DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY NT Free Edition

DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY NT Free Edition

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Kirielle Apr 4, 2024 @ 9:39pm
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Dissidia 012 Duodecim Remaster/Remake Please
Seriously, this was the best out of the entire series. I would pay to play this game again.

Been trying to get it to run on emulators on the steamdeck but it just isn't working for me T_T

I miss being able to customize your character's moveset and inputs, and the one-on-one battle system. The fights felt so much more intense there instead of the 3v3 "Let's just dogpile on one character" gameplay that NT eventually boils down to.

One thing that I do love from NT are the Esper/Boss fights, though.

Does anyone else miss 012 Duodecim? Is there any way to get Squeenix to consider remaking/remastering it?
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jchaosmaster Apr 5, 2024 @ 8:49pm 
Originally posted by Kirielle:
Seriously, this was the best out of the entire series. I would pay to play this game again.

Been trying to get it to run on emulators on the steamdeck but it just isn't working for me T_T

I miss being able to customize your character's moveset and inputs, and the one-on-one battle system. The fights felt so much more intense there instead of the 3v3 "Let's just dogpile on one character" gameplay that NT eventually boils down to.

One thing that I do love from NT are the Esper/Boss fights, though.

Does anyone else miss 012 Duodecim? Is there any way to get Squeenix to consider remaking/remastering it?


when you said you are trying to get it to run on Steam Deck and it isn't working are you talking about it not being the same or failure to launch. Because Retro Arch has PPSSPP+ which played my Gundam Vs game fine.

But yea plus i always get annoyed when people talk about Duodecim not selling as well and i roll my eyes. Duodecim was honestly Dissida DLC expansion. I mean 5 new characters and a new side story along with some game play improvements. But i got most the DLC for it back in the day. Honestly i pupped so many hours and i always do agree a remake would be great. I was always kinda Sad we never got a Ps3 port to make online battle easier.
randomgbystander Apr 6, 2024 @ 1:59am 
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I coincidentally was showing a friend Duodecim today, and it is a nightmare compared to NT... Completely unbalanced, and movesets are utter nonsense. Controls are also really bad.
Kirielle Apr 6, 2024 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by jchaosmaster:
Originally posted by Kirielle:
Seriously, this was the best out of the entire series. I would pay to play this game again.

Been trying to get it to run on emulators on the steamdeck but it just isn't working for me T_T

I miss being able to customize your character's moveset and inputs, and the one-on-one battle system. The fights felt so much more intense there instead of the 3v3 "Let's just dogpile on one character" gameplay that NT eventually boils down to.

One thing that I do love from NT are the Esper/Boss fights, though.

Does anyone else miss 012 Duodecim? Is there any way to get Squeenix to consider remaking/remastering it?


when you said you are trying to get it to run on Steam Deck and it isn't working are you talking about it not being the same or failure to launch. Because Retro Arch has PPSSPP+ which played my Gundam Vs game fine.

But yea plus i always get annoyed when people talk about Duodecim not selling as well and i roll my eyes. Duodecim was honestly Dissida DLC expansion. I mean 5 new characters and a new side story along with some game play improvements. But i got most the DLC for it back in the day. Honestly i pupped so many hours and i always do agree a remake would be great. I was always kinda Sad we never got a Ps3 port to make online battle easier.


I got retroarch from steam with the ppsspp core.

On launching Dissidia 012, I'm met with a gray message popup with zero text and what looks like a textless "press ok to continue" prompt.

Then when I try to start a new game, Dissidia 012 just keeps me locked in a white screen until I force-exit the game.

Some forums said I should install the standalone / original retroarch in desktop mode, which I did. Using that version, the grey popup screen now has text, but now it freezes up before I can even get to the main menu.
Kirielle Apr 6, 2024 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by randomgbystander:
I coincidentally was showing a friend Duodecim today, and it is a nightmare compared to NT... Completely unbalanced, and movesets are utter nonsense. Controls are also really bad.

012 may have some unbalanced characters, but it's part of what made it so fun, imho, and I honestly prefer the controls of 012 over NT, mainly because you could customize which prompts execute which moves, to match your playstyle.

And I can't stress enough how having the 3v3 gameplay practically ruins the already-watered-down gameplay of NT because instead of honing your skills for some intense 1v1 battles that show off your character's abilities, it just becomes a dogpile game every time. Just gang up on one target, spam any attacks nonstop and you win.

Seriously would love a 012 remaster with NT graphics. And maybe the boss fights. But keep the 012 control / moveset system
Last edited by Kirielle; Apr 6, 2024 @ 7:22am
mdesaleah Apr 6, 2024 @ 3:51pm 
Fun fact: 012 has a ton of empty DLC slots.

That means modders are able to add their own custom character skins to fill in those slots without replacing any current skins.

And it works online if both players have the mod skin.
Dissidiabr Apr 8, 2024 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by Kirielle:
Just gang up on one target, spam any attacks nonstop and you win.

Not true, speed class often can dodge a 3v1 situation, some character have unique skills to handle hard situations, and shoots have teleport, also you can break a 3v1 with enfeeble sometimes. You just dont know play the game yet, but in competitive matches its really hard hit anyone.
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Kirielle Apr 8, 2024 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by Dissidiabr:
Originally posted by Kirielle:
Just gang up on one target, spam any attacks nonstop and you win.

Not true, speed class often can dodge a 3v1 situation, some character have unique skills to handle hard situations, and shoots have teleport, also you can break a 3v1 with enfeeble sometimes. You just dont know play the game yet, but in competitive matches its really hard hit anyone.

Played it during steam launch for several months. Then periodically revisited it every now and then out of nostalgia. Every single time it's still practically just ganging up on one person to win.

Honestly miss Duodecim 012's gameplay over NT.

Would have been nice if NT had incorporated :
1. A 1v1 mode
2. The customizable/remappable moveset system of 012.
3. Brought back Cosmos and Chaos instead of their... lesser reincarnations.
4. The labyrinth game mode from 012.
Last edited by Kirielle; Apr 8, 2024 @ 6:43pm
Dissidiabr Apr 9, 2024 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by Kirielle:
3. Brought back Cosmos and Chaos instead of their... lesser reincarnations.
4. The labyrinth game mode from 012.

We need years to learn this games, also idk if you played scrims and tournaments, dont remember your nickname. There is a player that joined PSN br community in 2022 and he still have trouble to handle the veterans this game is something that take a lot of time.

The truth is that you dont like team games and PVP thats the issue, 50% of your arguments is about offline things, NT is just not for you. 012 is still playable with textures HD go to a appropriate community.
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Kirielle Apr 9, 2024 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by Dissidiabr:
Originally posted by Kirielle:
3. Brought back Cosmos and Chaos instead of their... lesser reincarnations.
4. The labyrinth game mode from 012.

We need years to learn this games, also idk if you played scrims and tournaments, dont remember your nickname. There is a player that joined PSN br community in 2022 and he still have trouble to handle the veterans this game is something that take a lot of time.

The truth is that you dont like team games and PVP thats the issue, 50% of your arguments is about offline things, NT is just not for you. 012 is still playable with textures HD go to a appropriate community.

Nah, I can enjoy team and pvp games like LoL, Siege and a bunch of others. I didn't participate in big tournaments, since there were none held in my country, but back in the PSP era, I used to meet up with friends and other local dissidia 012 enthusiasts for some player-hosted tournaments. Those made for some really fun and intense showdowns. Had some really great fights back then, especially whenever I met a fellow Tifa main. It almost always felt like a DBZ fight with all of the feints and teleports. XD

I really just miss the PSP versions, and wished that Squeenix would consider remastering them. The core gameplay of Dissidia was focused on intense 1v1 battles, but with NT, they just took that gameplay, stripped down the customizability of the character playstyles and then turned it into a 3v3, and for some like me, it just felt like a miss.

It's just saddening the NT changed a lot of the core gameplay that didn't resonate well with a lot of old players, myself among them. Even more saddening is that with how NT ended up, it doesn't seem likely that a new dissidia game would ever be developed anytime soon.

So yeah, in a sense you're right. NT was not for old fans like me, and I'm just sad that NT, seems to have become the nail in the coffin for the Dissidia series. Don't mind me. I'm just hit with a bout of depression over a game series that I really loved and still miss very much, I guess.
Last edited by Kirielle; Apr 9, 2024 @ 7:07am
Dissidiabr Apr 9, 2024 @ 11:30am 
Originally posted by Kirielle:
Nah, I can enjoy team and pvp games like LoL, Siege and a bunch of others.

Even on LoL most of the customization is status effect, activable items is like any ex skill NT offers and baron/dragon souls is the same principle than summon/core

Originally posted by Kirielle:
I used to meet up with friends and other local dissidia 012 enthusiasts for some player-hosted tournaments. Those made for some really fun and intense showdowns. Had some really great fights back then, especially whenever I met a fellow Tifa main. It almost always felt like a DBZ fight with all of the feints and teleports. XD

Try playing in a 012 community online and see if you continue with that opinion, 012 psp era most of the players did not know how to play properly

Originally posted by Kirielle:
it doesn't seem likely that a new dissidia game would ever be developed anytime soon.

It will be a new dissidia in 2028, just like 2008 for OG and 2018 for NT, remember dissidia is a anniversary franchise, and not made for $$$ purpose

Originally posted by Kirielle:
So yeah, in a sense you're right. NT was not for old fans like me, and I'm just sad that NT, seems to have become the nail in the coffin for the Dissidia series.

A lot of player from 012 enjoy NT, but most of them are competitive players from the 012 epoch, and that's why they play NT.
Last edited by Dissidiabr; Apr 9, 2024 @ 11:31am
Dissidiabr Apr 9, 2024 @ 11:36am 
I brought several new players last year to play 012, and most of them dropped the game after experiencing its competitive side, unlike NT where, despite being for 6 people and requiring a super expensive console, it's much easier to find online lobbies, even though everyone says it's a flop (I can hardly find 3 players of 012 in my country currently to play).

I agree that the game is great for single-player and offline, but NT is precisely what fixes many of the online issues of 012.
Kirielle Apr 9, 2024 @ 7:03pm 
Originally posted by Dissidiabr:
Even on LoL most of the customization is status effect, activable items is like any ex skill NT offers and baron/dragon souls is the same principle than summon/core

That's the thing though. They sacrificed letting you customize the character's moves with buff/debuff spells. If I had to pick between that or letting characters have alternative movesets that players could mix and match, I'd prefer the latter.


Originally posted by Dissidiabr:

Try playing in a 012 community online and see if you continue with that opinion, 012 psp era most of the players did not know how to play properly

If only I could. Like I said earlier in the thread, I've tried emulating the game on steamdeck but have not had much success. Right now I'm still trying to figure out why the game just gets stuck on a white screen if I try to get past the main menu, and if there's a workaround for it. I found one guide that seems promising, but it didn't work. Going to try again later.

Originally posted by Dissidiabr:

It will be a new dissidia in 2028, just like 2008 for OG and 2018 for NT, remember dissidia is a anniversary franchise, and not made for $$$ purpose

In that case, I certainly hope they do make a new one, and that it would at least allow for a 1v1 format aside from 3v3. Same with the customizable movesets.

Originally posted by Dissidiabr:

A lot of player from 012 enjoy NT, but most of them are competitive players from the 012 epoch, and that's why they play NT.

Good for them. As for me, I just come back to NT every now and then because it's got remnants of a game I thoroughly enjoyed back then. Some of the changes/new stuff I actually liked, such as the graphics, the revised summon mechanics, and the boss fights. But some of the other changes I really just can't get behind, such as the stripped down non-customizeable movesets (and the buff/debuff/heal spells that replaced them), the 3v3-only format, etc.

Bottom line of my posting in here is just that I really miss 012, have a lot of mixed feelings about NT since it's Steam release and wished that Squeenix would consider a remaster of 012.
alumlovescake Apr 20, 2024 @ 12:28pm 
Games like these don't need remakes they just need new instalments
The whole point is to see your favourite characters together in the game in a consistent style. When it going to be missing tons of characters it kinda takes away from the appeal.
nubi Apr 20, 2024 @ 7:11pm 
012 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy better in like every possible way, took me a long time to pick the game up because im not really a FF fan but a friend got me into it and was surprised just how much depth and tech the game had, then i got NT and it was pretty much what i expected the game to be to begin with, its really sad just how shallow NT is compared to 012.
Kirielle Apr 21, 2024 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by nubi:
012 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy better in like every possible way, took me a long time to pick the game up because im not really a FF fan but a friend got me into it and was surprised just how much depth and tech the game had, then i got NT and it was pretty much what i expected the game to be to begin with, its really sad just how shallow NT is compared to 012.

Seriously.

I was finally able to figure out how to emulate Dissidia 012 on my steamdeck and after playing it again and then looking at NT once more, it just makes me all the more upset at how much of a stripdown that NT's combat system feels by comparison.
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