Last Epoch

Last Epoch

Gaffi Feb 17, 2024 @ 11:53pm
Lagon is overtuned !
The question I read every day in chat is: Can someone help me with Lagon? Please do something about it !
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StarryEyes Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:04am 
I promise you he's easy and lagon really isn't the problem. The problem is that the game doesn't properly prepare players for this fight. That being said he's basically there to serve as a barrier of entry. capped physical res makes this fight a lot easier.
Steel Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:15am 
Sounds like a difficulty spike.
From what I played the campaign is very easy, I haven't reached this guy yet since I'm saving myself for 1.0, but sounds like the game should ramp up the challenge earlier to prepare for it better.
Last edited by Steel; Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:15am
Tictactucrac Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:42am 
He has arguably the hardest mechanics of all progression bosses in this game imo (i don't know about lvl 100 yet and the campaign Lagon is a joke, i'm only talking about level 75 monolith), the last phase there is very little room for mistake damage hit zones are coming from everywhere at a very fast pace and they hit super hard even with max phys/frost/lightning resist and a healthy amount of hp+protection.

I skipped past it to finish other monoliths with ease (some bosses killed me once but after I prepared with adequate resist it was easy) I can probably go back and kill it now that I am level 85 and have slightly better gear.

Now the real question to me is, is Lagon too hard or are all the other bosses too easy ? I don't know how difficult the bosses are at level 100 so I'll reserve my judgement until then.

But honestly I find it refreshing that bosses can actually kill you in 2 or 3 hits even with proper gear. It's giving me D3 vanilla inferno difficulty vs Diablo vibes, it's not just a DPS check it's an actual skill check.

The rest of the game is typical arpg which is walking simulator + big number simulator but essentially 0 challenge once you're geared up, the game plays itself the fun is in the building. Having proper gamePLAY against some bosses is good.

tl:dr Lagon is hard but not too hard, other bosses are too easy
Last edited by Tictactucrac; Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:48am
Aerond Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:44am 
Slogon.
tankanidis Feb 18, 2024 @ 3:18am 
he is the biggest wake up that resists/hp regen are needed to survive

Before him you can get through the game with 0 resists

Without them, most players will likely repeatedly get 1 shot by him

It's an annoying fight with very easy 'you die here' mechanics attached to it if you don't know the fight perfectly

You need phys + water/ice(been a while since i played forgot which is in game) resists and hp regen to survive the fight
Kotli Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:27am 
Stack cold and lighting resist as that what most of Lagon damage is.
Also keep an eye on his head for clues on what his next attack will be and were this helps you dodge the nasties.
Lastly try using a movement skill if you have trouble moving out of the damage zones.
Ravenkid9266 Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:34am 
Do your resistances/health matter in story Lagon? yes but also no.

Can an experienced player build to overcome Lagon using numbers in the story? yes, but can a new player? unlikely both due to lacking the "proper" gear, and the knowledge to build in such a way. Attempting to overcome problems with numbers will lead to a poor outcome, Lagon is the first real introduction to the balance by one-shot design that continues for the rest of the game.

Can you sidestep this problem by going to monoliths early? absolutely. You can also do it again with monolith Lagon and sidestep that route? absolutely.

A player is better served by embracing the one-shot balance and learning to move out of the way of the bad.
ObsidianButterfly Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:42am 
I hated the fight because the last time I did it if you died, it would soft-lock the game by being unable to resurrect and try again (the box to do so would just never show up) and force you to restart the game. Was annoying as hell, on top of the whole BS about maps not staying cleared anyway, which is terrible design.
Lombardic De Valter Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:36pm 
this and the architect fight previously.. where she was teleporting and hit you off-screen.
really is a battle that i think stopping the game. It was fun just before this fight.
TexMexChexMix Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:37pm 
I had some trouble with Lagon the first play through then realized that grinding up about 3 levels above the area level really helped. Just remember to float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.
Big Iron Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:08pm 
Lagon is just this games Kitava. Its a skill and defenses check for the player (not really a DPS check). You need to get 60%+ resists and ideally close to 100% crit avoidance to comfortably fight lagon, but you also cant afk brain, you have to move around and learn to dodge his slow and telegraphed attacks. You can actually manipulate his AI by just being on one side of the ledge then when he begins to shift for his eye attack, moving to the other side. He basically follows the player around with both his hands and body so keeping moving is the key to winning the fight.

You also have to kill him two more times, once in regular monoliths to clear them and once again in empowered monoliths for the greater blessing (and he has some pretty good blessings for player power), so you had better learn the fight!
Last edited by Big Iron; Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:09pm
Traveler Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:11pm 
You can't just stand still and hold right click. Alternate between the 2 tentacles when he's about to do the water beam. That's literally all there is to it. Everything aside from the water beam I just face tank.
i made it by stashing 75% cold, lightning, and physical resistances. idols i kept from my play-through. slow but.. i did it.
Last edited by Lombardic De Valter; Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:15pm
dudex Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:23pm 
problem with this game is that a lot of people will be playing glass cannon due to the low difficulty

however once you reach some of the end bosses you wont be able to kill them in 5 seconds and will actually have to tank hits and do mechanics.
Lelouch Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by StarryEyes:
I promise you he's easy and lagon really isn't the problem. The problem is that the game doesn't properly prepare players for this fight. That being said he's basically there to serve as a barrier of entry. capped physical res makes this fight a lot easier.

I started the game a few days ago, and every bosses was easy AF until I arrived at Lagon (architect was a bit tough too, especially the fact that he's fighting you outside of the screen), and now i'm just stuck there because it OS me with only one attack (with almost one attack every 1-2 seconds and sometimes they just fill the entire battlefield) and I clearly do not have enough DPS too... Also If you keep moving to dodge every attack you cant dps too.

So I guess I'll have to farm a specific stuff with some resistance but its just a huge difficulty peak that appears out of nowhere. It's not really an issue but I juste wanted to end the story before farming for specific stuff, because I feel what I'll farm for lagon will just be useless after that.
Last edited by Lelouch; Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:43pm
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