Why no Julia Voth Jill Valentine anymore? :(

[RubTheDuck]

Maria, My mighty heart is breaking.

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The best answer in this trough:

Originally posted by Night Furious:

Originally posted by Sauce:

So you knew it was her, just didn't recognize the face initially. What's the big problem there? Jill in RE3 remake may be changed, but we all know who she is in the trailer regardless of changes.

The problem is that I don't like the constant change of faces of the same character, I would prefer that they stick to one.
You don’t wake up every morning and your face doesn’t change when another time passes and you are you, right? Your relatives will not recognize you because you look like a complete stranger?
I know that maybe it's stupid to discuss in games and give such an example, but this is something that I feel and don't want happens.

[/quote] Its a pretty normal feeling. As in all good storytelling when it is done well you hold the characters, story, and authenticity in high regards because the book, movie, game etc. has moved the audience as it intended to.

Thus reboots/sequels making poor, unnecessary or absurd changes brings ire from people. Authenticity and understanding is the mark of an artist. Making some kind of amalgamation full of "new ideas" is simplistic and requires very little connection with the material and effort.

Quality over quantity. The heart of this argument (and many similar regarding film/story/game/etc) is in personalities whom value authenticity vs those whom simply chase "new."

Ironically those whom chase "new" things never quite create something of worth because they do not value or stick with something long enough to find a deeper meaning. [/quote]

[Nicovahkiin]

We won't know until she or Capcom say something. People jump to the conclusion that it's Capcom's doing. I'm thinking Voth simply couldn't or wouldn't do it for whatever reason. No time to go to Japan, maybe.

[Seb851]

Originally posted by -SoL-YuriBrazilU2:

Originally posted by Leonhart:

You're talking about no need for fighting against patriarchy in old games, but, ironically, Voth is a SJW irl.

Well, even being a SJW, wear Jill Valentine's clothes, eating a sandwich, attending gaming events as Jill Valentine, she was axed by Capcom, that's the biggest irony.

Get a life ....

[RubTheDuck]

Originally posted by Seb851:

Originally posted by -SoL-YuriBrazilU2:

Well, even being a SJW, wear Jill Valentine's clothes, eating a sandwich, attending gaming events as Jill Valentine, she was axed by Capcom, that's the biggest irony.

Get a life ....

Millions of people chimed in to get the producers of the Sonic movie to delay the movie for months and spend a fortune redesigning him.

Stop being an obnoxious child, you certainly need to get a life. You don't have to be here you know.

Edit: Apparently it cost Paramount roughly 5 million dollars to redesign him - it would have been more had the trailer not dropped so early (before much of the vfx were completed), had they done it at a later date the price would have been much higher.

[Bastila Shan]

Originally posted by RubTheDuck:

Originally posted by Seb851:

Get a life ....

Millions of people chimed in to get the producers of the Sonic movie to delay the movie for months and spend a fortune redesigning him.

Stop being an obnoxious child, you certainly need to get a life. You don't have to be here you know.

Edit: Apparently it cost Paramount roughly 5 million dollars to redesign him - it would have been more had the trailer not dropped so early (before much of the vfx were completed), had they done it at a later date the price would have been much higher.

lol if you think julia voth fans will make a difference.

[RubTheDuck]

Originally posted by Hoboslayer:

Originally posted by RubTheDuck:

Millions of people chimed in to get the producers of the Sonic movie to delay the movie for months and spend a fortune redesigning him.

Stop being an obnoxious child, you certainly need to get a life. You don't have to be here you know.

Edit: Apparently it cost Paramount roughly 5 million dollars to redesign him - it would have been more had the trailer not dropped so early (before much of the vfx were completed), had they done it at a later date the price would have been much higher.

lol if you think julia voth fans will make a difference.

Who said I thought that?

[ChainsawCommando]

Because Julia Voth is growing older, Capcom wanted a younger facial capture actress for Jill since this is a prequel and Voth may return for a post-RE5 game.

[Night Furious]

Originally posted by Giant Enemy Crab:

Because Julia Voth is growing older, Capcom wanted a younger facial capture actress for Jill since this is a prequel and Voth may return for a post-RE5 game.

Do you think that the new model looks younger? I don’t know how old this model is, but her face type makes her older. Jill now looks a lot older as adult woman in 30 years which is out of line with the RE3 timeline.
And it’s funny for me to hear disclaimers that the model is older. A simple example of Death Stranding where one of the roles was received by actress Lindsay Wagner, who is already many years old, but she was made to look younger. And they also used the technology of photographs and the realism of 3D modeling people as Capcom is doing now.
So these are empty excuses and stupid arguments that this is an obstacle for Capcom and the age does not matter.

[L0rd_Dusty_]

me and my friend used to call jill door knob nose lady back when we played re5 twas fun but that game was garbo

[Snippets]

Imma just give the game an instant negative Review: #NotMyJill

[Snippets]

Originally posted by cruithne:

voth fans are disgusting incels

it's not about Julia Voth it's about a character being known (to me) for over 15 Years now and mostly looking the same like well, it freaking should be and all of a sudden she looks like the most repetitive, obnoxious, dollar store lara croft trans woman I've ever seen for the past years.

Most importantly: Simply for no (real) reason. If They had a real reason as to why they simply CANNOT use Julia Voth anymore i could live with it, but the fact that they just straight up dont want to,that's just pissing me off. Resident evil is my all time faviourite game series and I simply cannot understand how Capcom treats this legendary franchise like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Anyone claiming they can see the real "Jill" in this beaten up face clearly has no idea what Jill since 2002 acutally looks like.

I could live with Jill at least having those whiteish eyes like she had all along, but bruh even eyes look nothing like the old ones....

[Snippets]

Originally posted by cruithne:

Originally posted by Snippets:

it's not about Julia Voth it's about a character being known (to me) for over 15 Years now and mostly looking the same like well, it freaking should be and all of a sudden she looks like the most repetitive, obnoxious, dollar store lara croft trans woman I've ever seen for the past years.

Most importantly: Simply for no (real) reason. If They had a real reason as to why they simply CANNOT use Julia Voth anymore i could live with it, but the fact that they just straight up dont want to,that's just pissing me off. Resident evil is my all time faviourite game series and I simply cannot understand how Capcom treats this legendary franchise like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Anyone claiming they can see the real "Jill" in this beaten up face clearly has no idea what Jill since 2002 acutally looks like.

I could live with Jill at least having those whiteish eyes like she had all along, but bruh even eyes look nothing like the old ones....

All faces got recasted for new engine, remakes and 7. You're just a рussy who can't accept change. Scream all you want but this is how it should be and will happen again.

Nice discussion bro, really shows how the "change fanboys" think doesnt it? Great example keep up the great work

[Night Furious]

Originally posted by cruithne:

is how it should be and will happen again.

And why are you happy? Do you understand that the constant change of faces and models destroys his character and personality perception for players?
Why should the players in each new part of the series having the same character have to guess who is it and be surprised when they tell you that it is now him? If they don’t tell you who it's now, you don’t even recognize him!
This is annoying and the most stupid decision developers that they can use in their games.
This should work so that one model and a face is assigned to the character throughout all of his appearances, so that when you see him again, you will immediately recognize him by appearance from previous games and not because each time they will give you a new face model and call her the old character name.

When I saw the first trailer for Revelations I thought who this is girl and then a voice said that is Jill Valentine. My reaction was that - Waaat? Are you kidding?This a different person! And now this is happening again.
I don't want this to happen every time. And if you say that they cannot hold one model for a long time, because he is getting older - this is all rubbish. A simple example is Lindsay Wagner who got a role in Death Stranding and who also used the technology of photography and 3D realism of real people, which is now used by Capcom. And they no had problem making her much younger by the age they needed for this character.

Therefore, the point here is no about Julia most, but the fact that they adhere to one appearance for Jill and other characters for a long time and don't change and hire new models every time for each appearance. This is not a plastic surgery the game simulator!!!

[Sauce]

If you really had to guess that was Jill, you didn't do a good job of learning who Jill was in the original. Same applies to the other characters. It is surprising just how many people are worked up about this.

[cruithne]

Originally posted by Snippets:

Great example keep up the great work

thx

Originally posted by Night Furious:

And why are you happy? Do you understand that the constant change of faces and models destroys his character and personality perception for players?

Because it's like a movie adaptation, other faces changed already and the fact that only voth ♥♥♥♥ are рissed at the face change shows that they are just care only for the previous face model existance and nothing more. Pinned comment proves my point. Disgusting.

[Night Furious]

Originally posted by Sauce:

If you really had to guess that was Jill, you didn't do a good job of learning who Jill was in the original. Same applies to the other characters. It is surprising just how many people are worked up about this.

It is about perceiving her face, not other things. If you want to say that you immediately recognized Jill from Revelations based on past games, then I think you are hypocritical and lying.

Originally posted by cruithne:

Because it's like a movie adaptation, other faces changed already and the fact that only voth ♥♥♥♥ are рissed at the face change shows that they are just care only for the previous face model existance and nothing more. Pinned comment proves my point. Disgusting.

This is explained very simply, the players just got used to her and automatically associates a Julia face as Jill, because he was first used as a model for scanning a live face and was used longer in the series as an design character of Jill. And I don't blame them for this!
Perhaps they could get used to another face if they held on for a long time, but this will never happen now, because Capcom was too carried away by the constant replacement of models in every new game for the old character.

Let't see what happen in next RE game!