Firefly vs Spider for Solo Play

[DJZ]

I suppose this is aimed at moving on to harder areas (currently in the 1st medium oasis you hit after the Cradle) but honestly I'm kinda torn between the two atm, in terms of living out of them basically I haven't bothered with bringing out my Dinghy at all since I've moved since I really don't need it for crafting rn

A Firefly with a balista/campfire on the back and a medium chest in storage actually feels more convenient to me atm than a regular Spider with a campfire/medium chest/random crafting station in storage

Personally what I see as the downside to the Firefly is it's easier to break into without the compact-ness and armored legs of the spider, and less cargo/equipment slots if you're looking at tier two for both. And I suppose the wings but tbh it's pretty small in general and I don't find them that noticeable.

On the other hand the Spider feels more inconvenient having to bring out the campfire, the lack of mountable balista means I can't get the ~20 Fragment harpoon cases (I know there's the balista Spider but without even one "pack structure" slot it feels rather pointless to use for solo). I haven't used the wall climbing much and that thing skids like it's on ice when you're going fast, I dunno how much slower it is than a winged Firefly but it also *feels* annoying slow when you gotta traverse the desert. *But* it is rather compact and unassuming compared to the Firefly, albeit I find the Firefly relatively easy to hide in a corner somewhere as well

[KillingTree]

Spider
- Can climb up vertical walls.
- Can hang on surfaces indefinitely.
- Is capable of wicked tight turns, which lends itself to being able to get away from attacking walkers easily.
- 3 pack slots, useful for PvP or PvE items.

Firefly
- Has a deck.
- Can cram a decent amount of stuff on it.
- Has only one pack slot.


I vote spider almost every time personally.

[MaskedDisciple]

Dingy with small wings and very little weight is pretty good too

[sEver]

You can pack a balista in one of the spider slots though.

Firefly can outrun spider, once you get out of the woods/difficult terrain.
You can walk on the deck of Firefly while having it on cruise control, possibly shooting people who are chasing you.
You can mount a fricking Repeater turret on a Firefly deck.
Firefly is cheaper, so it's easier to make a quality one.

You also don't have to choose one walker, so might play with one or the other depending on mood and/or purpose. Personally I would not use spider for the desert, it's potential is wasted on open plains, it really shines in the canyons/mountains/on rocks though.

[DJZ]

Huh, didn't know about the indefinte hanging though I thought it just kinda slid back down if you didn't get up.

Granted I'm also not certain about the layout of other oasis, like if they all kinda go open desert with small lush pockets or if some are more solid lush or something. I think it's just the map I'm on atm it's basically 4 pockets of green in each corner with a rocky middle area but I *really* hate driving the spider between those pockets, I literally logged on, started driving then ended up going back to the edge, taking my crap out and switching over to my Firefly lol

I do have a small wings upgraded dinghy with guard rails but I'm just worried about bringing that out into more dangerous areas, I'm kinda unsure how hard it is for that to get theoretically wrecked, though I haven't looked at getting the tier two upgrades yet

Stiletto seems like a death wish unless I get the small wings for it but that's a tablet soooo not happening for a bit

[DJZ]

I guess thinking about it more I think this is more of a map issue for me, but if they're all similar to what I'm currently on the spider's really gonna bug me during in between desert sessions

[SinfulBliss]

I use the spider for the hard maps just because of the terrain and its much harder to spot a spider since it has no wings this makes me feel a little safer when im trying to find those fabricators. firefly is my go to on all the other maps because they have much better handling, if you need to walk nonstop long distances the spider will change direction and you have to keep adjusting. my dinghy is for base only and it stays in the lobby until im ready to craft or store important things

[Jimmerzz]

You should be using both. Never have all your loot out. I would use both and then have a digny outside the server in lobby with valuables that are safe.

I would consider using the firefly as a base and the spider as a scout. With the spider that can pack things you can actually pack a bolista and shoot the crate and then bump into it backwards into the wood where it spawns and it will destroy it.

[MindSliver]

I play in a group of 4, we have a taboggan, a stilleto a dinghy, 2 spiders and a firefly or two that we usually end up leaving behind in whatever map they were made in. Spiders are unparalleled in the medium maps! We use them to dip into the deep canyons from the outside and extract up the cliff face without having to run through the channel of doom to get cattails. This leaves little desert to cross and the ability to evade almost any other walker by either climbing into or out of said ravine while everyone else has to go around the long way.

The Firefly may be my favorite for hard maps as even with wings they're extremely low profile and the wings disappear amongst the trees anyways. More importantly it's got a very narrow frame for slipping between trees, no larger walker can keep up with the firefly in the woods and even a spider will be too slow and unarmed, whereas the firefly can have a chest a stove and a ballista all on deck meaning you can outrun anything that's chasing you so long as there's tree cover around and you don't even have to get off your walker to harpoon chests and farm fragments.

Granted if all 4 of us are in we'll usually go with a dinghy or stilleto just for the presence and weaponry. But if we're trying to efficiently farm mats and frags, firefly rocks on hard maps, spider on mediums.

[sEver]

When you think about spider walker, think that it is named that way, because it was actually _designed_ from the ground up to behave like a spider - climb and sit on the walls.

This becomes really obvious, once you add armored legs and it starts looking like a Tarantula.

It cannot be faster on flat ground than a Firefly cause then you wouldn't have that choice - do I want reasonable speed with wings, but no climbing or do I want to sit on the walls, but be slower?

In the end I find myself riding the Firefly more, because it feels like a ship and I can build stuff on deck, so it kinda boils down to what feels better for you.

We participate in Last Oasis for enjoyment, and you will enjoy Spider more if you go for ravines, Firefly more if you go for the desert wreck hunting and/or Nurru.