Saints Row 2

Saints Row 2

Vepar Oct 26, 2023 @ 10:08am
Crashing when entering vehicles.
Is there some tips and tricks to fix this or at least lessen this?
I don't remember it crashing this much last time I played it.
I know it's an old broken game and Volition I'd no more, but still, better ask.
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Uncle Al Oct 26, 2023 @ 6:49pm 
yeah, get the game on xenia and refund this scam version.
:( Oct 26, 2023 @ 9:14pm 
Originally posted by Uncle Al:
yeah, get the game on xenia and refund this scam version.
They can’t, they have 100+ hours.
Vepar Oct 30, 2023 @ 4:26am 
Originally posted by Uncle Al:
yeah, get the game on xenia and refund this scam version.
I already finished the game once, and i think i got it on some major sale, so it's not like i didn't get my money's worth. I was just wondering if there's some stuff i can do about it.

But yeah, i agree, games in this state shouldn't be sold anywhere, and the devs (or whoever has the IP) should be forced by law to fix the product they sell.

It's illegal to sell anything that's broken anywhere, why this is ok for games is beyond me.

Good game though. I'll check out xenia, heard great things about it.
Half-Vampire Oct 30, 2023 @ 11:27pm 
My game stop crashing after i play in Windowed Mode, get Borderless Gaming. So far no crash yet, only when checking the Outfit tab while shopping in a Clothing Stores.

I also checking out Xenia.
Peanut Oil Nov 1, 2023 @ 3:37pm 
For strange reasons this game does not run on every computer. I've tested on my laptop where it had crashes many times that I couldn't make of the causes. Tried with my main desktop and it plays without issue even while running my own trainer for hours.
Vepar Nov 1, 2023 @ 3:45pm 
Still haven't found a fix. I play on linux, so i can't try the borderless gaming thing. There's gamescope, but that won't remove the borders of the window i think.

Sometimes it crashes a lot, sometimes i can play for a while before it crashes, but yeah... It's crashing.

The only crashing fix i actually fixed in this game was when the first Ultor mission kept crashing at random points and wouldn't let me progress. Switching to the easy difficulty did the trick, as it seems the game was spawning way too many roadblocks (there were constant police roadblocks one after another in that mission), so it might have been some sort of memory leak. Game kept spawning roadblocks, but not despawning them causing a crash.
Switching to easy made this go away.

But - for this crash, i have no idea how to fix.

There's a few threads i found, but none of that helps me.

This one suggests either limiting the fps to 30 (no thanks), or removing the nude mod (which i don't have):
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintsRow/comments/yx95kd/saints_row_2_inevitable_crash_when_entering_any/

This one mentions some power tools to adjust timing whatever that is, or windowed mode like Half-Vampire suggested. I'll definitely try windowed mode if i can make it work properly.
https://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/game-sometimes-crashes-when-i-get-in-a-car.3935/

There's some others but nothing too useful.

So it's either 30 FPS (which should theoretically be possible with gamescope, but the game won't start when i limit the FPS to 30) or windowed mode. I'll try windowed mode later.
Vepar Nov 2, 2023 @ 4:32am 
So i did some testing...

I tried using gamescope to make the game borderless. But that made gamescope just do what gamescope does best and that's take about 20 FPS off the game and make the FPS unstable as hell.

Turns out i didn't need it because just making the game not fullscreen (fullscreen: no), doesn't actually make a window border for some reason. At least on Xfce4. Maybe it's different in other environments.

But... That seemed to have done the trick, at least partially. The game seemed much more stable, and i only crashed once in an hour or so.

I was also curious about what that thread said and installed the GOTR nude mod to remove the pixelation. The game then crashed twice in a row immediately when entering a vehicle, but the third time i started it, i was able to play for a while, so it might have been random, but maybe the nude mod does contribute to instability.



Originally posted by lightwo:
Can confirm that other than entering cars, roadblocks seem to make the game crash more often.

For me, the fix was lowering the difficulty so that the game spawns less of them. They don't seem to despawn like other cars i think, that's why it crashes, the game doesn't unload them.

My guess at least, cause having the game spawn less of them was what made it stable.
I'll see how it behaves when i get to that mission again.



Originally posted by lightwo:
Another Linux player here, however I am not playing the native version, the eON port performs even worse than the original port. Using Gentlemen of the Row mod.

So far, I had no problems playing on 60 FPS, but I limited to 30 during cutscenes to avoid desynchronisation, achieved using MangoHUD. The driving animations feel floaty and crappy on 60 FPS, but it's perfectly playable.

I will post my config when I return home.

Also, it seems that Proton 8 eliminates the game speed issue which Powertools fixes, at least in my case I didn't need to change anything. If the game doesn't feel too fast or too slow, you don't need Powertools.

Nice! Linux was about the only platform i was able to play this on lol, on Windows it was unstable even more. I had to install DXVK there anyway to get decent FPS, so this isn't that different. I had to build GOTR and resolution patch on the windows install though, but it's fine after.

I'm using Proton-GE-8.16 or something like that, so yeah, 8 does seem to work. Previous ones didn't at all.

What's the eON port?

And yeah, the cutscenes seem wonky (and audio gets too loud compared to the rest of the game), but i'm fine with it.

The FPS is super unstable constantly though lol, but that's just how it is i guess.

And the game is normal speed, the vehicles handle ok as far as i'm concerned, so yeah, no speed glitches or anything.
Vepar Nov 2, 2023 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by lightwo:
Originally posted by Vepar:
What's the eON port?
The Linux port uses Virtual Programming eON, which uses a badly optimised OpenGL translation layer, impacting performance even worse than the original port on Windows.
Oh right, this game has a linux port, i totally fogot! :O
But yeah, that one never managed to run on my system. It crashed on startup, so i had to use proton.

I wish someone would fix or remake this game, it's a damn shame it's in this state.
But Volition had to do a reboot and die because of it. Nevermind remaking the best game in the series.

Oh what could have been. :(
The least they could do is release the source code.
Half-Vampire Nov 4, 2023 @ 1:25am 
I can understand the frustration. Constant crashes, bad fps drops, no DLC etc.

I currently playing the game via Xenia Canary, and it's a much better experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2pkXEdRb7E
Check this video out, everything you need to know on how to run Saints Row 2 along with it's DLC and even Saints Row 1 is in that video and the description. This dude is a blessing to the Saints Row community every since we lost IdolNinja.

Don't worry about it much, we already bought the game fair and square, a broken one, on Steam. So it's only fair that we get to experience the game in a proper way, right? :PurpleNeon::SirenLove:
Last edited by Half-Vampire; Nov 4, 2023 @ 1:26am
lightwo Nov 4, 2023 @ 2:13am 
Originally posted by Half-Vampire:
I can understand the frustration. Constant crashes, bad fps drops, no DLC etc.

I currently playing the game via Xenia Canary, and it's a much better experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2pkXEdRb7E
Check this video out, everything you need to know on how to run Saints Row 2 along with it's DLC and even Saints Row 1 is in that video and the description. This dude is a blessing to the Saints Row community every since we lost IdolNinja.

Don't worry about it much, we already bought the game fair and square, a broken one, on Steam. So it's only fair that we get to experience the game in a proper way, right? :PurpleNeon::SirenLove:
On Windows, sure, but Xenia on Linux isn't quite there yet from what I tried, sadly.
Vepar Nov 5, 2023 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by Half-Vampire:
I can understand the frustration. Constant crashes, bad fps drops, no DLC etc.

I currently playing the game via Xenia Canary, and it's a much better experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2pkXEdRb7E
Check this video out, everything you need to know on how to run Saints Row 2 along with it's DLC and even Saints Row 1 is in that video and the description. This dude is a blessing to the Saints Row community every since we lost IdolNinja.

Don't worry about it much, we already bought the game fair and square, a broken one, on Steam. So it's only fair that we get to experience the game in a proper way, right? :PurpleNeon::SirenLove:
Yeah, i'm not worried about "stealing" an abandoned game, even if i could buy the real xbox version, the original devs aren't going to get my money from it anyway, they already got all they could from those sales. Now it's just second hand stuff.

But i already finished the game now, so i won't be playing yet again, but on xenia.
Still, when i do want to play again, i'll give xenia a try. By then it will probably get even better.



Originally posted by lightwo:
Originally posted by Half-Vampire:
I can understand the frustration. Constant crashes, bad fps drops, no DLC etc.

I currently playing the game via Xenia Canary, and it's a much better experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2pkXEdRb7E
Check this video out, everything you need to know on how to run Saints Row 2 along with it's DLC and even Saints Row 1 is in that video and the description. This dude is a blessing to the Saints Row community every since we lost IdolNinja.

Don't worry about it much, we already bought the game fair and square, a broken one, on Steam. So it's only fair that we get to experience the game in a proper way, right? :PurpleNeon::SirenLove:
On Windows, sure, but Xenia on Linux isn't quite there yet from what I tried, sadly.
Ah, in that case, when i do want to play again, xenia might be further along on linux. :)
For now, i finished the game, again, won't be playing it any time soon, don't want to overdo it haha.

I have Saints Row the Third Remastered on Epic that i want to play, though, from trying it out, that one also has tons of bugs. Vehicle audio is extremely low, and desynced to your driving and seems unstable a bit, but it's playable, and locking it to 60FPS seems to lessen the vehicle driving audio desync so i'll try it out.
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