Paranoid

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pagio12000 Dec 15, 2023 @ 10:37am
How is the performance?
How is the performance in the final version?Because according to the post's the demo performance was very bad.
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puddingtopf Dec 15, 2023 @ 10:53am 
I haven't played much yet, but it's VERY intensive on the GPU. I tried setting everything to Low and my RTX 2070 Super is still close to 100% with a 60 FPS cap. I know the game is running on UE5, but it doesn't even have any ray tracing features, nor any upsampling methods to improve the performance. There is a "DLSS SR" setting, but I'm not sure what it means. Super resolution? Not what I'm looking for...
It's playable, but sadly rather weak compared to other, better looking-games.
KillerJuan77 Dec 15, 2023 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by puddingtopf:
I haven't played much yet, but it's VERY intensive on the GPU. I tried setting everything to Low and my RTX 2070 Super is still close to 100% with a 60 FPS cap. I know the game is running on UE5, but it doesn't even have any ray tracing features, nor any upsampling methods to improve the performance. There is a "DLSS SR" setting, but I'm not sure what it means. Super resolution? Not what I'm looking for...
It's playable, but sadly rather weak compared to other, better looking-games.

Does it support FSR or XeSS?
Outchaosing Cthulhu Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:31am 
Performance is really bad. There is DLSS but i'm not sure how much it's helping.
Last edited by Outchaosing Cthulhu; Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:31am
Kolisz ⛧ Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:37am 
I haven't downloaded the full game yet but when i've played the demo the issue was caused by directx 12 and adding -dx11 to launch properties fixed the issues with performance (at least for me) I watched some streamers were changing settings (full game) and i didn't saw directx settings in there.
Outchaosing Cthulhu Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:49am 
Originally posted by Kolisz:
I haven't downloaded the full game yet but when i've played the demo the issue was caused by directx 12 and adding -dx11 to launch properties fixed the issues with performance (at least for me) I watched some streamers were changing settings (full game) and i didn't saw directx settings in there.
This actually helps a lot
puddingtopf Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by KillerJuan77:
Does it support FSR or XeSS?
I already told you it doesn't support any upsampling methods...
Turnip Dash Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by puddingtopf:
Originally posted by KillerJuan77:
Does it support FSR or XeSS?
I already told you it doesn't support any upsampling methods...
LoL, what do you think DLSS SR is? Probably upsampling.
puddingtopf Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by That's Mr. Claus:
LoL, what do you think DLSS SR is? Probably upsampling.
Read my damn comments again and you may realize what I meant. Yes, DLSS SR is also an upsampling method, but it's not what I want or need in this game. SR is probably super resolution, which improves image quality at the cost of performance. I wanted the opposite. I thought I didn't have to spell it out again.
Last edited by puddingtopf; Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:35pm
Turnip Dash Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by puddingtopf:
Originally posted by That's Mr. Claus:
LoL, what do you think DLSS SR is? Probably upsampling.
Read my damn comments again and you may realize what I meant. Yes, DLSS SR is also an upsampling method, but it's not what I want or need in this game. SR is probably super resolution, which improves image quality at the cost of performance. I wanted the opposite. I thought I didn't have to spell it out again.

LoL, so angry. I read it just fine. You clearly didn't know what DLSS is and he didn't ask you "what you wanted" he asked you if the AMD and Intel scalings were also available on top of DLSS. You could've just said, "No, just DLSS." Be helpful, not a jerk about it.
puddingtopf Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
Originally posted by That's Mr. Claus:
You clearly didn't know what DLSS is
"DLSS SR" is usually called DLAA. There is a difference between that and the other DLSS functions. FSR and XeSS are also more like DLSS, not DLAA. Seems like *you* didn't know that.
Last edited by puddingtopf; Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:53pm
Apocryphox Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:56pm 
Sigh... And another bad optimized game. What a wonder...
xpgx1 Dec 15, 2023 @ 3:56pm 
"DLSS SR" can mean a lot of things. It's what NVIDIA calls this entire upscaler "tech suite", at least to my knowledge. I'm no expert. I GET this is frustrating, but it keeps coming up. So "DLSS SR" can mean a multitude of things, "DLSS FG" thankfully not. It is what it says on the can, so to speak.

The games menu is super "misleading" or at least confusing, since there is no way to a) choose a specific DLSS profile or "mode" (Auto/Quality/Balanced/Performance), and b) it makes a poor job to inform the player what he has activated - and if this setting is now set or... not. It's needlessly difficult, and juuuuuust needs a bit more polish.

There is SOME upscaling happening, but it's not clear what the toggle actually activates - as there seems to be a flat 50-51% scaling factor. But it doesn't stay at this factor, it switches back to native - if the nvidia dlss dev overlay is a reliable source to see what res is actually used. I am not counting pixels like Digital Foundry =)

This suggests the game uses some form of the auto preset (?) that toggles between OFF/Quality mode, currently. At least on my system (5700X/4070/40GB RAM/Game on SSD).

We'll have to see what MadMind cooks up over the weekend =)

Edit: In terms of performance - it's all over the place. The game feels generally very GPU heavy (for what is presented on screen - subjectively) and has glitches and settings issues constantly. ESPECIALLY the DLSS part is not working correctly, it seems settings are lost between loading screens, especially when testing different settings and repeating this switch in sequence. It feels (again, subjectively) pretty raw and undercooked - as Succubus did.
Last edited by xpgx1; Dec 15, 2023 @ 5:17pm
liffukmi Dec 16, 2023 @ 1:46am 
It is atrocious.
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