Trials of Mana

Trials of Mana

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Irae Apr 5, 2020 @ 10:27am
this game is laughably bad
is there like not quality control at all?
the gameplay itself is not even bad, but good lord the cutscenes are worse than those of many ps2 games
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I "want" to say it was the engine they used, but the more I play this the more I'm reminded of the game sonic boom:RoL's cut scenes and all the "shortcuts" they used because they were rushed, if you watch carefully you can even see character models being reset and warped around in certain cut scenes (Duran meeting the Fairy for one)

(though this games budget is way bigger and is a much better quality than its previous title, I'm almost sure the FF7 remake was SE main focus and thus more effort and assets (workers, ect.) was put aside for it)

though using such an umbrella term as a title when only the animations in cutscenes seems to be the only thing bothering you is basically kicking the hornet's nest
Last edited by Lord Doober De La Goober MXI; Apr 5, 2020 @ 8:56pm
DANIEL RAIN Apr 5, 2020 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by Irae:
is there like not quality control at all?
the gameplay itself is not even bad, but good lord the cutscenes are worse than those of many ps2 games

No not really, the cutscenes are decent.
Last edited by DANIEL RAIN; Apr 5, 2020 @ 6:44pm
Shuichi Niwa Apr 5, 2020 @ 6:15pm 
Why bother with the troll, everyone? I saw him, I clicked report. End of story :'(
Last edited by Shuichi Niwa; Apr 5, 2020 @ 7:51pm
DANIEL RAIN Apr 5, 2020 @ 6:45pm 
Originally posted by Shuichi Niwa:
Who bother with the troll, everyone? I saw him, I clicked report. End of story :'(

???
Juub Apr 5, 2020 @ 7:41pm 
Can't disagree with the poor quality of cutscenes there. Kevin when he destroyed the wall in his castle was done better on the SNES lol.
Shuichi Niwa Apr 5, 2020 @ 7:55pm 
Originally posted by DANIEL RAIN:
Originally posted by Shuichi Niwa:
Who bother with the troll, everyone? I saw him, I clicked report. End of story :'(

???
Deliberately calling something "laughably bad" with only some minor fault where a bunch of people are eagerly waiting for its release is a generic bait pattern...

Plus no capitalization... My troll sensor is having a field day :'(
Yeah, well, that's only like, your opinion man. Subjective opinion is subjective, not fact. Go play Secret of Mana remake then, hater
Shuichi Niwa Apr 5, 2020 @ 8:08pm 
^ see, people get hooked already :(
fuujinroku Apr 5, 2020 @ 8:35pm 
The Mana series were always mediocre. They lucked out with a legit good game in Secret of Mana and then people started acting as if this series were some kind of holy grail in action RPGs.

Trials in particular, thanks to the 3D remake, lost the only thing it had over other RPGs at the time that was its above average sprite work. Story was average, the flow was atrocious and the combat was extremely limited compared to pretty much every Square RPG at the time. The remake then went the other extreme and suddenly everything is action based...

Personally I dislike the cutesy animu characters and without being able to quickly read through dialogue thanks to the way they designed the cutscenes (do we really need to fade to black this much?), it kills my desire to play. In general, I'm disappointed as I hoped that this game could be something to play while in quarantine.

On the plus side, Charlotte not having a squeaky voice was a good surprise. She was one of my favorite RPG characters.
Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:
Yeah, well, that's only like, your opinion man. Subjective opinion is subjective, not fact.

People tend to forget this, ALOT

By the end of the day, if you like a game that someone else dislikes no need to try and "defend" it, either try and understand where they’re coming from or just give zero ♥♥♥♥♥ and move on
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Shuichi Niwa Apr 5, 2020 @ 10:01pm 
Yeah, not like we need other people's approval for our taste anyway =)) Most of my favourite games aren't really well-liked either. That's why they said "to each his own" ~
Irae Apr 5, 2020 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:
Yeah, well, that's only like, your opinion man. Subjective opinion is subjective, not fact. Go play Secret of Mana remake then, hater
not really. there is no subjectivity here. its bad on a technical and artistic level.

for instance, there is no lip sync at all. there are no facial animations. the animations are awful. the voice acting is subpar at best. the level design is extremely simple, literally just straight hallways, etc.

i mean, you can still like it, but there is no denial that it is of poor quality
Last edited by Irae; Apr 5, 2020 @ 10:46pm
Irae Apr 5, 2020 @ 10:45pm 
and i havent even talked about how every female is some titty monster in this game for some reason. i guess i'm not part of the target audience of this game
Justiciar- Apr 5, 2020 @ 11:16pm 
Originally posted by Shuichi Niwa:
Why bother with the troll, everyone? I saw him, I clicked report. End of story :'(
People like you are the reason why games come out like ♥♥♥♥.

There's nothing wrong with criticism on discussion boards. Reporting just to censor stuff you don't like is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pathetic. You're the troll here.

Originally posted by fuujinroku:
Trials in particular, thanks to the 3D remake, lost the only thing it had over other RPGs at the time that was its above average sprite work. Story was average, the flow was atrocious and the combat was extremely limited compared to pretty much every Square RPG at the time. The remake then went the other extreme and suddenly everything is action based...
I think it is more fair to say that a lot more graphical effort went into the SNES version than this 3D version. There was a style that was built up from the games that preceded it.

They kept the style, but didn't refine it fully, imho. They poured some shader fx on it and that was it.
Last edited by Justiciar-; Apr 5, 2020 @ 11:19pm
Shuichi Niwa Apr 5, 2020 @ 11:21pm 
Young people are so energetic, makes me really feel old now...
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