Solo only game?

[DudeBro69]

I have not seen much discussion or gameplay that showcases co-op well.

Also it does not have a group finder system.

Makes me think its a fully solo focused game.

Is that how we should be approaching this game?

[Drakanen]

group finder? thats called chat or forum
i really dont understand how people want to play with other, but dont want to write anything?

[hajabuba]

This aren't darktide/drg type of a game. Its mostly solo, or with bunch of friends, like basically any other arpg.

[Eldritch Warden]

It is an ARPG, if you want to group up with someone you will do it through forums or the chat (or irl ofc). You are supposed to play it solo if you are solo or with another person if there's another person that wants to play the game with you. There is no group specific content, there are no raids, this is not an MMO.

[DudeBro69]

I'm guessing the audience here only play indie lite games?

Have you all never heard of D3, Warframe, Deep rock G, wow, eso, gw2, lost ark, etc etc etc

Group finder is a part of most successful and ongoing successful games that have multiplayer as a facet of their gameplay.

In fact even helldivers 1 & 2 has it and its a blast.

Discord dependency screams poor game design.

Diablo 4 did not arrive with group finder and its been the most voted for feature in the forums since launch.
Diablo 3 had amazing group finder.

You may not think its important but you are hugely mistaken in that.

[Midrak]

Originally posted by DudeBro69:

I'm guessing the audience here only play indie lite games?

Have you all never heard of D3, Warframe, Deep rock G, wow, eso, gw2, lost ark, etc etc etc

Group finder is a part of most successful and ongoing successful games that have multiplayer as a facet of their gameplay.

In fact even helldivers 1 & 2 has it and its a blast.

Discord dependency screams poor game design.

Diablo 4 did not arrive with group finder and its been the most voted for feature in the forums since launch.
Diablo 3 had amazing group finder.

You may not think its important but you are hugely mistaken in that.

Well yeah its a feature that is good, sure but you dont need that in a ARPG. All this talk about Multiplayer is just fake to sell you skins. It have no meaning here .

[DudeBro69]

Originally posted by Midrak:

Originally posted by DudeBro69:

I'm guessing the audience here only play indie lite games?

Have you all never heard of D3, Warframe, Deep rock G, wow, eso, gw2, lost ark, etc etc etc

Group finder is a part of most successful and ongoing successful games that have multiplayer as a facet of their gameplay.

In fact even helldivers 1 & 2 has it and its a blast.

Discord dependency screams poor game design.

Diablo 4 did not arrive with group finder and its been the most voted for feature in the forums since launch.
Diablo 3 had amazing group finder.

You may not think its important but you are hugely mistaken in that.

Well yeah its a feature that is good, sure but you dont need that in a ARPG. All this talk about Multiplayer is just fake to sell you skins. It have no meaning here .

That is what bothers me the most.

I would like to show off my skins in public play the same way i would dress up for a night out or ppl dress up for cosplay.

Why skins and no multiplayer focus?

[MaroK]

solo

[Midrak]

Originally posted by DudeBro69:

Originally posted by Midrak:

Well yeah its a feature that is good, sure but you dont need that in a ARPG. All this talk about Multiplayer is just fake to sell you skins. It have no meaning here .

That is what bothers me the most.

I would like to show off my skins in public play the same way i would dress up for a night out or ppl dress up for cosplay.

Why skins and no multiplayer focus?

Well Zeitgeist

Player/Human = Stdity, indcotrination, full of capitalist idealology and suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

Company/Devs = Just look at what other games have done and try to COPY the same concept.

[kongkim]

Play multiplayer with your friends.

[DudeBro69]

Originally posted by kongkim:

Play multiplayer with your friends.

They dont play this game and are mostly on PS5

Now you're gonna say do the discord meta thingy?

In early 2000's the selling point for online was play with anyone anywhere.
In 2024, play with your friends or refund.

What a terrible gaming industry we have tolerated and created.

[Midrak]

Originally posted by DudeBro69:

Originally posted by kongkim:

Play multiplayer with your friends.

They dont play this game and are mostly on PS5

Now you're gonna say do the discord meta thingy?

In early 2000's the selling point for online was play with anyone anywhere.
In 2024, play with your friends or refund.

What a terrible gaming industry we have tolerated and created.

Wait there is more, every new game will be....the SAME!

[DudeBro69]

Originally posted by Midrak:

Originally posted by DudeBro69:

They dont play this game and are mostly on PS5

Now you're gonna say do the discord meta thingy?

In early 2000's the selling point for online was play with anyone anywhere.
In 2024, play with your friends or refund.

What a terrible gaming industry we have tolerated and created.

Wait there is more, every new game will be....the SAME!

LMFAO!!! You can smell a diablo clone or a souls clone from the first screenshot now.

[Midrak]

Originally posted by DudeBro69:

Originally posted by Midrak:

Wait there is more, every new game will be....the SAME!

LMFAO!!! You can smell a diablo clone or a souls clone from the first screenshot now.

Of course this means business model.

[Equeliber]

This is not an MMORPG. It has exactly the same co-op/multiplayer as Path of Exile. Sure, it would be nice to have at least some basic group finder like in D3 for those that want it, may be they will add it later. As it is, the state of co-op is perfectly fine for launch. Half of the games you brought up (gw2, eso etc) are from a completely different genre, I repeat - this is NOT an MMO. Most ARPG players play solo or with a few of their friends. Playing with random people has never been a thing in the ARPG genre.

[DudeBro69]

Originally posted by Equeliber:

This is not an MMORPG. It has exactly the same co-op/multiplayer as Path of Exile. Sure, it would be nice to have at least some basic group finder like in D3, may be they will add it later. As it is, the state of co-op is perfectly fine for launch. Half of the games you brought up (gw2, eso etc) are from a completely different genre, I repeat - this is NOT an MMO.

Has nothing to do with mmo.

The idea is grouping.

In all of those games you could be soloing and then queue for a dungeon run with anyone, friends or groups comprised of friends and randos.

Also if D3 could do it a decade ago and master it and make it the most popular aspect of it then im sure other clones could learn from that.
Considering everyone copied seasons from D3, they could have copied the excellent matchmaking as well if they actually cared about the gamer.

POE has an in game form of party system but is partially lacking due to the fact that its from the D3 era as well and the devs didnt initially build around it.