Full Campaign?

[Jordi85]

Hello, i'm super interested in this game after watching some videos and given that ARPG's are among my favorite genres. :)

However, it is said the campaign in 1.0 isn't finished. Is this true? And if it is, is there an estimation on when the rest of it would come out?
If it's not complete then i would likely have to wait before buying, don't really feel right buying an ARPG with an incomplete base story ( expansions are another thing of course ).

Also, are there difficulty settings like for example in Torchlight 2? Or is it only New Game+ kind of setup?

[andrew.thiele]

9 of the planned 12 story chapters will be available at launch. They have an internal timeline for its completion, as stated during this dev stream, but there's no external timetable for their release.

There are no difficulty options for the campaign like there are in Torchlight 2. There is a Hardcore option available (which limits you to a single life and if you die you go to Softcore) as well as infinite difficulty scaling options in 2 of the 3 endgame modes (Monolith of Fate via corruption and the Arena via endless arena).

[Jordi85]

That sucks, then i will have to wait. :(
It's a worrying trend how most games come out incomplete nowadays. 35€ is a great price, and specially for an ARPG, but i'm not buying it with an incomplete story.

Thanks

[Basilllisk]

Releasing 1.0 with an incomplete story is by definition not a proper 1.0 release and I'm suspecting reviewing are going to be scathing for it.

[Remnar]

Why are they releasing 1.0 if they aren't done with the game? Sounds like I may have to wait another year or 2. Some game studios just lose their EA status to bring in more money, when the game isn't even finished, or left in a janky state. 2 games come to mind that did that: Stars End, and Empyrion. Both are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ janky games that cut their EA title early. I am noticing this happening with other games too. Maybe it's time for Valve to do something about the EA abuse.

[Bludbonez]

I personally am having a blast in Last Epoch. The Campaign is fun and a bit challenging if you are a newer player like me. I highly recommend it!

[Mortius]

Originally posted by andrew.thiele:

9 of the planned 12 story chapters will be available at launch. They have an internal timeline for its completion, as stated during this dev stream, but there's no external timetable for their release.

There are no difficulty options for the campaign like there are in Torchlight 2. There is a Hardcore option available (which limits you to a single life and if you die you go to Softcore) as well as infinite difficulty scaling options in 2 of the 3 endgame modes (Monolith of Fate via corruption and the Arena via endless arena).

Why are they keeping this hush hush? I wasn't aware that the story wouldn't be completed on release, had I known I wouldn't have bought it... If you release a game you are effectivly marketing it as a complete product, a game with an unfinished story is by NO means complete. That is borderline fraudulent to even market it as such.

[Mortius]

I guess I'll just have to place a refund when it comes out on 1.0 with no finished story, I was promised a game in a finished state.

[Donte]

Originally posted by Mortius:

I guess I'll just have to place a refund when it comes out on 1.0 with no finished story, I was promised a game in a finished state.

9 hours too late m8

[Mortius]

Originally posted by Donte:

Originally posted by Mortius:

I guess I'll just have to place a refund when it comes out on 1.0 with no finished story, I was promised a game in a finished state.

9 hours too late m8

Not necessarily, Steam refund window can be past the 2 hour mark if you have reasonable grounds for refund in this case advertising as a finished product but NOT finished.

[Mandarin |Sky|]

Originally posted by Remnar:

Why are they releasing 1.0 if they aren't done with the game? Sounds like I may have to wait another year or 2. Some game studios just lose their EA status to bring in more money, when the game isn't even finished, or left in a janky state. 2 games come to mind that did that: Stars End, and Empyrion. Both are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ janky games that cut their EA title early. I am noticing this happening with other games too. Maybe it's time for Valve to do something about the EA abuse.

Because the campaign is just a tutorial before endgame, It's a well designed campaign, but most people just rush it anyways to get to the "real" content.

The campaign is still an enjoyable experience in LE, and some of the reworked zones are lovely, but adding more chapters isn't a priority because that's not what Arpg fans have as their top priority.

[Donte]

Originally posted by Mortius:

Originally posted by Donte:

9 hours too late m8

Not necessarily, Steam refund window can be past the 2 hour mark if you have reasonable grounds for refund in this case advertising as a finished product but NOT finished.

developers aren't hiding it so I am not sure if steam employee will be willing to give you a refund

[Mortius]

Originally posted by Mandarin |Sky|:

Originally posted by Remnar:

Why are they releasing 1.0 if they aren't done with the game? Sounds like I may have to wait another year or 2. Some game studios just lose their EA status to bring in more money, when the game isn't even finished, or left in a janky state. 2 games come to mind that did that: Stars End, and Empyrion. Both are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ janky games that cut their EA title early. I am noticing this happening with other games too. Maybe it's time for Valve to do something about the EA abuse.

Because the campaign is just a tutorial before endgame, It's a well designed campaign, but most people just rush it anyways to get to the "real" content.

The campaign is still an enjoyable experience in LE, and some of the reworked zones are lovely, but adding more chapters isn't a priority because that's not what Arpg fans have as their top priority.

That's a terrible excuse.

[Mortius]

Originally posted by Donte:

Originally posted by Mortius:

Not necessarily, Steam refund window can be past the 2 hour mark if you have reasonable grounds for refund in this case advertising as a finished product but NOT finished.

developers aren't hiding it so I am not sure if steam employee will be willing to give you a refund

Doesn't matter if they aren't hiding it, leaving early access is admitting that your product is ready for release and thus in a finished state.

[Basilllisk]

Originally posted by Mandarin |Sky|:

Originally posted by Remnar:

Why are they releasing 1.0 if they aren't done with the game? Sounds like I may have to wait another year or 2. Some game studios just lose their EA status to bring in more money, when the game isn't even finished, or left in a janky state. 2 games come to mind that did that: Stars End, and Empyrion. Both are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ janky games that cut their EA title early. I am noticing this happening with other games too. Maybe it's time for Valve to do something about the EA abuse.

Because the campaign is just a tutorial before endgame, It's a well designed campaign, but most people just rush it anyways to get to the "real" content.

The campaign is still an enjoyable experience in LE, and some of the reworked zones are lovely, but adding more chapters isn't a priority because that's not what Arpg fans have as their top priority.

I'm entirely unconvinced "most" people rush the content. Maybe the majority of the vocal, hardcore players that put a thousand hours into agame, but that isn't most people. Most actual, casual players and enjoyers of arpgs aren't going to be doing that.

[Ravenkid9266]

Originally posted by Mortius:

Why are they keeping this hush hush?

Most of the less then ideal information tends to come from the developer live streams, and if you attempt to bring that information up or point it out you get shouted down, as you can see from just this small sample size.

If you bother to link that information well, tell steam support I said hi, you often get your posts reported and taken down.

Be it the missing item models, the skill/trees, seasonal content, PvP, achievements, the campaign or any other promoted feature missing from the 1.0 launch it tends to be the same response.

Oh you meant why are the developers keeping it hush hush, well you would have to ask them. When they gutted the promoted features of the Rune Master and reworked the class into something else entirely the developer response was "the information was out there".