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Jill becomes an intolerable feminist ♥♥♥♥
Like... why are some people saying that?
I genuinely do not understand.

What did she do or say exactly?
I've watched the trailers, played the demo.
She has been acting like a normal person so far...
I don't remember she said anything outrageously PC or acted that way.

Did I miss something?
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WORLD CLASS Mar 31, 2020 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by kiteless:
Originally posted by Financially Independently:
ROFL oh my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ god
Seriously?

No retort left? You don't seem very open to discussion, not sure why you opened this thread if that's the case.
I'm just waiting for someone to hit you with the "Crybaby" line or the "This game isn't for you" line. That's all these woke feminist RE fans seem to have in their arsenal. Popcorn at the ready.....
orangebish Mar 31, 2020 @ 2:59am 
Originally posted by kiteless:
Isn't it pretty sexist to assume that just because a women is girlie, or dresses feminine then she has no personality. How is a girl acting and dressing masculine anymore 'personality' driven
You completely missed my point. I wasn't talking about the woman, I was talking about your reaction and expectations. I have no problem with old and/or new Jill, you are the one who's complaining about her new looks and behavior.
Blackened Halo Mar 31, 2020 @ 3:03am 
to be honest I was frankly disguisted by how she reacted in the demo....as if she was some kind of thug, punk or just ....
Vilhjálmr Mar 31, 2020 @ 3:05am 
You'd probably act pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ too if you were forced to work with people employed by the company responsible for killing most of your comrades.

I don't like the new Jill either, but her hostile attitude doesn't come across as feminist at all.
Dicky Doodles Mar 31, 2020 @ 3:16am 
She's a trained soldier who highly distrusts umbrella, in the middle of an umbrella made disaster that is devastating her city beyond repair, where thousands of people are losing their life... while she was being ignored by her superior (Chief Irons). She isnt gonna act all kawaii to please a couple of idiots with no criteria.

I´m the first to spot twisted 3rd wave feminist agendas inserting themselves in media, and i can assure, there is no such thing going on in this game, whoever thinks that seriously, needs to reconsider the posibility that their hatred towards feminism has taken them to straight up hate women who show any level of self assertion... Jill will learn through the game that she misjudges Carlos, just because he's an Umbrella pawn... In a way, its giving the reverse message that feminism nowadays tries to forcefully push, which is "all men, no matter from what background, circumstances, behaviour or way of thinking are part of some system of opression, and they must relinquish their will and submit blindly to whatever any woman asks of them"... Jill will be proven wrong to distrust Carlos just because he's an umbrella employee, like any feminist would be proven wrong if they decided to look beyond their morally corrupt ideology.

So whoever thinks they're injecting feminism into RE, stop being paranoid, it is clouding your judgement of what's what.

The only character that has ever behaved remotely like a feminist within the franchise was Moira Burton, from revelations 2, when she was a bratty, entitled idiot... After she went through the whole survivor experience, and made through thanks to a traditional old school guy like Evginy, she learns to value people beyond what tey have between their legs, and makes peace with her father.

All that being said, i don't love the new Jill, but not because some assumed feminism that doesnt even exist within the game, but the actual model change... I like consistency... So if they keep this model, for ETERNITY, and capcom promises to never change her again, then she might grow on me, but we all know they're gonna just give a bunch of money to the next shallow instragram model some horny japanese devs is creeping on... So... Not optimal.
Originally posted by orangebish:
Originally posted by kiteless:
Isn't it pretty sexist to assume that just because a women is girlie, or dresses feminine then she has no personality. How is a girl acting and dressing masculine anymore 'personality' driven
You completely missed my point. I wasn't talking about the woman, I was talking about your reaction and expectations. I have no problem with old and/or new Jill, you are the one who's complaining about her new looks and behavior.

Wait, so why am I being vilified for believing in the perfectly healthy mindset that men are men and women are women and that women being turned into men is neither progressive nor desirable.

Vilhjálmr Mar 31, 2020 @ 3:21am 
Originally posted by Mailus:
She's a trained soldier who highly distrusts umbrella, in the middle of an umbrella made disaster that is devastating her city beyond repair, where thousands of people are losing their life... while she was being ignored by her superior (Chief Irons). She isnt gonna act all kawaii to please a couple of idiots with no criteria.

I´m the first to spot twisted 3rd wave feminist agendas inserting themselves in media, and i can assure, there is no such thing going on in this game, whoever thinks that seriously, needs to reconsider the posibility that their hatred towards feminism has taken them to straight up hate women who show any level of self assertion... Jill will learn through the game that she misjudges Carlos, just because he's an Umbrella pawn... In a way, its giving the reverse message that feminism nowadays tries to forcefully push, which is "all men, no matter from what background, circumstances, behaviour or way of thinking are part of some system of opression, and they must relinquish their will and submit blindly to whatever any woman asks of them"... Jill will be proven wrong to distrust Carlos just because he's an umbrella employee, like any feminist would be proven wrong if they decided to look beyond their morally corrupt ideology.

So whoever thinks they're injecting feminism into RE, stop being paranoid, it is clouding your judgement of what's what.

The only character that has ever behaved remotely like a feminist within the franchise was Moira Burton, from revelations 2, when she was a bratty, entitled idiot... After she went through the whole survivor experience, and made through thanks to a traditional old school guy like Evginy, she learns to value people beyond what tey have between their legs, and makes peace with her father.

All that being said, i don't love the new Jill, but not because some assumed feminism that doesnt even exist within the game, but the actual model change... I like consistency... So if they keep this model, for ETERNITY, and capcom promises to never change her again, then she might grow on me, but we all know they're gonna just give a bunch of money to the next shallow instragram model some horny japanese devs is creeping on... So... Not optimal.
Well said. Sadly I doubt this will get through to most trying to push this agenda.
Did you play the original RE? Jill was practically a klutz, kept getting into trouble and needed barry to save her, plus she acted like she didn't have a clue most of the time.

Now she's just a moody man-women who knows how a radio works.
Last edited by kiteless 凧無し; Mar 31, 2020 @ 3:26am
chasesummers Mar 31, 2020 @ 3:25am 
She's a 23 year old, she's not Jill Valentine in RE5. She's angry lol, her world has gone to hell. But she seems okay.
Dicky Doodles Mar 31, 2020 @ 3:41am 
Originally posted by kiteless:
Did you play the original RE? Jill was practically a klutz, kept getting into trouble and needed barry to save her, plus she acted like she didn't have a clue most of the time.

Now she's just a moody man-women who knows how a radio works.


Everyone was wacky back then... Barry bordered utter incompetence "its really powerful, specially against living things!"... Not a good argument. Chris calls Wesker "pathetic" while laughing, and Wesker be like "uuhu... stahp it" ... All STARS members were incompetent morons if we judge by the old games standards. Wesker was wearing sunglasses before Capcom even thought about bringing him back as a BOW shtlord. So no, he wasnt originally covering his evil eyes, he was just a dumbass, who became a killable zombie in the Saturn version.

We've established that losing your hometown after your superior refuses to expose the corporation that did it is enough reason to make someone moody, when then she finds soldiers of said corporation "claiming" to be helping civilians, and the truth is... With Nikolai, she would have been completely right to be so uptight and edgy, but with Carlos, not, she learns through the game taht's she's mistaken about him, god forbid someone growing up from their prejudice, like Jill has towards anything and anyone with an Umbrella logo... Chris end up working for them, and he's so pissed about it in the Not a Hero DLC, but because there were plenty of good people within the company, among them the Ashfords before the twins (Alexia and Alfred) were born, They were the largest benefactors for umbrella, cause they wanted to discovers ways in which they could help humanity.

But i guess context never matters, she must be some smiley bimbo just because "Resident evil is dumb anyways" right?
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Vilhjálmr Mar 31, 2020 @ 3:47am 
Someone call the authorities. This man just committed a murder.
shado Mar 31, 2020 @ 3:53am 
Originally posted by ThinkingCap42:
Originally posted by orangebish:
Yes, you missed that some people who have some kind of infatuation with this character want her to look and behave like a cute, sexy, submissive waifu and not like a real person.
as it should be.
keep toddlers away from this "man" :headcrab:
Originally posted by Mailus:
Originally posted by kiteless:
Did you play the original RE? Jill was practically a klutz, kept getting into trouble and needed barry to save her, plus she acted like she didn't have a clue most of the time.

Now she's just a moody man-women who knows how a radio works.


Everyone was wacky back then... Barry bordered utter incompetence "its really powerful, specially against living things!"... Not a good argument. Chris calls Wesker "pathetic" while laughing, and Wesker be like "uuhu... stahp it" ... All STARS members were incompetent morons if we judge by the old games standards. Wesker was wearing sunglasses before Capcom even thought about bringing him back as a BOW shtlord. So no, he wasnt originally covering his evil eyes, he was just a dumbass, who became a killable zombie in the Saturn version.

We've established that losing your hometown after your superior refuses to expose the corporation that did it is enough reason to make someone moody, when then she finds soldier of said corporation "claiming" to be helping civilians, and the truth is... With Nikolai, she would have been completely right to be so uptight and edgy, but with Carlos, not, she learns through the game taht's she's mistaken about him, god forbid someone growing up from their prejudice, like Jill has towards anything and anyone with an Umbrella logo... Chris end up working for them, and he's so pissed about it in the Not a Hero DLC, but because there were plenty of good people within the company, among them the Ashford before the twins (Alexia and Alfred) were born, They were the largest benefactors for umbrella, cause they wanted to discovers way in which they could help humanity.

But i guess context never matters, she must be some smiley bimbo just because "Resident evil is dumb anyways" right?

it's got nothing to do with context, whether the story matter is serious or not is irrelevant, it's to do with the change in times. What was accepted and tolerated 20 years ago, like mini skirt jill, is not now and that's the problem. Too much wokeness has destroyed any resemblance of fun that we as a society indulged in. Now women are being turned into men as a form of 'progressiveness' and women who make a good career out of their beauty and sex appeal are being demonised.

Sadly the betas, cucks and soy induced (who don't even buy the games) are so rampant now that AAA companies are too scared to pander to the crowds that helped made their games a success in the first place in fear of twitter outrage mobs and npc media.
ShadowSplit Mar 31, 2020 @ 3:58am 
Originally posted by Mailus:
She's a trained soldier who highly distrusts umbrella, in the middle of an umbrella made disaster that is devastating her city beyond repair, where thousands of people are losing their life... while she was being ignored by her superior (Chief Irons). She isnt gonna act all kawaii to please a couple of idiots with no criteria.
True. She wouldn't trust anyone. But they did make her way too emotional. She's like RE3 Carlos.
Dicky Doodles Mar 31, 2020 @ 4:10am 
Originally posted by kiteless:
it's got nothing to do with context, whether the story matter is serious or not is irrelevant, it's to do with the change in times. What was accepted and tolerated 20 years ago, like mini skirt jill, is not now and that's the problem. Too much wokeness has destroyed any resemblance of fun that we as a society indulged in. Now women are being turned into men as a form of 'progressiveness' and women who make a good career out of their beauty and sex appeal are being demonised.

Sadly the betas, cucks and soy induced (who don't even buy the games) are so rampant now that AAA companies are too scared to pander to the crowds that helped made their games a success in the first place in fear of twitter outrage mobs and npc media.

I get what you mean, you don't want reality in games, because games should be allowed to be creative, and not a 1 to 1 recreation of what we see in the real world, which is rather boring in general... And yes, most female soldiers look like ♥♥♥♥♥, that doesnt necessarily mean Jill has to look like one, we can agree on that, no problem, she's fictional after all.

But i think there is too much conspiranoia in this particular instance. I like more her old looks, and i mean Julia Voth, not because it was pretty or anything, but cause as imentioned, i like consistency within a franchise that keeps acknowledging all of the events that have taken place since the very first title, so having characters get surgery between games will never sit well with me either... But i don't think its because Capcom, a japanese company (did you know japanese are making a Greta Thumberg doll for the purposes you can imagine? They're utterly shameless, often for the worse, like the case im presenting).

Just because western AAA developers pander to NPCs for fear of being cancelled, doesnt mean ALL developers do... I think people are blowing this particular case out of proportion, this isnt the last of us, or zero horizon dawn, or uncharted, or Senua's sacrifice (they were proud of making "an ugly female", precisely to pander, as you say)... This is capcom, and i could swear i´ve provided evidence and context for it NOT being the case for this game. As i said, im the first to spot their nonsense. Jill is more than justified to act the way she does around Umbrella grunts.

And if they keep this face for eternity (which i dont love), i´d be fine as long as they don't change it in the next game. I personally would prefer their artists to make faces from scratch, like they did with Moira Burton, her face isnt based on anyone that exists, and she looks fine.

Also another side problem of getting these russian instagram models is, they dont speak english, so... They scan their faces, but the facial mocap is done by someone else who does speak english... So you get motion captures for faces that don't fit at all, and that's how you get Claire's weird faces when she talks in RE2R.

Again, you're right on what you're saying about AAA developers in general, but i don't see it in this particular instance (said that 3 times, not white knighting or defending sneaky pandering, i legit believe it).

As for the old outfits and what not... I would have sworn they were preorder bonus, and unlockables... Even if they arent... Mods! I plan to get the battlesuit from RE5 as a mod as soon as someone makes it, and hopefully a better face mod, the current "Julia Voth mod" face is still too... unfinished.
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