Another could be so good, but held back by unity?

[-=THe M@TRiX=- [DK]]

Is this another unity engine game or did devs come to their senses and switched?

Sad that Wasteland 2+3 for example are held back by this engine to reach their true potential.

I crave for a Fallout 1/2 type RPG, but the Unity madness has got to stop.

I am asking because I will buy this game now if Unity is not involved, otherwise I will skip...

[veryinky]

ATOM RPG is about as close to Fallout 1/2 as you can possibly get without having copyright issues and it was made using Unity 5.

[mm.324]

I agree that I'd like to see games not use Unity. If the devs don't handle it correctly, and most don't, it tries to fry your GPU.

[-=THe M@TRiX=- [DK]]

So this game is using Unity?

[Lemiarty]

Originally posted by veryinky:

ATOM RPG is about as close to Fallout 1/2 as you can possibly get without having copyright issues and it was made using Unity 5.

I second ATOM RPG as a close Fallout alternative. Excellent game, excellent developer support. Trudograd is still early release, but looks good too.

I did not find Wasteland 2/3 to be held back by Unity. I enjoyed both and played through them both multiple times.

InXile uses other game engines for some of their games.

Wonder what their future holds now that they're owed by Microsoft...

[Lemiarty]

Originally posted by -=THe M@TRiX=- DK:

So this game is using Unity?

It does not display the Unity logo like all Unity games do, I have no reason to believe it's built with Unity.

[markelphoenix]

Why the unity witch hunt?

[xarfaks]

Hmmm I actually think it runs on Unity.
Less likely unreal engine but looks like unity to me.

Originally posted by markelphoenix:

Why the unity witch hunt?

If you are an AMD GPU user then there are often issues with Unity.
In general unity often toast the GPU lacks frame limiters.... On AMD as a cherry on top it often crashes display drivers and other fun strange things. This game is no exception. It all started with the new Mechcommander game for me.
Then again Wasteland 3 runs fine and it is also unity. There are games that work as intended.

[markelphoenix]

Originally posted by xarfaks:

Hmmm I actually think it runs on Unity.
Less likely unreal engine but looks like unity to me.

Originally posted by markelphoenix:

Why the unity witch hunt?

If you are an AMD GPU user then there are often issues with Unity.
In general unity often toast the GPU lacks frame limiters.... On AMD as a cherry on top it often crashes display drivers and other fun strange things. This game is no exception. It all started with the new Mechcommander game for me.
Then again Wasteland 3 runs fine and it is also unity. There are games that work as intended.

I am wondering if it's a Unity issue or how the developers handled implementation of their game using Unity issue.

[-=THe M@TRiX=- [DK]]

Originally posted by markelphoenix:

Why the unity witch hunt?

Because 99% of all Unity games looks like they are from 2010 and most suffer from technical issues.

I'm fully aware that graphics alone doesn't make a great game, but lets not make games look 10 years old on release, eh? Just look at Wasteland 2+3 (WL3 is not ugly by any means, it just looks 10 years old and has lots of reported performance issues).

Unity is a great engine for students at university to make prototypes for school projects and get introduced to 3D engines, maybe even indie kids games.

I'm still unsure if this game use it though. Hard skip if it does; buy now if it doesn't.

Edit: The videos from this game looks Unity'ihs thats what got me asking... Hopefully i'm wrong and i'm just seeing things :)

[Lemiarty]

Originally posted by -=THe M@TRiX=- DK:

Originally posted by markelphoenix:

Why the unity witch hunt?

Because 99% of all Unity games looks like they are from 2010 and most suffer from technical issues.

I'm fully aware that graphics alone doesn't make a great game, but lets not make games look 10 years old on release, eh? Just look at Wasteland 2+3 (WL3 is not ugly by any means, it just looks 10 years old and has lots of reported performance issues).

Unity is a great engine for students at university to make prototypes for school projects and get introduced to 3D engines, maybe even indie kids games.

I'm still unsure if this game use it though. Hard skip if it does; buy now if it doesn't.

Edit: The videos from this game looks Unity'ihs thats what got me asking... Hopefully i'm wrong and i'm just seeing things :)

Looking at the install folder, it is most definitely using Unity.

UnityCrashHandler64.exe
UnityPlayer.dll

Right there in the root.

Maybe I don't have an issue with Unity because I don't buy cheap hardware, but not everyone can afford a $700 video card.

[-=THe M@TRiX=- [DK]]

Originally posted by lemiarty:

Originally posted by -=THe M@TRiX=- DK:

Because 99% of all Unity games looks like they are from 2010 and most suffer from technical issues.

I'm fully aware that graphics alone doesn't make a great game, but lets not make games look 10 years old on release, eh? Just look at Wasteland 2+3 (WL3 is not ugly by any means, it just looks 10 years old and has lots of reported performance issues).

Unity is a great engine for students at university to make prototypes for school projects and get introduced to 3D engines, maybe even indie kids games.

I'm still unsure if this game use it though. Hard skip if it does; buy now if it doesn't.

Edit: The videos from this game looks Unity'ihs thats what got me asking... Hopefully i'm wrong and i'm just seeing things :)

Looking at the install folder, it is most definitely using Unity.

UnityCrashHandler64.exe
UnityPlayer.dll

Right there in the root.

Maybe I don't have an issue with Unity because I don't buy cheap hardware, but not everyone can afford a $700 video card.

Sure I have a I7 cpu, RTX 2070, SSD and 16GB RAM - lets use it on a game that looks like it's from 2020 and not to make up for Unity's poor performance that needs this power to run a game that looks like it came straight out of 2010?

Well thanks for confirming my suspicion of Unity at play here. Pass for me then...

[Tam]

I don't believe that Unity is a bad engine. It tends to be first choice for novice game developers due to low up-front costs, and its reputation for frying CPUs & GPUs probably results from inexperienced game developers not knowing what they are doing.

Unity-engine games from competent developers are fine. For example:

Homeworld Deserts of Kharak

[-=THe M@TRiX=- [DK]]

Originally posted by Tam:

I don't believe that Unity is a bad engine. It tends to be first choice for novice game developers due to low up-front costs, and its reputation for frying CPUs & GPUs probably results from inexperienced game developers not knowing what they are doing.

Unity-engine games from competent developers are fine. For example:

Homeworld Deserts of Kharak

You might be right about inexperienced game developers will go for this engine due to low up-front costs - It has for same reason, unfortunately become a red flag if a game utilize Unity. Most of the time Unity games it will look aged and run poorly.

My rule of thumb is to stay away or at least critically towards 99% of games utilizing Unity exactly for this reason.