Grappling hook bandage is no longer possible with the update.

[schan478]

Please do not lose the Grappling hook bandage ..
It's the last resort for solo players to survive from zarg.

[Zothen]

the zarg is here to stay
the zarg is core audience

[NIIN]

what is a zorg

[ToxicGrenadier]

Nope.

[PainGravy]

Grappling hook heal exploits are small fish compared to the other problems this game has.

[Isilith]

This problem is still there, you can still heal while grappled and now we got another problem via the new vitamin that you can keep drinking that gives infinite attribute points.

[Scar]

As a solo I disagree it makes it easier for them to zerg us

[schan478]

Originally posted by Flamekeeper:

As a solo I disagree it makes it easier for them to zerg us

Why does it make it easier to zaeg?
On the zerg side, it's easy to use a bandage without using a grappling hook bandage. but the solo player side is not.
So I think "grappling hook+bandages" benefit more to solo players.

[times05]

No grapple bandage is better overall, because it creates somewhat of a chase mechanic. You can keep following someone and as long as you don't let them bandage (follow them closely) you should be able to eventually chase them down, or chase them away so that your boat can get distance and get away. Hence less griefing in a form of one dude showing up to your base/walker and then swinging around it for hours on end trying to isolate and harass.

I'm saying this because it diminishes ability of attacker, not so much of defender. Solo or zerg whatever, it's ability of attacker to attack and harass that got diminished.

BTW common tactic used by zergs, to keep ships in combat until the rest of the zerg shows up and catches you, 1 person keeps you engaged by swinging around your ship and grapple bandaging, while 30 more are on their way to you. With grapple bandage you can do nothing, you can hit them and damage while moving away, they telegraph your location while bandaging and hanging on. Without grapple bandage you will eventually shake them off. So it does help smaller groups to defend.

[schan478]

I think there are cases like you say.
but My concern is when a solo player is attacked by a large number of people.
And in that case, it is not the chasing side.
This is the side where I want to use the grappling hook bandage.

For example, solo player encounters a group of five at the place where he makes a hardmap tablet.
Solo players may be able to escape if there was a grappling hook bandage.
In this case, the ability of the defender is reduced due to the disappearance of the grappling hook bandage.
The attacker is not the only one to weaken.

In other words, the ability of the person who wants to use the bandage while escaping is reduced.
And I think it is the solo player side that needs it.

[Xaton]

thats why you escape first to point they cant find you aka lost in trees blend in with evironment then bandage. if they are able to spot you through crap tone of trees as your fleeing they possibly hacking.

[times05]

Originally posted by schan478:

I think there are cases like you say.
but My concern is when a solo player is attacked by a large number of people.
And in that case, it is not the chasing side.
This is the side where I want to use the grappling hook bandage.

For example, solo player encounters a group of five at the place where he makes a hardmap tablet.
Solo players may be able to escape if there was a grappling hook bandage.
In this case, the ability of the defender is reduced due to the disappearance of the grappling hook bandage.
The attacker is not the only one to weaken.

In other words, the ability of the person who wants to use the bandage while escaping is reduced.
And I think it is the solo player side that needs it.

It affects both sides equally, the outnumbered and the outnumbering sides. I personally prefer finality to a fight. One side wins or loses. Grapple bandaging stretches that out to sometimes hours, just as you get someone low they grapple and 20 seconds later grapple back in with full health, this circle repeats for hours. It's pretty annoying.

Defending side (with or without number superiority) does get advantage from not being able to grapple bandage though, if they have an island of safety somewhere (be that base behind a door, or on top of walker with scatters, or next to friendly rupus, where they can stand and bandage in peace momentarily).

[schan478]

Originally posted by times05:

Originally posted by schan478:

I think there are cases like you say.
but My concern is when a solo player is attacked by a large number of people.
And in that case, it is not the chasing side.
This is the side where I want to use the grappling hook bandage.

For example, solo player encounters a group of five at the place where he makes a hardmap tablet.
Solo players may be able to escape if there was a grappling hook bandage.
In this case, the ability of the defender is reduced due to the disappearance of the grappling hook bandage.
The attacker is not the only one to weaken.

In other words, the ability of the person who wants to use the bandage while escaping is reduced.
And I think it is the solo player side that needs it.

It affects both sides equally, the outnumbered and the outnumbering sides. I personally prefer finality to a fight. One side wins or loses. Grapple bandaging stretches that out to sometimes hours, just as you get someone low they grapple and 20 seconds later grapple back in with full health, this circle repeats for hours. It's pretty annoying.

Defending side (with or without number superiority) does get advantage from not being able to grapple bandage though, if they have an island of safety somewhere (be that base behind a door, or on top of walker with scatters, or next to friendly rupus, where they can stand and bandage in peace momentarily).

I understood what you say.
Grapple bandaging takes time to determine the outcome.
yes, I do not intend to deny your opinion about that.
thank you.