What was even the point.....((Spoilers)

[GoreTiger]

...Of having New Eden in this game?


They're so irrelevant and minor to the storyline. I was seriously dissapointed in their involvement. They essentually did nothing.

We're told that the Highwaymen were scared of New Eden and that NE was able to hold their own against them but we don't see any of this. (Not to mention most NE patrols with bows get wiped out by a simple Highwayman patrol packing an MG)

And then finally, We go to search for Joseph, We bring him back, And he's suddenly all fire and brimstone. Talking about waging war on the highwaymen. I thought I was finally going to see some of the old style peggy reaping but..Nope. Again nothing really happens. No missions to help them, No missions where they help you. None of that. They were essentually useless allies.

Their whole involved just felt seriously tacked on. The way the storyline goes, You could leave New Eden out of it completely and the most it would impact the story is you'd have to find a new place to kill the twins at. Other than that, What did New Eden even do?

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Lolzifer:

New Eden ties the game to Far Cry 5, duh. They aren't there to do anything, that's your job.

New Eden sends you to Joseph, where you gain your divine powers and a sidekick and then you defeat their false prophet leader, fulfilling Joseph's prophecy (again).

If you couldn't figure that out, you probably spend too much time sitting on your head.

Yeah, None of that explains it ether.

Prosperity, And all the characters/followers you get from FC5 tie New dawn to FC5. New Eden doesn't tie anything together.

Your "Divine powers" Only help in one situation, When you're handcuffed. Other than that it's all player motive, Not story driven. So again, It was an almost worthless thing regarding the story.

So once again, There was no actual point for Eden to exist. They're so minor to the plot why even include them. It was alot of missed opportunity.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Lolzifer:

You couldn't tie Prosperity and all the other followers to Far Cry 5 without New Eden.

The powers can be used for the whole game once they are acquired, the story part of that simply explains why you have them.

Cry all you want, nothing will change.

Who'se crying? You're acting like my post is a personal attack against you. Sorry your panties got so twisted?

And no, You could tie ALL of them together without new eden. What did NE do for Prosperity? Nothing. What did Joseph do in FC5 to assure the survival of the people who formed Prosperity? Nothing. There is nothing about NE that hints they helped start Prosperity. The only way Prosperity is even remotely linked to the Peggies is the fact that it's built on John's ranch. But that wasn't Joseph just handing it over to them, It was taken from the peggies.

So your reasoning has 0% rationality and You just sound like a salty fanboy right now.

[dkerensky]

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Originally posted by Lolzifer:

You couldn't tie Prosperity and all the other followers to Far Cry 5 without New Eden.

The powers can be used for the whole game once they are acquired, the story part of that simply explains why you have them.

Cry all you want, nothing will change.

Who'se crying? You're acting like my post is a personal attack against you. Sorry your panties got so twisted?

And no, You could tie ALL of them together without new eden. What did NE do for Prosperity? Nothing. What did Joseph do in FC5 to assure the survival of the people who formed Prosperity? Nothing. There is nothing about NE that hints they helped start Prosperity. The only way Prosperity is even remotely linked to the Peggies is the fact that it's built on John's ranch. But that wasn't Joseph just handing it over to them, It was taken from the peggies.

So your reasoning has 0% rationality and You just sound like a salty fanboy right now.

Just sticking my nose into this topic with some input.

Prosperity would be founded by the deputy's people (Rye family and the rest) given what we learn in the intro, and also from the campaign in FC5. Which is consistent with the fact you likely take the fort/property from John Seed during the dismantling of his dominion. So the Prosperity gig wouldnt really be linked to peggies but rather to the deputy's faction imo.

As for the impact of new eden in the gameplay:
We get a final boss from the faction, and some perks that have gameplay impact (definitively easier fights when activating them).

Would we really want more impact is the question.
Giving npcs and factions more impact, or agency, in the game would diminish the players own agency since this would mean the npcs can wrap the game up without the player.
That makes for a tedious game I believe, or at least would make us wonder what they needed us for.

Conclusion: its better to have the npcs be near useless and unable to effect a decisive outcome of the game on their own, thus needing a protagonist (us) to hold their hands.
The trick to make it believable is to mask the uselessness of the npcs enough that we dont see through it in every instance, that would shatter the immersion in the game (any game really).

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by dkerensky:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Who'se crying? You're acting like my post is a personal attack against you. Sorry your panties got so twisted?

And no, You could tie ALL of them together without new eden. What did NE do for Prosperity? Nothing. What did Joseph do in FC5 to assure the survival of the people who formed Prosperity? Nothing. There is nothing about NE that hints they helped start Prosperity. The only way Prosperity is even remotely linked to the Peggies is the fact that it's built on John's ranch. But that wasn't Joseph just handing it over to them, It was taken from the peggies.

So your reasoning has 0% rationality and You just sound like a salty fanboy right now.

Just sticking my nose into this topic with some input.

Prosperity would be founded by the deputy's people (Rye family and the rest) given what we learn in the intro, and also from the campaign in FC5. Which is consistent with the fact you likely take the fort/property from John Seed during the dismantling of his dominion. So the Prosperity gig wouldnt really be linked to peggies but rather to the deputy's faction imo.

As for the impact of new eden in the gameplay:
We get a final boss from the faction, and some perks that have gameplay impact (definitively easier fights when activating them).

Would we really want more impact is the question.
Giving npcs and factions more impact, or agency, in the game would diminish the players own agency since this would mean the npcs can wrap the game up without the player.
That makes for a tedious game I believe, or at least would make us wonder what they needed us for.

Conclusion: its better to have the npcs be near useless and unable to effect a decisive outcome of the game on their own, thus needing a protagonist (us) to hold their hands.
The trick to make it believable is to mask the uselessness of the npcs enough that we dont see through it in every instance, that would shatter the immersion in the game (any game really).

Yeah, Prosperity from what I heard the npc's talking abut, Was founded by Kim Rye after nick & Kim's property got raided & Nick got taken away. After that the survivors just kind of banded together around it.


The biggest issue I have with New Eden being in the storyline is the fact that they just feel so dis-attached.

I mean, Put the perks you get from them aside and the one final boss fight and, What's their involvement? Almost nothing. They impact the story in almost no way. Like I said before if you removed New Eden entirely from the story, The most it would impact is the Captain needing to break out of hand cuffs & You'd need to find a new place to kill the twins.
It just disapointed me how Joseph talks them up so much, Goes on a rant about them going to war, Then names you Edens next leader, And then NOTHING really happens from them after that.
They could of thrown in Something to make Eden's involvement a little more concrete. Like maybe the ability to call in "Chosen" Fighters to help assault elite outposts with you after Joseph returns, Or maybe a ramp up of Peggy vs highwayman activity. But no, There was nothing. Just a speech from joseph, You get a new followerer, Then New Eden gets burnt to the ground.
It all just felt so anti-climactic and dis-attached from the main storyline. It feels tacked on instead of the Peggies being a major faction in the county.

Originally posted by Lolzifer:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

And no, You could tie ALL of them together without new eden. What did NE do for Prosperity?

New Eden has been fighting the Highwaymen since they showed up, if your head wasn't full of your own feces you would have heard that part of the story.

What did Joseph do in FC5 to assure the survival of the people who formed Prosperity?

The Bliss is the reason Hope County survives the Apocalypse. If the Deputy hadn't screwed everything up in FC5 New Eden would be militarya powerhouse with unstoppable Angels on the front line followed up by an army of Blissed out gunmen, all supported by an infinite supply of food.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

There is nothing about NE that hints they helped start Prosperity.

Prosperity would be over run eventually, they can't handle the first wave direct assault from The Highwaymen without having you crawl to New Eden for help, exactly as the story tells you.

If you can't follow the plot as it's laid out for you by the writers and the gameplay then you can't be helped. All your diaper wetting isn't going to change the facts.

What's your point about them fighting the Highwaymen? Prosperity did too.
And no, You're wrong. The Survivors who'd form Prosperity were fighting the Highwaymen first. NE were just the only ones who could actually stand up to the H'M at the time thanks to their magical fruit. So again, NE had nothing to do with the founding of Prosperity. Maybe you should get your head out of your own feces and learn the game you're so blindly fanboying over.

How the hell did the bliss save Hope county? Quote how it did. Because the only place the Bliss is even left in hope county is in the North. The bliss didn't do anything for hope county.
And Joseph's preperations still did nothing for the Survivors of Prosperity because those Survivors weren't peggies, And therefore didn't fall under Joseph's protection. And as we see from New Dawn, New Eden doesn't just openly accept people and the Prosperity Survivors don't trust NE, So Joseph's preperations benefited nobody but himself, Not anyone from Prosperity. So once again, You're wrong.


You're extremely ignorant. If you paid attention to the plot you keep ranting about, You'd know that NE has been pushed all the way back to their compound by the Highwaymen as well. Prosperity was left alone to exist because Mickey & Lou wanted to squeeze the people for supplies and living fees, Not because of anything NE did. They even state this, Which is why Mickey & Lou don't attack Prosperity until after the people there start to rebel.


So that's three strikes little fanboy. How about you take off your ubigoggles and see the flaws in the storyline like the rest of us?

[RamsesIICP]

Well you get to put an end to Joseph after he watches you kill yet another of his family members. Seems worth it.

Of course it was worth it to whack him and watch him lay on the ground crying for god even before you could actually kill him too.

[forward_observer]

Personally, I didn't much care for the story line nor the ending of the first game to start with. However, a big complaint from reviewers and many players about the first game was that the developers would interject the story and drag the player kicking and screaming away right in the middle of whatever mission they were involved in--to have to listen to and deal with one of the Seed clan.

I know the abrupt way the story was forced on me at the worst times pissed me off to no end and it felt really stupid to be powerless to avoid the catch and release machinations of the Seeds at any inconvenient time in the game.

Well, it appears that somebody listened since with the new game one can gather resources, capture settlements, play side missions, hunt, or just enjoy the sand box nature of the game without having to fool with the story much at all. In other words the game doesn't constantly interject the story right in the middle of rampaging around the map like the first game did. One can pretty much play 85 to 90% of the sand box part of the game without fooling with the main story line.

Right now I'm having fun challenging myself by retaking level 3 settlements without being discovered--using only the compound bow and a few up close take downs. Having completed
the game a couple of times before, I am simply ignoring the story now just for the sand box
nature..

Cheers

[MTL5]

The pink flowers are connected to the Bliss. Remember that when you were having visions in Far Cry 5, you saw a tree with white flowers. In Far Cry 5, the Bliss flowers were white. But in New Dawn, there is a real physical tree with pink flowers, and strange pink flowers have been spreading throughout Hope County.

In Far Cry New Dawn, Joseph comes to the realization that he is not the Shepherd. He hands that authority over to you because you're the rightful leader. And in a sense, Prosperity becomes the true New Eden. This is the story of Far Cry New Dawn. The Twins are relatively incidental.

There's a slight darkness to the ending, IMO, that reminds me of Far Cry: Instincts. (The animal abilities are very similar also.) The Captain has superhuman abilities. If they want something, they can physically get it. They're an excellent protector, but they have immense power, and that kind of power can corrupt.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by Bootysoft:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

How the hell did the bliss save Hope county? Quote how it did.

In Far Cry 5 Bliss was being put in all the water, in all the animals, it was being sprayed on all the crops, the wolves, the moose, the cougars etc were all getting super powered.
When the damn broke Bliss was flushed throughout Hope County. The mutated animals you find throughout New Dawn are a result of the Bliss. You don't see obvious mutations but that's the reason the residence of Hope County are survivors seventeen years after the apocalypse.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Because the only place the Bliss is even left in hope county is in the North.

Wrong. The Bliss is obvioulsy present in Prosperity when you first sit down to talk to Kim and Carmina.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

And Joseph's preparations still did nothing for the Survivors of Prosperity because those Survivors weren't peggies, And therefore didn't fall under Joseph's protection.

So? What is your hang up about Prosperity? It's your job as the protagonist of the story to deal with Prosperity, why are you hung up about Joseph and New Eden doing anything for them?

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

And as we see from New Dawn, New Eden doesn't just openly accept people and the Prosperity Survivors don't trust NE, So Joseph's preperations benefited nobody but himself, Not anyone from Prosperity.

If the Deputy hadn't screwed everything up for Joseph in Far Cry 5 all the New Eden crew would have been in heavy duty concrete bunkers, the damn would have not been destroyed, any roaming survivors would have been dragged into Eden's Gate to become nearly unstoppable Angels or been brainwashed and trained by Jacob to fight mercilessly, there would only be New Eden, they would have been much better off with the preparations they were making if Deputy hadn't interfered.
As it stands some of Eden's Gate's people survived the Apocalypse, enough that they have a compound and they have patrols all over the place to disrupt and challenge The HIghwaymen.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

You're extremely ignorant. If you paid attention to the plot you keep ranting about, You'd know that NE has been pushed all the way back to their compound by the Highwaymen as well.

New Eden is run by Ethan because Joseph saw that he was not the leader, he foresaw that the Captain will come to replace him as the story clearly tells you. I never made any claim that New Eden was some super army spreading through the wasteland but they are the Resistance.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Prosperity was left alone to exist because Mickey & Lou wanted to squeeze the people for supplies and living fees, Not because of anything NE did.

Prosperity was burned to the ground by highwaymen in the intro movie and they had to rebuild, they had to surround themselves with a wall, they send Carmina out for help because they know they can't survive a siege. Hell they don't even have any crops growing when you move in. They don't have enough Ethanol to fly their chopper, they have nobody working on vehicles, they don't even have a gunsmith, none of the 'Specialists' free roaming Hope County think there's enough value in the place to move in and help them out.

The Highwaymen kidnapped people like Nick Rye. They were not just leaving Prosperity alone. They control all the outposts by force and violence and all those outposts are resources being stolen from the people in Prosperity.

You are taking Lou and Mickey's word for things? Damn, you dumb.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

So that's three strikes little fanboy.

Your score keeping, along with your ability to follow a story sucks.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

How about you take off your ubigoggles and see the flaws in the storyline like the rest of us?

You all have your heads up your rear ends and I ain't going there.

That makes absolutely no sense with the bliss. You claim the Bliss was flushed all over Hope county, And yet it's remnants can only be encountered in certain areas. There is nothing to suggest Bliss is the reason for the Animals and plant life to be like they are now. All you're doing is headcanon'ing it. Not to mention the Deputy destroys most of the Bliss that was stored around the county. You don't encounter the bliss in the water, You don't encounter bliss infected animals or Plant life. And the bliss has 0% reasoning for the Survivors to be there 17 years later. Radiation did not wipe out all plant life/animals in the world, Which is evident from the expeditions you take.
In short, Bliss had 0% to do with anything, And you have no actual evidence to support it besides " This is what I want to believe.."


Again, No evidence of bliss involvement.


What's my hang up about prosperity? My "hang up" Is that you rescue Joseph to form an alliance between Prosperity and New Eden and then it was so boringly anti climactic how NE did absolutely nothing. You're the one trying to claim Prosperity wouldn't exist without NE, Which was utter Horse crap.

You're wrong in thinking that EVERYONE would of been part of NE if the deputy hadn't interfered. As we plainly see in FC5, Not everyone just rolled over and bowed to NE. Others were putting up resistance against them. Whether they were winning or losing is redundant. If the deputy had never showed up, Joseph wouldn't of Approved the Reaping at the time he did, And depending on the time frame of when the bombs drop, It's very Possible the nukes could of come before Joseph even gave the go ahead for the Peggies to invade the county. It's a bunch of "what ifs" at this point but you're ignorant to suggest everyone would just be a part of NE.


You suggested that Prosperity wouldn't exist without NE because NE were fighting the Highwayman. I brought up what I did to remind you that not only are NE NOT the only ones fighting, But they've been pushed back too.


I'm not taking Mickey & Lou's words directly, I'm taking the evidence from their highwayman and their previous actions. How they kidnap people and set them to work, How they set up toll booths to squeeze people out of their goods. How they leave notes talking about letting the "rabbits" leave so they can continue to milk them. Prosperity exists because Mickey & Lou wanted to subjegate them eventually. You're dumb if you don't realize this.


So, Once again, You've been wrong about everything you've stated. So I say once again, Take off your Ubigoggles and your Butthurt fanboy attitude and open your eyes.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by museve:

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

You claim the Bliss was flushed all over Hope county, And yet it's remnants can only be encountered in certain areas.

There's a stretch of river in New Dawn at least a mile long that is so polluted with Bliss it will kill you if you don't burn out the fumes with the sacred fires.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

There is nothing to suggest Bliss is the reason for the Animals and plant life to be like they are now.

Really? Explain why are there super bullet proof animals that glow the same color as your Wrath Power?

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Not to mention the Deputy destroys most of the Bliss that was stored around the county. You don't encounter the bliss in the water.

The whole Henbane River was polluted with Bliss in Far Cry 5, Deputy didn't destroy the river. Deputy never dealt with the water behind the dam. Deputy never cleared the tanks at the water treatment plant. Deputy did not flush the Bliss from every water line running from the treatment plant to every tap in Hope County. Not all of the Bliss containers where destroyed.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

You don't encounter bliss infected animals

Yes you do. Where are the super mutant animals coming from? Radiation? Radiation don't work like that, this isn't Fallout.

or Plant life.

Uh, yeah you do, there's a very special Apple tree so infused with Bliss it gives you super powers and turns the unclean into ten foot tall monsters.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

And the bliss has 0% reasoning for the Survivors to be there 17 years later.

Kim gives birth and both her and the baby survive three nuclear explosions within line of sight.
Must have been Jesus what saved them.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Radiation did not wipe out all plant life/animals in the world, Which is evident from the expeditions you take.

Whole world isn't a nuclear target, that's not how radiation or nuclear war works. Plants and animals can survive radiation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-11345935

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/060418-chernobyl-wildlife-thirty-year-anniversary-science/

If you go too far in an Expedition you get radiation zone warnings indicating that going further is lethal. You can see the same kind of situation via warning signs along the roads and among the farms of modern day Belarus 414KM from the Chernobyl disaster.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

In short, Bliss had 0% to do with anything, And you have no actual evidence to support it besides " This is what I want to believe..

It's right there in the plot of the story, go play the game again, watch the first dinner chat with Carmina and Kim you'll see the Bliss stars floating around the room. When you rescue Rush he tells you how the New Eden people are doped up on Bliss. When you interact with random people in the open world they tell you about the Bliss. When you take the mile long trip up the river to Joseph there's so much Bliss it can kill. There is so much Bliss left stored in Joseph's statue that it will kill you and then when you light it up the Bliss gas powers an 'eternal flame' the size of a house. Then you meet Joseph and you get even more of it right in the guts and it makes you a god.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

My "hang up" Is that you rescue Joseph

Stop right there. You don't rescue Joseph. Dude is in self imposed exile staying away from New Eden while protecting the source of the concentrated Bliss while waiting for the Captain. Joseph has the most valuable real estate on the map with a super power granting fruit tree protected by a river of chemical death and you call it a rescue?

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

to form an alliance between Prosperity and New Eden and then it was so boringly anti climactic how NE did absolutely nothing.

How many times does it have to be repeated to you? NE chosen wander the wasteland battling highwaymen, you can fight along side them for endless hours. Prosperity/wandering people don't even like or trust the New Eden people, and remain hostile toward them, they regularly talk about that fact.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

You're the one trying to claim Prosperity wouldn't exist without NE, Which was utter Horse crap.

There would be no survivors in Hope County without the Bliss, the Bliss was already in all the people in the county by the end of Far Cry 5 on account of the fog, the water, and the food. Nobody was prepared to run to their bunkers, they were still drinking at the bar and eating testicles instead of preparing for the Apocalypse.

Go find even one single note in Far Cry 5 that says "Did you hear the news? The President has been sent to a secure bunker! We better get into our safe space ASAP!" You won't.
Even as the Radio tells you nukes have been launched nobody in Hope County says "Head for the hills!" Nope, they are still at the bar, they still wander the side of the road, or hang out at the apple orchard or pumpkin farm.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

You're wrong in thinking that EVERYONE would of been part of NE if the deputy hadn't interfered. As we plainly see in FC5, Not everyone just rolled over and bowed to NE. Others were putting up resistance against them.

Until the Deputy clears Dutch's island all of Hope County is shrouded in Bliss fog, everyone would succumb, they couldn't even fight their way through the fog. Dutch and Jeffries both tell you that the Deputy is the reason people join the resistance. Eli probably has a similar speech. Everywhere else on the map is abandoned, shuddered, and the people have been kidnapped, killed or have left the county.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

Whether they were winning or losing is redundant. If the deputy had never showed up,

Whitehorse would still be Sheriff, the warrant for Joseph Seed would still have been issued.
Whitehorse would have failed to take Joseph Seed because of chopper crash. Joseph would start the reaping. The Sheriff, Pratt, Hudson and the Marshall would have all been overcome by the Peggies and brainwashed with Bliss as the story clearly illustrates.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

but you're ignorant to suggest everyone would just be a part of NE.

You just lack logic, if Eden's Gate hadn't been disrupted they would have had an unstoppable Blissed out army to kidnap and Blissify smoke choked survivors after the bombs dropped.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

You suggested that Prosperity wouldn't exist without NE because NE were fighting the Highwayman. I brought up what I did to remind you that not only are NE NOT the only ones fighting, But they've been pushed back too.

New Eden still has Joseph, they have the Bliss and The Chosen. Prosperity has like six people when you show up, and half of them are children.
Go ahead and see for yourself, play the part where Highwaymen attack Prosperity, don't defend Prosperity and see if they can finish the fight themselves. Walk the roads and see how many regular Apocalypse Joe's can take on Highwaymen without your help.

Originally posted by GoreTiger:

I'm not taking Mickey & Lou's words directly, I'm taking the evidence from their highwayman and their previous actions.

Highwaymen are 100% completely after the fact of the Bliss.

Notice how I said CERTAIN areas? I guess reading is hard.
It also makes no sense why the North is the most heavily polluted with bliss, Considering faith's region was the most affected by it and the only trace of it left is under the old statue.


Radiation and Mutations can explain why the Animals are as strong as they are alot better than the bliss. The Bliss didn't do anything. Quit trying to push this BS.

Who says the Resistance didn't flush the tanks at the water treatment plant? The waters not infected there in New dawn. The only water sources polluted by the Bliss was the Hendaine. And even it's not polluted in New Dawn. Only the North.
And the Deputy destroys most of the Bliss supplies. A few barrels saved here and there don't equate to enough for what you're trying to claim it does.


Again, Mutation through Radiation explains the Animals more than Bliss does. None of the animals in New dawn behave like the Animals that were actually on Bliss in FC5, And even the Animals actually on bliss in FC5 were as strong as the animals you encounter. The Judges werent as strong, The Bears weren't as strong, The only one close to being as strong as that is the Teleporting Cougar you fight.
And you can't pull the "this isn't fallout" card, Far cry is FAR from the most realistic game, And it's very possible they are pulling the Fallout card.


What is this nonsense you keep dribbling? The bliss didn't save anyone. You're trying to pass it off that the only reason ppl survived in Hope county is because of the bliss when the Bliss didn't do jack. How did the bliss save kim?How did the Bliss save nick? How did the bliss save any of them? It didn't. End of story.


Finally, You agree with me. Plants and Animals can survive Radiation, WITHOUT needing Bliss. Which goes back to my Original point that the Bliss didn't save anyone, or anything in hope county.


So put that nonsense to bed. The bliss didn't do anything. The bliss is an afterthought. The bliss didn't save anyone, And there is 0% evidence of it other than "this is what I want to believe".
Quit whining about it.


You do rescue Joseph. You rescue Joseph from his own self Loathing. You rescue him from neverending questioning himself. You rescue him from his constant doubts. Because before you found him, He was in turmoil about whether or not he followed gods plan like intended, He was in turmoil about his son, And he was in turmoil about the future of New eden. But all that changes when you show up.

How many times do I have to repeat myself? My point about it being anti-climactic is that NOTHING CHANGES after Joseph sounds the war cry. The same New Eden patrols are there, NE doesn't actually help with anything story wise. There is nothing out of them. They could of thrown in a scene where You're attacking something and NE shows up to help, Or done what I said and made it where you could call in Chosen assault teams to help you storm an outpost, And it would of made them feel like they were genually helping. But you get none of that. Just Josephs big speech and then NE burns to the ground. Big whoop.
Also most of those NE Patrols are useless. 99% of them get gunned down by the first Highwayman patrol with an MG mounted.

Are you stupid? Go talk to grace, Go talk to kim, Go talk to nick, Go talk to a bunch of survivors in New Dawn and they TELL you about taking shelter in their bunkers. The Bliss didn't save anyone. This is just Giant headcanon you're making up to push your bliss BS. You're also forgetting that the majority of residents in Hope County were Preppers. Who had food stored away long before the bliss ever showed up. So again, The bliss had 0% to do with Hope countys survival. And you have no evidence of it other than what you want to believe.


The rest of your post is just filled with ignorant rambling about the Bliss, So I'm not even going to bother responding to the rest at this point. I've already made it clear how much you've been wrong and how delusional you are regarding the bliss. Like I said, You have 0% evidence other than what you want to believe. The bliss didn't do anything. Simple as that.

[LeftPaw]

The story is absolutely diabolical and is the one big black mark on the game. It would be so much better without any story at all rather than this f******g rubbish.

[dkerensky]

Originally posted by museve:

Originally posted by Odyssey:

The story is absolutely diabolical and is the one big black mark on the game. It would be so much better without any story at all rather than this f******g rubbish.

Zero level private account with 10 avatar aliases, what kind of scam are you running?
Do you pirate all your games?

When you set account to private it also displays level 0.
As you have done, so lets ask:
What is your game, stirring up a useless discussion for no other apparent reason than increasing your postcount and displaying an admittedly awesome ability to post longwinded walloftext that really ought to have TL;DR at the top to save us from falling asleep?

[DivineLion]

they just wanna live in peace.

[LeftPaw]

Originally posted by museve:

Originally posted by dkerensky:

Some bull

Who asked you? If you aren't interested in reading, then take a walk.

Originally posted by museve:

Originally posted by Odyssey:

The story is absolutely diabolical and is the one big black mark on the game. It would be so much better without any story at all rather than this f******g rubbish.

Zero level private account with 10 avatar aliases, what kind of scam are you running?
Do you pirate all your games?

Oh here we go. Yet another self proclaimed lord of the internet. Here, you are nothing but a avatar and silly nick, what makes a difference is weather you are nice or a complete poo-head.

Ever heard of U-play on your travels?

[GoreTiger]

At least others are seeing how big of a joke this guy was. I didn't even bother reading his last response, I'm sure it was filled with the same garbage he's already posted.

[Trentscousin]

Originally posted by RamsesIICP:

Well you get to put an end to Joseph after he watches you kill yet another of his family members. Seems worth it.

Of course it was worth it to whack him and watch him lay on the ground crying for god even before you could actually kill him too.

IS THIS TRUE????? I might get this after all........