How is the combat so bad?

[adamguzzo94]

How does a game that pretty much revolves around fighting have the absolute no questions asked worst hand to hand system in the history of the videogame? He swings his arms around like a palsey ridden 5 year old and has less stamina than someone with chronic bronchitis and on top of that you cant even block or use 3/4 of the gear you pick up because of that garbage stat system. Its like an anti adventure game.

[kris.aalst]

Yeah, and please tell me about the in-depth melee combat in Skyrim.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789375993
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[LukanGamer]

clear bait at best and at worst either typical ignorant kid / lacking brains.

Fact even say " revolves around fighting" and ignoring all else game offers from setting to characters to choices to etc... is telling .. well for both...

[HeartOfTheBrave]

PB is infamous for having bad combat and weird hitboxes. Simply put: they can't do it. They don't know how it works but they just flow with it.
Same for the animations, you can't tell me these aren't made by some student intern. If it is about technology and competence using it, PB should disband. If they didn't have such a small but loyal community of buyers, THQ would'be buried them already.

[adamguzzo94]

I don't know where all this "charm" is but I stand by my original comment of "anti adventure game"

[Dixon Sider]

The adventure is in searching for things to do that you are capable of. Its all about learning the world and exploring. This is as RPG as a game can get.

Maybe try putting your phone in another room or playing in full screen to help keep you from constantly alt tabbing. Its all about immersion and roleplaying.

The combat is clunky but extremely fair. If something is too difficult then you can always come back later. Dont bash your head against the wall fighting enemies with billions of HP that 1-shot you.

This is not a typical RPG. It like an old school style RPG. RPGs back in the day couldnt rely on crazy animations and super fluid combat. RPGs used to be about storytelling and immersion. Not following an arrow to the zone with enemies your level.

[HeartOfTheBrave]

Old school style = outdated, boring, tedious and lazy.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by HeartOfTheBrave:

Old school style = outdated, boring, tedious and lazy.

Ah, another bait! And I sense some strong negativity here, since multiple topics in the forum and also in ELEX's forum have been reopened with similar comments.

Kindly point me at games with clearly superior implementations. Unfortunately, your Steam profile is completely private, and your post history is all over the place with you lashing out in various forums up to the point that you don't even acknowledge what gameplay value can be found in GreedFall.

The formulae that build the foundation of Piranha Bytes' games haven't changed much over the many years when it comes to combat. Player is provided with a set of tools to get the job done. Depending on difficulty mode, player may need to specialize - player may need to perform dry practice and evaluate how different weapons and skills work and how effective they are against specific types of foes. That's the whole point of the combat gameplay. There are multiple ways to get the job done, and yes, there may be cheesy ways too, like stock-piling mental energy reserves in ELEX and wasting them early while abusing PSI Black Hole against groups of enemies. So what? The games are not about searching for the one and only mandatory way how to defeat an enemy. Do what works for you!

[Dixon Sider]

If old school is boring then dont play old school games. I dont play new school games because they put me to sleep. I end up spending my gameplay time looking up cooking recipes on Youtube. Different strokes for different folks

[HeartOfTheBrave]

Elden Ring puts you to sleep? Elex 2 was one of the easiest games I ever played.
It's just time consuming. Slash, dodge, slash, dodge. Works for every single enemy including final boss.
Was just a damage sponge tbh. So glad it's finally over. I just finished the game.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by HeartOfTheBrave:

Elden Ring puts you to sleep? Elex 2 was one of the easiest games I ever played.
It's just time consuming. Slash, dodge, slash, dodge. Works for every single enemy including final boss.
Was just a damage sponge tbh. So glad it's finally over. I just finished the game.

What does Elden Ring have to do with this game? Is that your only example? No Elden Ring doesnt put me to sleep, but if that is your only example then you should be able to see why this game is praised.

Calling Elden Ring a new school RPG is pretty bazzar, but that is probably the length you would need to go to find something that compares to Elex 2.

That example really drives home my point of "this is as RPG as you are going to get". Thats why I choose to play this over Elden Ring right now. I want an RPG.

Compare this game to an open world RPG like Final Fantasy 15, Witcher, Skyrim, maybe Assassin Creed, or something of the same type. This game is the best we have.

If you bought this game expecting a souls-like (challenging hack and slash with corpse runs) then you made a mistake.

[Crevan Izekil']

All of PB games had garbage combat. Part of the charm.