Interesting turn about this game.

[Kilroy5150]

They completely remade the map and that's made it a little more interesting but i'm getting killed SO often (let me clarify here. Random, falling through the 2nd floor at the barn and dying killed) and having inventory missing so much, I've barely had time to experience many of the other parts of the game so i'll just ask. And i'm asking because i'm putting the game down until they fix all the bugs:

The "human" AIs, are they still on near "Robocop" level of shooting or is it more of a random experience? Before, when they were in the ranger station towers, they could land a shot at 200+ yards with ease. Is it more realistic now?

I've seen wolves, chickens, and some other animal i can't identify. Are bears still around and what new species, other than fish, are in the game?

Also, the "haunted" barn, has anyone else been there? You know, where you get close and hear someone walking back and forth but you get up to the 2nd level and there's no one there but you still hear footsteps? I found that one kinda interesting :)

I find the weirdest part of the game being, when you fall, an invisible force robs you of 1/2 of your best inventory. Am i the only person who thinks that's a bit harsh and wonders if it would be better that the game "mark" who stole it and gave you the chance to get it back?

I mean, wouldn't that make a little more sense and be more worthwhile?

I dunno, this is just stuff running through my brain about this game. I've had it for some time and the earlier versions of it ranged from easy to really unbelievable.

[LudwigVH]

The human AI's don't shoot nothing right now.

There is deer, boars, baby boars, bears and bear cubs still exist.

Haunted Barn, never heard of it, from the previous update?

When you die, are you hitting revive or quit? If you select revive, random stuff in your backpack will be lost. Always best to select quit and load back in at your last save.

[Kilroy5150]

If you lookout of the main entrance to the barn on the hill (close to where you start) and go NW from there you run into a barn (close to a small township) that has a couple of chickens and a big green fog in it. When you get close, you start hearing footsteps. I was stripping the town of supplies, house by house, when i noticed it from the entrance of the church on the edge of the township.

Yeah, saves were something i learned a LONG time ago back when AD&D first started porting turn-based games over to computers. I just think the revive is too harsh. And who are these aliens (with stealth cloaks) who is stealing your stuff or is it just the wind doing it? I mean, i just like a video game to make sense to "some" degree (i.e. you died from being burned alive BECAUSE you stood on a campfire, ect). That whole "you lose stuff when you die" never sat well with me in the first place because it had no logic behind it. I like being given, at least once chance, to go and get my stuff if i drop it or it's stolen.

[LudwigVH]

Originally posted by Kilroy5150:

If you lookout of the main entrance to the barn on the hill (close to where you start) and go NW from there you run into a barn (close to a small township) that has a couple of chickens and a big green fog in it. When you get close, you start hearing footsteps. I was stripping the town of supplies, house by house, when i noticed it from the entrance of the church on the edge of the township.

Yeah, saves were something i learned a LONG time ago back when AD&D first started porting turn-based games over to computers. I just think the revive is too harsh. And who are these aliens (with stealth cloaks) who is stealing your stuff or is it just the wind doing it? I mean, i just like a video game to make sense to "some" degree (i.e. you died from being burned alive BECAUSE you stood on a campfire, ect). That whole "you lose stuff when you die" never sat well with me in the first place because it had no logic behind it. I like being given, at least once chance, to go and get my stuff if i drop it or it's stolen.

Ah you are talking about the barn near the community. Those footsteps you are hearing belong to bandits. They come from the Cave Camp on the hill above the community. They walk through that area.

[Kilroy5150]

Wow, heavy feet. So those random shots i keep hearing, that's them? I mean, i saw you said they didn't shoot....so, who's causing those "booms"?

Oh, i just figured out what the "thumping" noise was. It's that hive monster, in the barn, that just sits there.

I also ran into the "woot, woot, woot" zombie....kinda weird. Still wondering what causes the random "boom"(s) in the game.

[LudwigVH]

Originally posted by Kilroy5150:

Wow, heavy feet. So those random shots i keep hearing, that's them? I mean, i saw you said they didn't shoot....so, who's causing those "booms"?

Oh, i just figured out what the "thumping" noise was. It's that hive monster, in the barn, that just sits there.

I also ran into the "woot, woot, woot" zombie....kinda weird. Still wondering what causes the random "boom"(s) in the game.

The NPC's we rescue don't shoot but the bandits do. The Seeker Nest "Hive Monster" you are hearing it's heart beat.

Wooot woot zombie? The thing with claws sticking from it's head? That would be a Seeker.

The random booms are car crashes. If you go to the crash site, you rescue a survivor. They give a reward, ranging from garbage to really good. After receiving the reward you have an opportunity to trade with them. FYI, trading disappears after x amount of game days, not sure what the magic number is or it's glitch.

[Kilroy5150]

Wow, thanks. I've not been able to find any wiki on the "new" version of this game and i personally "hate" Youtube videos (where they waste time playing rather than getting to the point of the title).

How good are the bandits? Do you have to use Rambo tactics to take them out or is it like FPS where you've got a relative 50/50 chance of getting hit and killed or getting hit and somewhat wounded? As you can see, I've not gotten far out of my comfort zone of the middle hills and township. Man, the seeker is TOUGH. After 16 hits, with a machete, it was still coming.

The seeker nest, how do you kill it? I chopped on it and nothing happened. I feel weird asking but it's SO easy to die in this game that i spend more time on loading save games than playing, lol. Generally, i tend to survive a long time. I can go 100s of days on 7 days to die and never bite the dust but this game is so twitchy and you take more damage jumping off hills that other things.

I've never worked on a wiki but i would be willing to put a little time in it if it would serve to help players out.

[Kilroy5150]

Hey guy, you're pretty well knowing on this game. How do you upgrade weapons as in adding parts?

[Geauxboy]

Shoot the seekers in the face with a few shotgun blast. Melee on them and on any enemy is virtually worthless.

The seeker nest can only be destroyed by a molotov cocktail.

The bandits can be quite accurate, but they are very predictable. position yourself within viewing range, but of course far enough away so that they don't see you and observe their patterns. After you have that somewhat figured out, take a shot at one of them and then observe their patterns while they are running from spot to spot and taking shots at you. Then you will have a much better understanding of how to beat them.

[Geauxboy]

Originally posted by Kilroy5150:

Hey guy, you're pretty well knowing on this game. How do you upgrade weapons as in adding parts?

Put the gun(s) AND attachments in your inventory. NOT in the hotbar. Then right click on the gun and select Modify. Click on each area of the gun to see what attachments go where. Any gun that does not have the Modify option are not yet able to be modified.

[SirCuddlesWorth]

To be honest, I went back to the old map/game. I found it way more enjoyable than this current mess. Yeah I have had those issues as well. Since I did I haven't fallen through the map, or randomly died and the NPC helpers rarely glitch out and they shoot the zambies. Plus the building are better, the houses you can assign rooms to the npcs and there is no obstructions in your way.

[Kilroy5150]

Originally posted by SirCuddlesWorth:

To be honest, I went back to the old map/game. I found it way more enjoyable than this current mess. Yeah I have had those issues as well.

I feel stupid on this new game, i don't even know how to make the car run after i put everything in and gas it. Before, there was an ignition button.

[SirCuddlesWorth]

Originally posted by Kilroy5150:

Originally posted by SirCuddlesWorth:

To be honest, I went back to the old map/game. I found it way more enjoyable than this current mess. Yeah I have had those issues as well.

I feel stupid on this new game, i don't even know how to make the car run after i put everything in and gas it. Before, there was an ignition button.

After you put the Engine, Battery, Spark Plugs, + 4 Tires you get in and press E to start it. May be a different key for others, I can't remember if I changed it or not lol.

[Kilroy5150]

Originally posted by Geauxboy:

Originally posted by Kilroy5150:

Hey guy, you're pretty well knowing on this game. How do you upgrade weapons as in adding parts?

Put the gun(s) AND attachments in your inventory. NOT in the hotbar. Then right click on the gun and select Modify. Click on each area of the gun to see what attachments go where. Any gun that does not have the Modify option are not yet able to be modified.

Yeah, the new game really needs to be shored up. I can't even put the Dragunov in my hands, it will only sit in the inventory. Personally, and this is just me, i think the enemies are a bit too powerful. I could kill the old ones with spears with a well placed shot. I think they need to set levels to where you can play back on the old level. I miss some of the elements of the old game. It had a decent map.

Can you save and enlist AIs anymore and has anyone seen any animals to tame and how do you tame them? I hate to be "the guy asking all the questions" but this game is very different from the old one.

[Geauxboy]

Originally posted by Kilroy5150:

Originally posted by Geauxboy:

Put the gun(s) AND attachments in your inventory. NOT in the hotbar. Then right click on the gun and select Modify. Click on each area of the gun to see what attachments go where. Any gun that does not have the Modify option are not yet able to be modified.

Yeah, the new game really needs to be shored up. I can't even put the Dragunov in my hands, it will only sit in the inventory. Personally, and this is just me, i think the enemies are a bit too powerful. I could kill the old ones with spears with a well placed shot. I think they need to set levels to where you can play back on the old level. I miss some of the elements of the old game. It had a decent map.

Can you save and enlist AIs anymore and has anyone seen any animals to tame and how do you tame them? I hate to be "the guy asking all the questions" but this game is very different from the old one.

Welp, that goes to prove that you are cheating cause if you have the Dragunov, then you are cheating. Not that there's anything wrong with that in a single player game. Cheat to your heart's delight. The Dragunov and the other sniper rifle, along with other various goodies are not implemented in the game and therefore unable to be used.

There are 3 NPCs and a dog that you can rescue, but in all honesty, except for the compass, molotov cocktails and copper wire, they are useless and only get in the way. The dog can be used to kill bandits and infected at least.

If you are referring to the message about taming animals, that isn't in the game yet.

[Kilroy5150]

Originally posted by Geauxboy:

Originally posted by Kilroy5150:

Yeah, the new game really needs to be shored up. I can't even put the Dragunov in my hands, it will only sit in the inventory. Personally, and this is just me, i think the enemies are a bit too powerful. I could kill the old ones with spears with a well placed shot. I think they need to set levels to where you can play back on the old level. I miss some of the elements of the old game. It had a decent map.

Can you save and enlist AIs anymore and has anyone seen any animals to tame and how do you tame them? I hate to be "the guy asking all the questions" but this game is very different from the old one.

Welp, that goes to prove that you are cheating cause if you have the Dragunov, then you are cheating. Not that there's anything wrong with that in a single player game. Cheat to your heart's delight. The Dragunov and the other sniper rifle, along with other various goodies are not implemented in the game and therefore unable to be used.

There are 3 NPCs and a dog that you can rescue, but in all honesty, except for the compass, molotov cocktails and copper wire, they are useless and only get in the way. The dog can be used to kill bandits and infected at least.

If you are referring to the message about taming animals, that isn't in the game yet.

More like sampling than cheating, this isn't an official play. I'm just trying to figure out what all the game can and can't do, the Dragunov is one can't. I have one official save i've not changed but i decided to start a new game to just feel it out to see what i am and am not missing. I'll go back to my original game, which the game is...well...in all honesty "cheating" me where i fall through floors and die, lose inventory that i shouldn't after a save, ect.