Drinking from rainwater collectors?

[Voice From Beyond]

I have noted that people are taking water from rainwater collectors instead of the nearby water tower. Why are they drinking contaminated water when clean, filtered water is right there?

I thought they were an alternate source of water to fill water towers. Why else have them in the AOE of water towers? I thought they were a backup source of water to fill towers during droughts. If people are going to take water from the collectors, then shouldn't they have a filter option? Why allow contaminated water in collectors at all?

[IndigoFighter]

Originally posted by Voice From Beyond:

Why allow contaminated water in collectors at all?

When you have builded the weather-station, you can decide at which degree of contamination-rain they will be covered (same goes for fields/orchards). I always choose "not contaminated" or "lowest contamination".

[Gentlymad | Kizzle]

Originally posted by beebopper:

If your settlers are drinking from the Rain Collector.. this means there is no water to gain from the other 2 sources... This also includes water that is reserved but still shows that you have water.

When you see people drinking from the Rain Collectors.. you need to increase your Water Gathers or water Sources.. For a more detailed explanation.. check out my 'water explained' guide (sorry shameless plug but I think needed.) :)

As beebopper said. The can drink from Rain Collectors, as this source seems to be the nearest and most convenient (counting in many factors). But if a Tower and a Collector are nearby, they would (or should) never prefer the rain collector. :)

[Voice From Beyond]

Ok, I looked at it again. Water tower has 2800 filtered water, with collecting from rainwater collectors off. I saw 2 people take contaminated water from the rainwater collector right next to the tower.

In this screen shot you can actually see the yellow path line of someone getting water from the rainwater collector.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2216037587

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2216039047

[IndigoFighter]

Originally posted by beebopper:

intigofighter.. clarified this with DEV..skoddy in discord through another discussion last night... 'closest water source' is where they will go to.. in your screenshot.. the rain collector is the closet pathway for the settler to get too.

I've since retested this in a few save games... and can confirm this is now the case since the update or at least appears to be from the update.

Indigofighter has also suggested your better off to place your Rain Collectors the furthest away.. eg.. Jetty --- > Rain Collectors ---- > Watertowers --- > Colony... to avoid contaminated rains being used directly from the Rain Collectors.. This works!


PS:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2216093082

Just one more thing : it´s always the best to have a well nearby your fields / Irrigation-plant, it´s the easiest and savest way for Irrigators to get their needed water form there, always having in mind the well still needs to be the nearest water-resource

[Voice From Beyond]

Originally posted by beebopper:

intigofighter.. clarified this with DEV..skoddy in discord through another discussion last night... 'closest water source' is where they will go to.. in your screenshot.. the rain collector is the closet pathway for the settler to get too.

I've since retested this in a few save games... and can confirm this is now the case since the update or at least appears to be from the update.

Indigofighter has also suggested your better off to place your Rain Collectors the furthest away.. eg.. Jetty --- > Rain Collectors ---- > Watertowers --- > Colony... to avoid contaminated rains being used directly from the Rain Collectors.. This works!


PS:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2216093082

I realize the logic is closest water source, but think it should be closest CLEAN water source first, then other water sources, after all when I get up for a drink at night, I don't drink out of the toilet because it is 2 steps closer than the sink.

[IndigoFighter]

Originally posted by Voice From Beyond:

I realize the logic is closest water source, but think it should be closest CLEAN water source first, then other water sources, after all when I get up for a drink at night, I don't drink out of the toilet because it is 2 steps closer than the sink.

As I posted at the other thread :

Originally posted by =NickFury=:

I still think he should ideally take the longer path if it means getting clean water.

Logic : Yeah, absolutly !!!
Settler : nope
Game : ?

[Gentlymad | Kizzle]

Originally posted by Voice From Beyond:

Originally posted by beebopper:

intigofighter.. clarified this with DEV..skoddy in discord through another discussion last night... 'closest water source' is where they will go to.. in your screenshot.. the rain collector is the closet pathway for the settler to get too.

I've since retested this in a few save games... and can confirm this is now the case since the update or at least appears to be from the update.

Indigofighter has also suggested your better off to place your Rain Collectors the furthest away.. eg.. Jetty --- > Rain Collectors ---- > Watertowers --- > Colony... to avoid contaminated rains being used directly from the Rain Collectors.. This works!


PS:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2216093082

I realize the logic is closest water source, but think it should be closest CLEAN water source first, then other water sources, after all when I get up for a drink at night, I don't drink out of the toilet because it is 2 steps closer than the sink.

True. We will be checking this again, since it already has been discussed in the dev team :)

[Alex Harding]

Looks like they still drink the radioactive water from the collector, eventhough cistern full of clean water is just across the road.

[nemec]

And it's even still happening...

I planned on using the collectors catch any water there might be since I have plenty of coal to clean it up.

[Assemble_Skoddy]

Hey guys,
Thanks for your messages.

As Kizzle said 3 years ago, we will discuss internally in the dev team. This doesn't mean that there are any changes promised. If you want to know if there was anything changed, the best thing is to take a look at the changelogs we posted throughout the development of the game.

Settlers will most likely prefer the closest source of water to drink. You can try to build a watering point, which they should prefer.

Best,
Skoddy

[vimp meat enjoyer]

Save yourself the digging through changelogs. I can confirm this still happens.

[vimp meat enjoyer]

Screenshot of it happening [imgur.com]

This is very unfortunate since I invested in four collectors at one place before I learned about this bug. As you can see from the weather forecast, irradiated rain is all I can collect. The idea was to wait until these fill up and then empty them during droughts to the tower, but settlers keep drinking from the collectors instead of the nearby tower (or the pump filled up with clean water), poisoning themselves and making the whole investment moot.

Since devs are clearly not going to fix this you can either build the collectors far away from your settlement, or view the collectors as a poor investment. I wouldn't rely on the weather forecast either since you rarely get clean rain for safe consumption directly from the catcher.

Ngl this bug is pretty bad.

[pdoan8]

You should have built the rainwater collector within the range of a water tank (preferably filtered).

I have never seen this as a bug since I start playing this game (~2022?). Water carriers are supposed to take this contaminated water to water tank. If you don't have a tank in range to store water, then it would become a water source for either direct consumption or distribute to water point (make no different anyway).

[vimp meat enjoyer]

Originally posted by pdoan8:

You should have built the rainwater collector within the range of a water tank (preferably filtered).

I have never seen this as a bug since I start playing this game (~2022?). Water carriers are supposed to take this contaminated water to water tank. If you don't have a tank in range to store water, then it would become a water source for either direct consumption or distribute to water point (make no different anyway).

You can see the tank on the picture. I will note that the tank is tasked with getting water from elsewhere and not these collectors, however that should not matter as the root of the issue is settlers opting to consume radiated water when a clean source is nearby.

[pdoan8]

Your tank only cover the well. The rainwater collectors are out of range. Its water could end up anywhere, or be consumed directly. You can select your water tank and see what's in its range. The solution is just simply build another tank to cover the four rainwater collectors.

I agree with you that settles should opt for clean water if it is nearby. However, radiation is the theme of the game. You must do whatever it take to remove/reduce the radiation for your settles.

Weather station should reduce radiation in rainwater collector, crop field, lake, .... Water tank can filter the water and provide clean water. These things are not available from the start. So, forcing settles to search clean water could become a problem in early game. That is why I don't think it's a bug.