Yakuza Kiwami 2

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Crashing and Shutting down PC
I'm about 20 hours into the game and recently the game has been crashing and shutting off my PC. I've checked the temps and the all seem fine plus did a stress test on my pc to see if it would crash under full load but it did not shut down the PC at all and temps were fine. I've actually read that this game has also done the same thing to PS4 and Xbox consoles. I have played many other games (AC Valhalla, Arma 3. Jedi Fallen Order) with no issues at all.

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Jouchebag Jan 31, 2021 @ 1:12am 
The PC shutting down is only caused by two possible issues: hardware failure or security fault. The first is obviously something you would have to trace yourself, but isn't as likely if other games run well. The second is usually caused by malware or hardware failure corrupting windows files.

While YK2 isn't causing either of those issues, it could be exacerbating them.
BlahBobLaw Jan 31, 2021 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Jouchebag:
The PC shutting down is only caused by two possible issues: hardware failure or security fault. The first is obviously something you would have to trace yourself, but isn't as likely if other games run well. The second is usually caused by malware or hardware failure corrupting windows files.

While YK2 isn't causing either of those issues, it could be exacerbating them.

On a fresh build with a fresh windows install? If there were operating system errors why wouldn't the other games also have crashes?
BlahBobLaw Jan 31, 2021 @ 11:34am 
I've seen crashes related to FPS caps, but that still does not explain the shut down.
Jouchebag Jan 31, 2021 @ 11:53am 
Originally posted by MeanGreene:
I've seen crashes related to FPS caps, but that still does not explain the shut down.

That's what I mean. Even critical crashes should not take down the PC. Even a severe windows blowout should BSOD, not shut down. And I assume you mean "cut power" not simply shut down. A healthy PC wouldn't even allow a power cut due to all the possible issues that could have, including permanent hardware damage.

It may be a newer issue if you haven't gone back to play the other games recently. It also may be that YK2 is using a specific resource that is corrupt.
TrainedByRambo Jan 31, 2021 @ 12:15pm 
I recently Just replaced my MOBO, CPU and RAM as well as a new copy of Windows 10 Pro, so i would doubt it would be a possible Hardware issue.
megadrivers Jan 31, 2021 @ 8:58pm 
the PSU might be the culprit for your computer shutting down. try running a tough benchmark in another game and see if that brings up the same result.
MancSoulja Jan 31, 2021 @ 9:11pm 
Originally posted by MeanGreene:
Originally posted by Jouchebag:
The PC shutting down is only caused by two possible issues: hardware failure or security fault. The first is obviously something you would have to trace yourself, but isn't as likely if other games run well. The second is usually caused by malware or hardware failure corrupting windows files.

While YK2 isn't causing either of those issues, it could be exacerbating them.

On a fresh build with a fresh windows install? If there were operating system errors why wouldn't the other games also have crashes?

Because different games put different types of load on different hardware. For random shutdowns with no error messages or BSOD's, you should really be looking towards PSU or memory issues.
MancSoulja Jan 31, 2021 @ 9:12pm 
Originally posted by TrainedByRambo:
I recently Just replaced my MOBO, CPU and RAM as well as a new copy of Windows 10 Pro, so i would doubt it would be a possible Hardware issue.

New hardware can be faulty.
BlahBobLaw Jan 31, 2021 @ 11:08pm 
Originally posted by MancSoulja:
Originally posted by TrainedByRambo:
I recently Just replaced my MOBO, CPU and RAM as well as a new copy of Windows 10 Pro, so i would doubt it would be a possible Hardware issue.

New hardware can be faulty.

Yes, and ports of old video games can be buggy...
Jouchebag Feb 1, 2021 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by MeanGreene:
Originally posted by MancSoulja:

New hardware can be faulty.

Yes, and ports of old video games can be buggy...

The Windows operating system and all hardware that you would use to build a modern PC will not allow a power-cut unless there is something critically wrong with hardware or the OS is so frazzled it could cause other issues.

Simply put, no application should cause your PC to cut power. They don't have the ability to do that, either--it would literally have to break through multiple layers of security to get that control. Only the CPU can make the decision to cut power for self-protection reasons. Otherwise, a piece of hardware is causing it.

And YK2 came out in 2017. That's old?




Rambo, don't take it lightly. My advice is to shelve YK2 for a while, play some other demanding stuff for now. Best case scenario, you move on and forget about YK2. Worst case, you find out YK2 wasn't the culprit.
Last edited by Jouchebag; Feb 1, 2021 @ 7:11am
TrainedByRambo Feb 1, 2021 @ 10:20am 
I recently played GTA V online for 1 hour no problem at all, Assassins Creed Vahalla for 2 hours no issues, Spyro Remaster for 3 hours no issues either and Ghost Recon Breakpoint for 2 hours as well and had no issues at all.

I did play YK2 for two hours with no issues whatsoever only thing that I had done was update my BIOS. Also I disabled fullscreen optimizations and capped the framerate to 60 FPS. I really dont wanna have to give up on YK2 and i thing Kiyru and Majima wouldnt want me to either lol !!!!!
Last edited by TrainedByRambo; Feb 1, 2021 @ 10:27am
Jouchebag Feb 1, 2021 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by TrainedByRambo:
I recently played GTA V online for 1 hour no problem at all, Assassins Creed Vahalla for 2 hours no issues, Spyro Remaster for 3 hours no issues either and Ghost Recon Breakpoint for 2 hours as well and had no issues at all.

I did play YK2 for two hours with no issues whatsoever only thing that I had done was update my BIOS. Also I disabled fullscreen optimizations and capped the framerate to 60 FPS. I really dont wanna have to give up on YK2 and i thing Kiyru and Majima wouldnt want me to either lol !!!!!

I feel you. It could be something as simple as updating something and I hope it was.

The thing about games with massively unstable resource usage, like YK2, is they can bring out instability in a PC. My old PC died after 7 years while juggling Fallout 4 (heavy modded) and Agents of Mayhem (aka Agents of Melting CPUs). The early signs of total failure were occasional, seemingly random, BSODs and later on random cutting power.
Myth[Alex] Feb 1, 2021 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by Jouchebag:
A healthy PC wouldn't even allow a power cut due to all the possible issues that could have, including permanent hardware damage.
Can you elaborate on this? Even healthy gamers can suffer :) It's during that moment when the electricity provider cuts the power temporarily for [insert reason here]. How can we protect our PCs during that?!

And what are the symptoms of hardware damage? can you give some common examples?

Here's a weird incident that happened to my PC ~2 years ago: One day, when the power was cut by the provider, once I tried rebooting the system, it simply didn't display anything. You could only hear the strong noise made by the fans / air coolers. I attempted booting it up several times - no use. I thought the GPU died, but thank god it wasn't that. The actual problem was with the motherboard's built-in battery, which had to be replaced. It's very small in size, and round as shape, and a new one costs extremely cheap. I'm still surprised by what happened back then. I didn't know the MOBO's use their own battery. Even less... that they can drain out / expire. Do you think the power cut could have... drained the remaining energy from that battery? or it was going to die anyway, very soon ?
Jouchebag Feb 1, 2021 @ 7:01pm 
Originally posted by MythAlex:
Originally posted by Jouchebag:
A healthy PC wouldn't even allow a power cut due to all the possible issues that could have, including permanent hardware damage.
Can you elaborate on this? Even healthy gamers can suffer :) It's during that moment when the electricity provider cuts the power temporarily for [insert reason here]. How can we protect our PCs during that?!

And what are the symptoms of hardware damage? can you give some common examples?

Here's a weird incident that happened to my PC ~2 years ago: One day, when the power was cut by the provider, once I tried rebooting the system, it simply didn't display anything. You could only hear the strong noise made by the fans / air coolers. I attempted booting it up several times - no use. I thought the GPU died, but thank god it wasn't that. The actual problem was with the motherboard's built-in battery, which had to be replaced. It's very small in size, and round as shape, and a new one costs extremely cheap. I'm still surprised by what happened back then. I didn't know the MOBO's use their own battery. Even less... that they can drain out / expire. Do you think the power cut could have... drained the remaining energy from that battery? or it was going to die anyway, very soon ?

This topic itself is a symptom of hardware damage, though it could be other issues. BSOD's and power cuts are symptoms.

Surge protectors exist for a reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surge_protector

UPS's exist for a reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply

In your case, the only battery that can be replaced on a MOBO is a CMOS battery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonvolatile_BIOS_memory

That battery allows a number of things to remain in memory and it could have a bunch of bad effects if it dies.
Last edited by Jouchebag; Feb 1, 2021 @ 7:34pm
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