11$ for a video-game, you should be really poor and you also should buy food instead of video-games
Last edited by Black Angel; Dec 21, 2018 @ 1:36am
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Taint Snorkeler Dec 21, 2018 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by Kami~ko:
co-op is useless af
and tbh if you can not afford 11$ for a video-game, you should be really poor and you also should buy food instead of video-games
uh? ok? whats up with people now flooding to defend this game? and whats up with the terrible logic in Kami's post? how old are you? im worried. if you bothered to look at my profile, im far from poor. end of story on that.
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