Pearl Harbor and War Entry

[Andre Bolkonsky]

First, I am a long time player of the Strategic Command series from the elder days. And have spent a lot of hours playing Strategic Command: Europe this past year. I bought this game the moment I saw it was released.

I cannot find in the manual or in the game a description of US naval limitations regarding stacking Pearl Harbor, triggering the Japanese. I had my entire fleet at San Diego, and a Japanese fleet merely appeared at Pearl and no engagement of any kind happened.

How does this work, exactly, please?

The same question exists for releasing the Siberian Army to defend Moscow, how is that handled in the game? Does Japan ignore Russia even with no army guarding Vladivostok due to an agreement and the memory of Soviet army pushing them around on the field?

[GoldenTalon]

There is a 1939 strategy guide in the steamapps/common/world at war folder. On your two questions:
* You can only hav 3 air/land units on Hawaii and 3 ships within 30? hexes of Midway before the war. Then after Japan attacks Hawaii you are free to engage. You can garrision Guam, Midway, etc. but make sure units are moved at different times to not trigger the 3/3 rule.
* The Siberian army spawns when Germany attacks. You can then operate or move west. You also start with some units on the Manchurian border which can be moved west. I always kept a garrison and cav unit on Manchurian border but I suspect Japan may not attacl even if these are moved.

[Bill Runacre]

Hi Andre

In answer to your first question, the information is contained within the relevant campaign's Strategy Guide. Search for the term US Neutrality for the details.

Regarding your fleet being at San Diego when the Japanese advanced on Pearl Harbor, do you mean that the Japanese navy didn't attack the US forces there, or something else? I presume that the US and Japan were at war at this stage?

In terms of Red Army forces in Siberia, units do deploy when the USSR reaches 100% Mobilization, and it is up to the players how many of these are sent to the west, and when. There is no automatic event to transfer forces from the east to west, as it's under your control.

It's also up to the Axis to decide whether Japan can take advantage of Soviet weakness in the east, or whether to maintain their neutrality with the USSR and focus all their war effort against the other Allied countries.

I hope that helps answer your questions.

Bill

[Andre Bolkonsky]

Originally posted by Bill Runacre:

Hi Andre

In answer to your first question, the information is contained within the relevant campaign's Strategy Guide. Search for the term US Neutrality for the details.

Regarding your fleet being at San Diego when the Japanese advanced on Pearl Harbor, do you mean that the Japanese navy didn't attack the US forces there, or something else? I presume that the US and Japan were at war at this stage?

In terms of Red Army forces in Siberia, units do deploy when the USSR reaches 100% Mobilization, and it is up to the players how many of these are sent to the west, and when. There is no automatic event to transfer forces from the east to west, as it's under your control.

It's also up to the Axis to decide whether Japan can take advantage of Soviet weakness in the east, or whether to maintain their neutrality with the USSR and focus all their war effort against the other Allied countries.

I hope that helps answer your questions.

Bill

Hi Bill, Thank you. We have spoken in the past, I am big fan a big of Huberts work.

The fact there was a PDF with the strategy guide for the scenario was what I needed to know. Of course, as soon as I knew what I was looking for, I immediatly found the scroll bar on the main screen that accesses all the PDF strat guides. I'll mark that one down as user error. ANd thanks again for the heads up.

Reading the PDF, replaying the turn Japan launches the surprise attack, it made perfect sense. What I meant by my fleet being in San Diego was that was where my Pacific Coastal Fleet was massed at the time. The four ships spawned at Pearl and were decimated by Japan on turn 1 of her attack, which explained why I saw nothing the first time around.

Regarding the game, it lives up to games you guys have created in the past. I'm about 20 hours in and was quickly hooked. While I miss the DEEP expanse of space the Europe map had that truly took a few moves to push an armor from Poland to Moscow, you've more than made up for it with the Battle of the Pacific and China. Keep up the good work!

When I finish this game I'll make sure to fill out a full blown review on Steam, you'll be getting top marks.

[Bill Runacre]

Thanks Andre, that'll be much appreciated. :-)

[Kornstalx]

Originally posted by GoldenTalon:

* You can only hav 3 air/land units on Hawaii and 3 ships within 30? hexes of Midway before the war. Then after Japan attacks Hawaii you are free to engage. You can garrision Guam, Midway, etc. but make sure units are moved at different times to not trigger the 3/3 rule.

Careful with this, I believe it's "3 or more" meaning it triggers starting with 3, not beyond 3. I've haven't looked at the actual scripts or deliberately surpassed 2 units in a game to confirm this, but the exact message you get is worded to suggest just three units triggers it.

Screenshot of the warning: https://i.imgur.com/7zKEIxg.jpg

[TheCr33pur]

Those ships that took place at Pearl Harbor, should have been locked for upcoming events for Pearl Harbor attacks between USA and the Empire of Japan. Now if USA moved all those captial ships to west or east coast, then something would be completely different. Japan would probably would have hit the west coast or postpone the attacks. Otherwise USA wouldnt be at war with Japan later on in 1942 or never.

So need to lock those old battleships that was in Pearl so that the Japanese can attacks, then after that you can do whatever you want.

[Andre Bolkonsky]

Originally posted by Kornstalx:

Originally posted by GoldenTalon:

* You can only hav 3 air/land units on Hawaii and 3 ships within 30? hexes of Midway before the war. Then after Japan attacks Hawaii you are free to engage. You can garrision Guam, Midway, etc. but make sure units are moved at different times to not trigger the 3/3 rule.

Careful with this, I believe it's "3 or more" meaning it triggers starting with 3, not beyond 3. I've haven't looked at the actual scripts or deliberately surpassed 2 units in a game to confirm this, but the exact message you get is worded to suggest just three units triggers it.

Screenshot of the warning: https://i.imgur.com/7zKEIxg.jpg

Yes. The penalty starts with the third unit in Hawaii. Confirmed.