Did LO get sold to Snail?

[KethTheGodless]

So maybe Im missing something, or maybe this is just a funding thing. But why is the makers of Ark listing LO there portfolio page: https://snail.com/portfolio/last-oasis ?

[TbY]

Might be a good thing. The game has gone to the dogs and I have only experienced about 5% of it.

[Zothen]

Snail the owner of Studio Wildcard who made Ark. Not the "makers".

[Zothen]

Originally posted by TbY:

Might be a good thing. The game has gone to the dogs and I have only experienced about 5% of it.

Snail also owns Grapshot Games who develop Atlas. Did that work out well for the game?
Not exactly! Honestly, seems Snail doesnt give much of a F for some of their aquisitions.

[Ralf Yaknchuk]

Welcome to the group. Don't stop the research on who Snail Games is.
I've been trying to warn people for years about Snail Games and how they make new child companies for every game they make to hide their shame!
They pretend they are just small independent studios and milk the communities for every penny they can.
Abandon the game and create a new company, and a new cookie cutter ARK clone, with a new theme and skins.
Rinse and repeat.
Go check out all their titles they have done/doing this with!
They abuse EA like no other.
This is not good for the gaming community.
As when they finally remove EA from all the abuse.
This will only hurt the true small independent studios that truly need EA to get their games off the ground!
That will be a sad day, As I really like the premise of EA.
All the great games we have received because of EA is fantastic.

[CHR3S]

Originally posted by Ralf Yaknchuk:

Welcome to the group. Don't stop the research on who Snail Games is.
I've been trying to warn people for years about Snail Games and how they make new child companies for every game they make to hide their shame!
They pretend they are just small independent studios and milk the communities for every penny they can.
Abandon the game and create a new company, and a new cookie cutter ARK clone, with a new theme and skins.
Rinse and repeat.
Go check out all their titles they have done/doing this with!
They abuse EA like no other.
This is not good for the gaming community.
As when they finally remove EA from all the abuse.
This will only hurt the true small independent studios that truly need EA to get their games off the ground!
That will be a sad day, As I really like the premise of EA.
All the great games we have received because of EA is fantastic.

This could infact be true for Last Oasis.

There are several incidents for them milking the players. Just gonna say:

- console release (probably because pc sales stalled and they had to get more buyers, so why not milk the console market?)
- microtransactions in an early access game
- They push out seasons in an unreasonable and suspicious manner and they still get away with it.
- Everytime they release an update, it seems that the product is being cut into pieces and some pieces are getting removed.
- And now with Season 5 they turned LO into a PvE game so they can milk the PvE market now?

[KethTheGodless]

Originally posted by CHR3S:

Originally posted by Ralf Yaknchuk:

Welcome to the group. Don't stop the research on who Snail Games is.
I've been trying to warn people for years about Snail Games and how they make new child companies for every game they make to hide their shame!
They pretend they are just small independent studios and milk the communities for every penny they can.
Abandon the game and create a new company, and a new cookie cutter ARK clone, with a new theme and skins.
Rinse and repeat.
Go check out all their titles they have done/doing this with!
They abuse EA like no other.
This is not good for the gaming community.
As when they finally remove EA from all the abuse.
This will only hurt the true small independent studios that truly need EA to get their games off the ground!
That will be a sad day, As I really like the premise of EA.
All the great games we have received because of EA is fantastic.

This could infact be true for Last Oasis.

There are several incidents for them milking the players. Just gonna say:

- console release (probably because pc sales stalled and they had to get more buyers, so why not milk the console market?)
- microtransactions in an early access game
- They push out seasons in an unreasonable and suspicious manner and they still get away with it.
- Everytime they release an update, it seems that the product is being cut into pieces and some pieces are getting removed.
- And now with Season 5 they turned LO into a PvE game so they can milk the PvE market now?

Don't blame on malice what can easily be explained by ignorance.

microtransaction in EA are fairly common place. Ark had full-on expansion packs and DLCs while still being in EA. Its still a business and businesses need money to operate. All Season 1 game sales went to pay off corporate date. And there wasnt any game sales in Season 2. So yeah that I dont mind

Season 5 they did turn into a grindy PvE game, but that was in response to averaging 200 players world wide. Can have a fighting game when there's no one around to fight.

The console release was just milking in, it sucked on console and core fighting mechanics like hard faints where not possible with the button layout.

[lammaer]

"microtransaction in EA are fairly common place. Ark had full-on expansion packs and DLCs while still being in EA. "

Since when a paid DLC called microtransaction?
Otherwise, u could bring up one example to indicate it is fairly common....

[DUDE]

idk, this is just me but once a games starts seasons that should be the end of EA

[Pzyclopz]

Originally posted by DUDE:

idk, this is just me but once a games starts seasons that should be the end of EA

It's probably to up player engagement for a bit. Since "Season" generally brings in more players than "Update", as it sets expectations for something with big changes.

[Ralf Yaknchuk]

Originally posted by DUDE:

idk, this is just me but once a games starts seasons that should be the end of EA

I think that EA should have some rules:
1: If you are owned by a parent company, You do not qualify. Period!
2: A time limit to be in EA, 2 or 3 years.
3: If you already abandoned a EA game, You do not qualify to start a new EA title!
4: To release a paid DLC, You have to be out of EA.
5: To release a microtransactions shop, You have to be out of EA.
6: Everyone can add your own to this list... I'm sure there are tons of great ideas out there.

All they are trying to do is run these games as a service, Without any obligations.
Milk the community and move on.
They have no intention of completing these games.
They just use the seasons as a excuse to make a broken patch and hype it up.
So they can put it on sale and try to milk more from the community.

They use EA as a shield to protect themselves.
The only power we have is to stop buying titles from them.
Then stop playing and abandon them as they abandoned us.
If we keep giving them money for nothing, Why would they stop.

[DUDE]

Originally posted by Ralf Yaknchuk:

Originally posted by DUDE:

idk, this is just me but once a games starts seasons that should be the end of EA

I think that EA should have some rules:
1: If you are owned by a parent company, You do not qualify. Period!
2: A time limit to be in EA, 2 or 3 years.
3: If you already abandoned a EA game, You do not qualify to start a new EA title!
4: To release a paid DLC, You have to be out of EA.
5: To release a microtransactions shop, You have to be out of EA.
6: Everyone can add your own to this list... I'm sure there are tons of great ideas out there.

All they are trying to do is run these games as a service, Without any obligations.
Milk the community and move on.
They have no intention of completing these games.
They just use the seasons as a excuse to make a broken patch and hype it up.
So they can put it on sale and try to milk more from the community.

They use EA as a shield to protect themselves.
The only power we have is to stop buying titles from them.
Then stop playing and abandon them as they abandoned us.
If we keep giving them money for nothing, Why would they stop.

1. I'd say if the game is pay to play then the unplayed time will roll over. so if you pay for 30 days of access to a game, but only play 5 hours. then your 30 days will show only used 5 hours, but i think that should be a rule for all games EA or not.
2. Make the developer commit to a release date before they offer early access. I remember when early access was i got to play a game 1 or 2 days before gamestop or big carriers had physical copies. not this elongated nonsense.

[Ralf Yaknchuk]

Anyone that reads the EA disclaimer can clearly see it is designed by it's very wordage to be a money grab!

Early Access: Give us some money and we promise to do nothing!

And Snail Games EA titles has taken it to a whole new level.
So FN sad, as all of these Snail Games titles had/have so much potential.

Atlas
Outlaws of the old West
Last Oasis
Dark and Light
Fear the Night
... plenty more

And their new addition:
Expedition Agartha
I will withhold judgment on this one for a bit, Give em a chance.
As it was only released 18 Aug, 2022.
Even tho, I'm pretty sure I know the outcome, If you are going by their track record.
LOL, Nevermind.
I just checked on Expedition Agartha and there is only 11 concurrent players as I write this! DOH!

I hope people are starting to understand Who Snail Games is.
Please stop supporting the demise of EA.
Force their hand to actually produce something for our money!

[PKOTG]

[Good Old Gamer]

Originally posted by Ralf Yaknchuk:

Originally posted by DUDE:

idk, this is just me but once a games starts seasons that should be the end of EA

I think that EA should have some rules:
1: If you are owned by a parent company, You do not qualify. Period!
2: A time limit to be in EA, 2 or 3 years.
3: If you already abandoned a EA game, You do not qualify to start a new EA title!
4: To release a paid DLC, You have to be out of EA.
5: To release a microtransactions shop, You have to be out of EA.
6: Everyone can add your own to this list... I'm sure there are tons of great ideas out there.

All they are trying to do is run these games as a service, Without any obligations.
Milk the community and move on.
They have no intention of completing these games.
They just use the seasons as a excuse to make a broken patch and hype it up.
So they can put it on sale and try to milk more from the community.

They use EA as a shield to protect themselves.
The only power we have is to stop buying titles from them.
Then stop playing and abandon them as they abandoned us.
If we keep giving them money for nothing, Why would they stop.

so that when people like us stop buying their BS they have so much money they can hire thousands of shills which will start the entire cycle again for another 10>20 years and they can forever launder money

for proof of this look at those other mentioned games and lets not forget the tragedy of Dark & Light LOOOOL

[KethTheGodless]

I have no idea what your talking about. Like at all.

And everyone keeps blaming this on EA. Its not an EA issue. The issue is way deeper than that. DK is only able to write code. But its directionless becouse they dont have the other parts of SDLC. They have no user requirements gathering to make sure they where developing something that was actually wanted, no Quality Assurance to make sure there code worked as intended, and no User Acceptance Testing to make sure it worked the way WE intended.

But none of that has anything to do with EA [/quote]

[GADefence]

The game feels like an ark title so I'm surprised it wasn't already.