Remember when you had to play the game to unlock goodies?

[Delthea]

BTD 5 - Grind, beat various modes, collect monkey money, unlock double cash mode.

BTD 6 - Pay Twice the cost of the base game again to unlock double cash mode.

[NimrodAbsolution⁧⁧98]

İlk olarak ThePatchWorkHoax tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak taco tarafından gönderildi:

btd5 was also a f2p

steam version wasn't?

the flash version is?

[Martin Harris]

İlk olarak taco tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak ThePatchWorkHoax tarafından gönderildi:

steam version wasn't?

the flash version is?

Different games really, more content on bt5 deluxe/steam. BT6 is purchase only, so you cannot use the free bt5 to argue with.

[NimrodAbsolution⁧⁧98]

İlk olarak ThePatchWorkHoax tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak taco tarafından gönderildi:

the flash version is?

Different games really, more content on bt5 deluxe/steam.

Barely
a few maps and 2 towers

İlk olarak ThePatchWorkHoax tarafından gönderildi:

BT6 is purchase only, so you cannot use the free bt5 to argue with.

Exactly my point

[kwil]

I remember double cash breaking the game in BTD5 and making it too boring to play. Personally, I'd prefer it didn't exist so achievements have a little more weight behind them. Microtransactions or not, you're getting hundreds of hours of gameplay before you'll ever feel a need to buy any to keep up with a map. Think of them as a completely optional way to support the developer. Or better yet, think of those difficult maps only existing as a way of giving those who have the double cash some semblance of a challenge.

[󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡Russian Gaston]

Double Cash is completely retarded anyways

[Platypus]

They are constantly adding in new updates, they just added co-op mode even (for free. seriously.) so obviously they need to be making money off of their work somehow.

Would I have preferred the game cost $20 originally and had no microtransactions? Of course.

I understand that the dev's are also trying to make a living off of this, they aren't just making these games for fun so something small like double cash is fine. Now if they had locked tower tier 5 upgrades behind a paywall I'd be up in arms.

If you are wondering why it cost more than the base game? That's for good reason. You can enable double cash mode to essentially make every non-chimps game mode very easy. You are paying extra because you are getting a way to cheese the game and all future content they are bringing to you. (Outside of co-op)

[Pon-Pon]

I don't think unfair for OP to expect more for a game that they paid for? The game currently is already lacking a lot of features that were present in BTD5, and truthfully has an equal to a lot more pay-to-win content in it. (Although it does have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ which is nice)

Personally I don't think they should have easy mode locked behind a pay wall, but if they did change it to be free; I think they could do some cool exclusives for people who had paid for it to begin with. (Maybe some golden monkey skins or something)

Either way the game's still getting better with each update, but if they start adding DLC skins (So skins you can't get with monkey cash) I'm gonna be a lil upset if they dont add back in the features that were free in BTD5.

[Platypus]

Just wondering but what exactly is BTD6 missing that BTD5 had? Only thing I can think of is Mastery Mode and that has replacements in this game (chimps/half cash). Specialty building & that token stat shop were replaced with Monkey Knowledge in BTD6 so they aren't missing.

The OP is welcome to expect more but if the game costs $10 (1/6th the cost of a AAA game) then you really shouldn't expect everything in the game to be free.

[Martin Harris]

İlk olarak 「HANE」 tarafından gönderildi:

Just wondering but what exactly is BTD6 missing that BTD5 had? Only thing I can think of is Mastery Mode and that has replacements in this game (chimps/half cash). Specialty building & that token stat shop were replaced with Monkey Knowledge in BTD6 so they aren't missing.

The OP is welcome to expect more but if the game costs $10 (1/6th the cost of a AAA game) then you really shouldn't expect everything in the game to be free.

It's missing engineer and dartling gun, I miss them deeply

I disagree with this, when I pay for a game, I should expect everything to be free (10 eur games a while back every thing was free)

[Platypus]

Both those towers are being worked on and are returning to BTD6 iirc. Bloonchipper is probably just never coming back it was too overpowered.

Well everyone is welcome to their own opinion I've already stated mine. :)

[Pon-Pon]

İlk olarak 「HANE」 tarafından gönderildi:

The OP is welcome to expect more but if the game costs $10 (1/6th the cost of a AAA game) then you really shouldn't expect everything in the game to be free.

I really don't wanna take part in the conversation much more than I already have, but I'm just gonna say $10 for a game isn't cheap. lol Yes it isn't the price of an AAA game, but that's because it's not an AAA game. Stardew Valley cost $15, and has the amount of content you'd expect for $15. Same for The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth, OwlBoy's $17, Gris is $17. None of those games are the price of AAA games, but they all have extensive amounts of free content, and all look really good.

And I'm not even saying NK can't have paid content in-game, and infact I'd rather they did have that option if it meant we could have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ instead of DLC skins. I'm just saying that OP's not wrong for expecting more of a company, and you should expect more too!

Double $$$ was never anything I used in BTD5, but that's just because I didn't want to make the game a lot easier. If someone did want to make the game easier though they should be allowed to without a paywall, or with a payment only making it easier to unlock. (Similar to how you can unlock skills & everything quickly by paying for them. I think that's fair since at-least you can get them for free if you wait long enough.)

(P.S. For missing content I was referring to towers, but like I said in my OG post it's getting better with every update so I expect that to be fixed.)

[Martin Harris]

İlk olarak Popuri tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak 「HANE」 tarafından gönderildi:

The OP is welcome to expect more but if the game costs $10 (1/6th the cost of a AAA game) then you really shouldn't expect everything in the game to be free.

I really don't wanna take part in the conversation much more than I already have, but I'm just gonna say $10 for a game isn't cheap. lol Yes it isn't the price of an AAA game, but that's because it's not an AAA game. Stardew Valley cost $15, and has the amount of content you'd expect for $15. Same for The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth, OwlBoy's $17, Gris is $17. None of those games are the price of AAA games, but they all have extensive amounts of free content, and all look really good.

And I'm not even saying NK can't have paid content in-game, and infact I'd rather they did have that option if it meant we could have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ instead of DLC skins. I'm just saying that OP's not wrong for expecting more of a company, and you should expect more too!

Double $$$ was never anything I used in BTD5, but that's just because I didn't want to make the game a lot easier. If someone did want to make the game easier though they should be allowed to without a paywall, or with a payment only making it easier to unlock. (Similar to how you can unlock skills & everything quickly by paying for them. I think that's fair since at-least you can get them for free if you wait long enough.)

(P.S. For missing content I was referring to towers, but like I said in my OG post it's getting better with every update so I expect that to be fixed.)

I gotta be honest, 10 EUR for a game is cheap.

[Platypus]

Ah alright was just wondering what you thought was missing from the game.

There's nothing wrong with expecting "more" but you should be realistic with your expectations, they are a company that needs to make profit so I think having "double cash mode" locked behind a paywall is pretty reasonable especially considering that the skins (which were behind a paywall in BTD5) are available for free.
Personally I much prefer having skins earnable in-game over having double cash mode earnable in-game. My own opinion though.

Easy mode already exists in the game and it is just that- easy. If someone can't beat a harder difficulty and just activates double cash mode they aren't learning to overcome the challenge they are simply activating a "cheat mode" that's available in-game. It's fair to have lazy people pay more money for their convenience and lots of games do that.

BTD 6 costs $10 (less currently) and you can easily spend 50 hours in this game so the amount of free content you get is most definitely what you paid for.
I also wouldn't say it's fair to compare this game to best sellers such as Stardew Valley or Binding of Isaac. Those are very popular games that make many many more sales than BTD does.

[Strawberries!]

BTD5 Steam and BTD6 Steam are two different types of games. BTD5 Steam has slim to none in relationship with mobile. BTD5 Steam is essentially a replacement for BTD5 Deluxe and is a a standalone title, i.e there is no linking between mobile and the steam version of BTD5. They are two completely separate games.

BTD6 Steam on the other hand is linked and is a cross platform game in every sense. Since the two versions are practically intertwined, any modification to the price would likely be applied tot the other version.

Basically, reducing or nullifying the cost of certain IAPs on Steam would mean the same would be likely done to the mobile version, since they are the same game. If BTD6 was a separate game like BTD5 Steam is, then the game lacking IAPs would make sense and therefore be justified.

I hope this was able to clear things up.