Silver Wing useless?

[dirkonline]

So, unless I add Hacking, Lockpick, Combat, Engineering there is no way to proceed even through Nashville with a character focussed on Conversation etc. Or am I missing something? If I HAVE to pick the same skills all the time choosing a different template at the start becomes kina uselss I feel. Also, with the almost complete removal of the start chapter, ending up at Nashville I am barely L2... while there are still all those enemies around I cannot circumvent.

[Robineus]

Yeah Silver wing should really come with some kind of assistant/bodyguard who is slightly ok at keeping you alive. It's a shame because this is the sort of game which should really thrive on a non combat build, hopefully it will get there.

[xarfaks]

Question.
Did you guys get any bullets for the gun?
When I played as a silver wing I got the gun but no bullets. At the weapons hand out.

[Robineus]

I don't know I tend to play as a high brains and high tech weapon character, you get 48 energy cells for that.

[dirkonline]

Originally posted by xarfaks:

Question.
Did you guys get any bullets for the gun?
When I played as a silver wing I got the gun but no bullets. At the weapons hand out.

I got one clip, that is it. You can find more ammo later though.

[dirkonline]

Originally posted by Robineus:

I don't know I tend to play as a high brains and high tech weapon character, you get 48 energy cells for that.

I hear you, I would love to be able to get through with brains though. I mean I am ALWAYS over encumbered and that is silly, I am not even carrying that much and there does not seem to be a way to increase carrying capacity later on,.

[Robineus]

Originally posted by dirkonline:

Originally posted by Robineus:

I don't know I tend to play as a high brains and high tech weapon character, you get 48 energy cells for that.

I hear you, I would love to be able to get through with brains though. I mean I am ALWAYS over encumbered and that is silly, I am not even carrying that much and there does not seem to be a way to increase carrying capacity later on,.

Yeah I usually dump the luck and psyche stats to 1, doesn't actually seem to affect much and give myself 4 in strength and guts, you can increase encumberance by purchasing backpacks of increasing quality as you go. Right now though there really isn't much point in carrying around crafting materials just concentrate on collecting the high value stuff like relic shards and rare earth.

[dirkonline]

Originally posted by Robineus:

Originally posted by dirkonline:

I hear you, I would love to be able to get through with brains though. I mean I am ALWAYS over encumbered and that is silly, I am not even carrying that much and there does not seem to be a way to increase carrying capacity later on,.

Yeah I usually dump the luck and psyche stats to 1, doesn't actually seem to affect much and give myself 4 in strength and guts, you can increase encumberance by purchasing backpacks of increasing quality as you go. Right now though there really isn't much point in carrying around crafting materials just concentrate on collecting the high value stuff like relic shards and rare earth.

I saw the backpacks early on before the first big patch, now I cannot find any. Do you know where these can be bought currently?

[xarfaks]

After prologue first city.
The nun? What ever the church people. They have a shop in the first city.
The shop keepers inventory is random. So save scumming.... To get that backpack.

[dirkonline]

Originally posted by xarfaks:

After prologue first city.
The nun? What ever the church people. They have a shop in the first city.
The shop keepers inventory is random. So save scumming.... To get that backpack.

I am not even getting past the slum at this point, constanly getting stuck in quests that go no where. Eh maybe I will just wait for a few more patches before I jump back in again. I have visitd about 20 traders at this point and non had packbacks, hence my confusion. Before they were at least available in the Magellan Warehouse shop, alas, no more.

[xarfaks]

It is in the slums.
The nun at the junkjard the only trader in the slums besides the pub.
As I said save scum. Inventory is random. I got it first time around next time to buy one had to load 20 times.

[Robineus]

Yeah I seem to find random traders in the desert who sell them.

[r-cane]

I just got through nashville with a silver. But I had Psionics so I had a chance to fight. And you almost dont need to fight at all.

[dirkonline]

Originally posted by r-cane:

I just got through nashville with a silver. But I had Psionics so I had a chance to fight. And you almost dont need to fight at all.

I had a similar setup, the lack of strength etc just sucks. There is too much emphasis on the physical stats now for many things. Hopefully, mechanics will be changed moving forward to allow for multiple play styles.

[r-cane]

I think it's possible and not much needs to be changed.

Maybe make it possible to take one of the nscs in nashville with you through the base with a speech success. On the other hand I think it's a good sign if you feel like you are missing out on some aspects or areas of the game because of who you are. That creates immersion and replayability.

If you dont make a speech charackter you are maybe missing out some companions and companion quests, or maybe some science stuff that you as a charackter dont understand and therefor cant continue to investigate.

Nobony is a master of everything, and since with the different wings CRONUS is obviously looking for experts on their corresponding field of work that is an issue that has to come up.
Reality is like that to.

The only important thing is that it should be possible for any specialist to finish the game.

IMHO

[Du-Vu]

The trader in the slums seems to change when you leave and reenter the area, which wasn't clear to me at first.