Farm Irrigation

[Loki McNeil]

Beside my comment about predictable weather patterns, I think the irrigation building might be a unnecessary building. Instead give us a farm field that can be upgraded to include an irrigation pump in it. This eliminates the burdensome dead space often left by the irrigation building that you cannot fill with other buildings without further spreading the farms away from eachother.

The irrigation profession can remain, once you have upgraded the farms, but as a two farm to one settler ratio. This would allow the player to have nice clean 16 by 16 farm plots placed together or encircled by roads, eliminating wasted space.

[Zuluknob]

I don't know why the irrigator has a radius instead of number of tiles it can serve. It just makes things messy.

[trimi]

Why is it that players keep wanting things to make the game easier all the time?
Don't you like challenges?
And making square fields fit into circular irrigation systems is just one of many ways the game challenges it's players.

[Zuluknob]

Originally posted by trimi:

Why is it that players keep wanting things to make the game easier all the time?
Don't you like challenges?
And making square fields fit into circular irrigation systems is just one of many ways the game challenges it's players.

Because that isn't how irrigation works.

[Zuluknob]

The way it is now it is watering non farmland and the underside of buildings.

[Zuluknob]

Just realised trimi doesn't even own the game. Perhaps you should actually play it before passing comment on players concerns/complaints. You might understand then.

[Cloudhunter]

Originally posted by Zuluknob:

Just realised trimi doesn't even own the game. Perhaps you should actually play it before passing comment on players concerns/complaints. You might understand then.

As i understood it, Trimi owns the gog version.
nevertheless, you can irrigate square areas, too. Water drop irrigation in hot areas work that way. In short, its just a pipe, with some very small holes in it. You can water any form of agriculture with it. Square, round, it does not matter. The way sprinkler works, a lot of water vanishes in very hot surrounding. Thats why you have to use other ways for watering.

Or just water it the old way: flood the area. The plants are in some higher position and take their water from the lower area around them. It always depends on the plants and their water needs.
Irrigation worked that way for a few thousend years. The old civilisations 2000 BC already used channels like that.

[trimi]

Originally posted by Zuluknob:

Because that isn't how irrigation works.

Irrigation works in many ways. And circular irrigation is not unusual at all:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_pivot_irrigation#/media/File:Crops_Kansas_AST_20010624.jpg

Originally posted by Zuluknob:

Just realised trimi doesn't even own the game. Perhaps you should actually play it before passing comment on players concerns/complaints. You might understand then.

I own the game on GOG. I've been playing it since the day it came out. 36 hrs played untill now.

[Loki McNeil]

Originally posted by trimi:

Originally posted by Zuluknob:

Because that isn't how irrigation works.

Irrigation works in many ways. And circular irrigation is not unusual at all:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_pivot_irrigation#/media/File:Crops_Kansas_AST_20010624.jpg

Originally posted by Zuluknob:

Just realised trimi doesn't even own the game. Perhaps you should actually play it before passing comment on players concerns/complaints. You might understand then.

I own the game on GOG. I've been playing it since the day it came out. 36 hrs played untill now.

Then give us circular fields to be placed around the irrigation buildings, which might as well make the field itself come with the irrigation building and thus the need for an upgrade from a field dependent upon rain, to a field which can be irrigated. Thus I am not asking for the game to be made easier, I am simply asking for the game to be more realistic to modern irrigation methods, which conserve water, as a society living on the brink of destruction would conserve water.

[Kohwalter]

Irrigation is only worth to do at nearby forest to keep Herbs and Berries alive during droughts. Not worth building it at your own farm due to radition contamination (bug).

[Cloudhunter]

Originally posted by Caelum:

Irrigation is only worth to do at nearby forest to keep Herbs and Berries alive during droughts. Not worth building it at your own farm due to radition contamination (bug).

Thats not true.
It is the best way to keep the fields alive during a drought.
And the radiation you keep under control with a weather station. You can control the grade of acceptable radiation by choosing it there. In case of radiation protection covers are put on the fields, keeping radiation away.

https://ibb.co/rHrKHWt
(picture of weather station)

https://ibb.co/g9vg7SY
(picture of protected field)

But you should not forget to build protection gear for your settlers. I had protection gear for all of them, even a big reserve. But only level 1 gear. Then there was heavily radiated rain and suddenly all my settlers were radiated, because they only had level 1 protection stuff.

[Loki McNeil]

Originally posted by Cloudhunter:

Originally posted by Caelum:

Irrigation is only worth to do at nearby forest to keep Herbs and Berries alive during droughts. Not worth building it at your own farm due to radition contamination (bug).

Thats not true.
It is the best way to keep the fields alive during a drought.
And the radiation you keep under control with a weather station. You can control the grade of acceptable radiation by choosing it there. In case of radiation protection covers are put on the fields, keeping radiation away.

https://ibb.co/rHrKHWt
(picture of weather station)

https://ibb.co/g9vg7SY
(picture of protected field)

But you should not forget to build protection gear for your settlers. I had protection gear for all of them, even a big reserve. But only level 1 gear. Then there was heavily radiated rain and suddenly all my settlers were radiated, because they only had level 1 protection stuff.

That is why I do not use rain catchers until I have coal production and water towers to filter the water. It helps keep the radiation at bay, allowing me to not even use a weather station.