Feminist Hates Game! Read All About It!

[Furry Wrecking Crew]

I was really enjoying this game, I thought it was a great JRPG, and then I read what one feminist thought:

https://mashable.com/article/octopath-traveler-review-sexist/

Now I am ashamed at what I have done to women by playing this game. We all need to repent.

[Zangato]

Can you summarize whats that article about, im not a reader.

[Furry Wrecking Crew]

"Octopath Traveler might be purposefully retro in its aesthetic and gameplay, but the game's most backward quality of all is by far the blatant misogyny.

The pixelated art style of this new beloved JRPG looks positively modern in comparison to how it unnecessarily sexualizes, infantilizes, patronizes, and exploits the abuse of nearly every one of its women characters."

Those are the introduction paragraphs. Use your imagination from there.

[Zangato]

Originally posted by Vigi React:

"Octopath Traveler might be purposefully retro in its aesthetic and gameplay, but the game's most backward quality of all is by far the blatant misogyny.

The pixelated art style of this new beloved JRPG looks positively modern in comparison to how it unnecessarily sexualizes, infantilizes, patronizes, and exploits the abuse of nearly every one of its women characters."

Well i dont pay big attentions to those things. Compare to GTA and other games this game is saint.

[LockDown]

Such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Good Lord.

[Burdpal]

I disagreed with some of the writer's talking points, but overall this was a pretty good article honestly.

Primrose's story was very strange to me, personally. Why would she maintain permanence with her Dancer profession after being freed from her master in Chapter 1? Doesn't it seem like she would do away with her capture's teachings and do with some other martial profession to better the image of House Azelheart? I was hoping for a character transformation akin to Final Fantasy 4's main character where the primary protagonist Cecil becomes a Paladin after learning to defeat his demons as a Dark Knight. Something relevant to this metamorphosis would've proven more service to Primrose's overall character in my honest opinion.

Her motivations for continuing her ploys of revenge don't seem too powerful either: it doesn't seem like she earns anything worthwhile after killing each Crow one by one. Her ending was utterly atrocious too - she herself lacks the charge of directions toward her life after Simeon's murder. The only light I could see was Jan being a love interest, but he's very briefly mentioned.

Overall though I liked Ophelia's, Tressa's and H'annit's stories. Ophelia capitalized on sisterly love and being true to the past-images of the ones you loved, and I really understood that on a personal level. Tressa's story, admittedly, made me cry at the end of Chapter 4: her being able to convince the Wyndham's that Crossford's Diary is valuable was extremely heartfelt, and concluded her definition of what real treasure was (friendship and experience). H'annit's story was pretty great to experience firsthand - it seemed like her whole journey involved her taking a serious role in the rescue of her master who has questionable decision-making skills by fighting divine-like beasts like Dragon and Ghisarma, while concluding her story by literally saving an entire desert town. It was empowering and heartfelt to see the masses and the King of Marsalim praise her integrity and strength, promising a feast when she returns with Z'aanta.

Octopath's story isn't perfect, and Primrose's story I think is the weakest of the 8. But, I think it is taking it a bit far to say all the women in the game were subjugated and vulnerable based on sexist stigmata.

[Furry Wrecking Crew]

Originally posted by Burd!:

I disagreed with some of the writer's talking points, but overall this was a pretty good article honestly.

Primrose's story was very strange to me, personally. Why would she maintain permanence with her Dancer profession after being freed from her master in Chapter 1? Doesn't it seem like she would do away with her capture's teachings and do with some other martial profession to better the image of House Azelheart? I was hoping for a character transformation akin to Final Fantasy 4's main character where the primary protagonist Cecil becomes a Paladin after learning to defeat his demons as a Dark Knight. Something relevant to this metamorphosis would've proven more service to Primrose's overall character in my honest opinion.

Her motivations for continuing her ploys of revenge don't seem too powerful either: it doesn't seem like she earns anything worthwhile after killing each Crow one by one. Her ending was utterly atrocious too - she herself lacks the charge of directions toward her life after Simeon's murder. The only light I could see was Jan being a love interest, but he's very briefly mentioned.

Overall though I liked Ophelia's, Tressa's and H'annit's stories. Ophelia capitalized on sisterly love and being true to the past-images of the ones you loved, and I really understood that on a personal level. Tressa's story, admittedly, made me cry at the end of Chapter 4: her being able to convince the Wyndham's that Crossford's Diary is valuable was extremely heartfelt, and concluded her definition of what real treasure was (friendship and experience). H'annit's story was pretty great to experience firsthand - it seemed like her whole journey involved her taking a serious role in the rescue of her master who has questionable decision-making skills by fighting divine-like beasts like Dragon and Ghisarma, while concluding her story by literally saving an entire desert town. It was empowering and heartfelt to see the masses and the King of Marsalim praise her integrity and strength, promising a feast when she returns with Z'aanta.

Octopath's story isn't perfect, and Primrose's story I think is the weakest of the 8. But, I think it is taking it a bit far to say all the women in the game were subjugated and vulnerable based on sexist stigmata.

I hear what you're saying, and I agree with Primrose about remaining a dancer (and also, couldn't she have kept an eye on the brothel, and you know, NOT work there!)

The article, however, was written poorly. The swearing and valley girl stuff like "rly" came off as incredibly juvenile (Prim didn't talk like that, and if she did, it was in a mocking fashion.) I felt this person probably doesn't like or play JRPGS at all, so bias was obvious. Think about it this way: When she played Valkyrie Profile, did she ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan about the male protagonists not being strong characters like the women? Of course not. The problem with political nutjobs like this is they have no perspective. They can never be self-aware enough to think, "Maybe I'm being prejudiced, let me look at it from a directly opposing viewpoint."

[Izzy]

Originally posted by Burd!:

Primrose's story was very strange to me, personally. Why would she maintain permanence with her Dancer profession after being freed from her master in Chapter 1? Doesn't it seem like she would do away with her capture's teachings and do with some other martial profession to better the image of House Azelheart?

Being a dancer is what she wanted to do before her fathers death. It isn't an inherently sexual activity. She was taking advantage of her interests to infiltrate her prior "masters" organization in order to find the man that killed her father.

People will complain about the most benign things so it is hard to take any such criticisms seriously. Either way it is a fictional story so I can't imagine how this is controversial to begin with.

[Suguru]

You gotta ask dumb ♥♥♥♥♥ feminist one simple question - SO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ WHAT? And go on with your life. These dumb ♥♥♥♥♥ will always whine about something.