can you get item from CoF and then sell it on bazaar?

[Za]

The title.

I look into trade factions system and its INSANE. Its literally a groundbreaking. Very ambitious, looks GOOD.

But the question I have since the announcements - I couldnt find an answer for it in the trailers. The question is - since there is no penalty for switching the faction, could you just get a good loot in Circle of Fortune and then just switch faction and sell that loot in Merchant Guild? Or there is some restrictions?

Cos it seems devs wants to literally have 2 loot managements with "I want to make loot myself" and "I want to trade stuff". But if there is no restrictions for such feat - it simply became mandatory to be in CoF on farm and in MG on trade.

So... mb I just missing something.

[Kmany]

how i understand it.. if you find it in CoF you cant put it in the bazaar because it will be tagged as Cof.

[Ravenkid9266]

There are two types of items that drop when you are in the CoF faction.

Items that would have dropped anyway.
Items influenced by your faction bonus.

Items influenced by your faction get the faction requirement to use and cannot be sold. Items that are not influenced by your faction do not get that requirement and can be used if you decide to change factions or sold once you do change. This also applies to gifting, you can gift items to another player but the faction requirements if any stay on the item.

Expanding a bit this means if you group often its better to stay in the same faction.

[Za]

Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:

There are two types of items that drop when you are in the CoF faction.

Items that would have dropped anyway.
Items influenced by your faction bonus.

Items influenced by your faction get the faction requirement to use and cannot be sold. Items that are not influenced by your faction do not get that requirement and can be used if you decide to change factions or sold once you do change. This also applies to gifting, you can gift items to another player but the faction requirements if any stay on the item.

Expanding a bit this means if you group often its better to stay in the same faction.

Oh so the CoF tag made it not sellable. Thats good thats good! Thats very good! Thats exactly what Ive been looking for.
Its just I didnt hear that in the trailer for this system so I was wondering. If you really cant sell those items and they are "for personal and party use" - its perfect.

[Brian9824]

But if an item drops with the COF tag, can it be manually traded with someone else who is in the COF guild at the moment? Or is it bound only to YOU.

So if you find a good COF item can you advertise and trade it days later with more work?

[Multihack]

Originally posted by brian9824:

But if an item drops with the COF tag, can it be manually traded with someone else who is in the COF guild at the moment? Or is it bound only to YOU.

So if you find a good COF item can you advertise and trade it days later with more work?

No they don't like bartering either.
You'd need a rare drop, a "stamp" of sorts so you can send the item via mail. Basically gifting but with an added cost

[JohnMiller92]

all this trading buffoonery with favor, factions, etc will backfire so bad a few months after release. it'll be glorious to witness

devs trying to cater to all the reddit/forum tears instead of sticking to a free economy that's vital for an arpg to flourish (especially an online one)

[Scarsick]

Originally posted by JohnMiller92:

all this trading buffoonery with favor, factions, etc will backfire so bad a few months after release. it'll be glorious to witness

"it will backfire so bad because reasons"

noted

[JohnMiller92]

Originally posted by Scarsick:

Originally posted by JohnMiller92:

all this trading buffoonery with favor, factions, etc will backfire so bad a few months after release. it'll be glorious to witness

"it will backfire so bad because reasons"

noted

bookmark this thread and come back to it in 3 months~. you'll see :D

[Brian9824]

I mean a lot of this stuff actually sounds nice. If you don't ever want to trade or deal with market you'd just stay in COF. The fact you can't infinitely re-sell stuff is also nice and provides an actual economy, especially since its just gold. So low level items are actually going to be in demand as people can't just sell them when they outgrow them for instance.

[JohnMiller92]

Originally posted by brian9824:

I mean a lot of this stuff actually sounds nice. If you don't ever want to trade or deal with market you'd just stay in COF. The fact you can't infinitely re-sell stuff is also nice and provides an actual economy, especially since its just gold. So low level items are actually going to be in demand as people can't just sell them when they outgrow them for instance.

everything you said is wrong. infinitely re-selling stuff is an actual economy. and players should have every right to sell an item they outgrew.

lol.. like wtf

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by JohnMiller92:

Originally posted by brian9824:

I mean a lot of this stuff actually sounds nice. If you don't ever want to trade or deal with market you'd just stay in COF. The fact you can't infinitely re-sell stuff is also nice and provides an actual economy, especially since its just gold. So low level items are actually going to be in demand as people can't just sell them when they outgrow them for instance.

everything you said is wrong. infinitely re-selling stuff is an actual economy. and players should have every right to sell an item they outgrew.

lol.. like wtf

The problem is it floods the market. Infinite supply of items that never degrades ends up making items worthless. It causes the price to plummet and the only items that end up being worth anything is the 1% the elites get. The rest end up being trash and not worth selling.

In a real economy you have degradation and wear and tear and shipping costs, that all produce friction to keep things having a value.

[Za]

Originally posted by JohnMiller92:

all this trading buffoonery with favor, factions, etc will backfire so bad a few months after release. it'll be glorious to witness

devs trying to cater to all the reddit/forum tears instead of sticking to a free economy that's vital for an arpg to flourish (especially an online one)

there is no such thing as "free" economy. Even in games like PoE economy is dictated by price fixers and other bimbos. Thats why its a very good thing there is a fully funtioning SSF mode like CoF.
And if you want to trade - you join bazaar and trade all you like just like in PoE. Only better cos there is ACTUAL trade in-game without awakened PoE trade, PoE macro and other fun stuff made by not devs.
So I cant see how it actually could backfire since its not demanding in any way shape or form.

[Ice-Nine]

Originally posted by JohnMiller92:

vital for an arpg to flourish (especially an online one)

An economy is not only not vital (LMFAO), trading often ruins the game.