CO-OP Really Laggy

[Martin Harris]

It runs so slow it's so hard to enjoy.

[Akamaru1987]

It lagging and disconnecting from a PC to a PC there no excuses there

[Taint Snorkeler]

引用自 Akamaru1987：

It lagging and disconnecting from a PC to a PC there no excuses there

thats peer2peer at work ftw!

[Akamaru1987]

:(

[Bad Aim Bodyshot Barry]

honestly even though NK put alot of time making coop run smoothly most of the time one or more people DC, not to mention that one player that reconnects every 15 seconds

[[poi]Therion]

It even disconnects in the same lan. ipad vs ipad works well

[DarkMatter]

引用自 Zennith：

I'm wondering if this is cross-platform? If so, maybe it's people's phone connections that are the issue.

Primarily play on mobile, no problem sometimes. But if the other player have a slow phone hardware, or just plain old system, that contributes greatly on lag issues.

[HoBoMiKe]

引用自 ThePatchWorkHoax：

引用自 ĴØŘΜƱƝǤAȠD：

co-op is done via Peer2Peer network. it does not matter if you have great internet, if the person connecting is far away or has bad internet, you will suffer for it. thats why i HATE WITH A PASSION Peer2Peer online co-op but its better then nothing.

I love Peer2Peer, When it's done well.

I doubt it has any matchmaking based on location does it? If it did maybe that would improve it.

Agreed. I feel bad when the game puts me in matches with people really far away, because I don’t have a gaming PC and I feel like I’m slowing down the fun for guys who want to go to round 100 :(

[Vexstormpain]

Hello! I have been playing co-op, SERIOUSLY terrible lag, going at about 1 frame per 10 seconds. What I mean is that's pretty much how fast it goes, not my frames. It was both of us when the other person had left and before that it was SO SLOW. We were on round 116. All of a sudden, the game is normal. No lag, no issues, no disconnections. NOTHING. I think what is happening here is that there are categories: Bloons in one, towers in one and clients in one. What I predict is happening (Just a theory) Is that bloons were slowing down the connection us between the database (Or something like that) . This caused issues in game, and as the connection was disturbed, the bloons were starting to lag because it works by connection, internet and more. A phone could be one reason, you could just modify, or plug in ethernet cable, might work, I don't know how ethernet works in phones and tablets. The second reason I predict is just internet. I think this is highly unlikely because the fact that people are playing bloons suggests to me they have atleast somewhat of an okay wifi connection. The third factor is just the servers, but I don't think so as the games at the start work very well, you load in quickly if you have ok internet connection, it easily finds people to play with, their stats, very rarely connection issues based off of server-side. My fourth factor is towers. Spamming towers (Even though it clearly says on google if you research a little) could result in lag because this is how I see a tower works: The server and the client handle the towers because the client places the towers, the server accepts and functions it. Many towers just spammed could cause lag, but I think this is highly unlikely because the game has a function over the towers. I do not know if the servers control the towers or client, I assume servers because they receive data and transfer the data to the script, allowing the script to function the towers or something like that. There could be more options, this was just 5 minute thinking and a quick type. If there are any grammar mistakes, I am sorry, or anything like that.

[Dragon Master Alex]

To me this doesn't seem like peer to peer. The connection isn't established directly because there are problems when your on the same network as the other player. I think all the data runs through a relay server which means rather than going direct Peer to Peer we're getting Peer to Relay to Peer. Which, depending on the location of the relay server and the amount of traffic it has to process, would cause significant ping issues. Also I played when it first came out and more recently picked it up again. The lag is far worse now than ever. This could be because of reduced relay servers meaning my connection is now farther away than ever before.

Possible solutions I see

1: Connect true peer to peer. This would reduce lag, but the trade off is possible vulnerabilities with the direct connection.

2: Host Co-Op games Server Side. This would also reduce lag but come at an increased cost of server power necessary. As revenue drops as player retention drops this may not be an option for the developer.

Bonus: Allow formation of Lan Games. This is an option I think all games with co-op should still have. While this is not a solution for public games, games with friends on the same network would work much better and with the right set up you can connect networks together for over online play.

Just my thoughts, I'm not a Dev or Have much more than a passing knowledge of Networking. I do have my AAS in Network Administration. I don't know how difficult any of this would be to implement or secure for safe use.

Hope everyone has a great day.

[Daniel_Tdr]

1 tipp is dont try to play 4 player co-op tahtes more or less always laggy. 2 player co-op often works well

[It's not a trap. Trust me]

引用自 ThePatchWorkHoax：

Maybe farms shouldn't make bananas? It seems like that lags alot not sure.

not banana problem its the server host it self

[Martin Harris]

I made this thread in 2019... please make a new one.

[Daniel_Tdr]

引用自 ThePatchWorkHoax：

I made this thread in 2019... please make a new one.

im so sorry. also try to close the thread

[themazingness]

引用自 Daniel_Tdr：

引用自 ThePatchWorkHoax：

I made this thread in 2019... please make a new one.

im so sorry. also try to close the thread

You can't close threads. That's a moderator thing. You can delete them or unfollow them.

This is why you don't go necroing old threads .

[Daniel_Tdr]

引用自 themazingness：

引用自 Daniel_Tdr：

im so sorry. also try to close the thread

You can't close threads. That's a moderator thing. You can delete them or unfollow them.

This is why you don't go necroing old threads, lol.

i mean this time i wasnt the person necroing it