Cosmetics not available in offline mode?

[leprechaunb]

I just did a final read through to decide on either the deluxe or ultimate edition.
But read the following warning:

"Cosmetic items require an online connection and are not available in offline mode"

I will be playing on a ROG Ally, always solo, and planned to select offline mode.
is there any benefit to playing online mode? In my experience, games that require being online come with the chance of server issues, which I wanted to avoid.

[CrucialEnd]

Last I read was that there will be no cosmetics available to offline mode unfortunately. I hope the server stability improves by 1.0 because right now the game is unplayable online for me and many others so cosmetics are basically out of our reach right now.

[nowhere man]

Their concerns are about modders / crackers making all cosmetics available for offline mode even if the person did not pay for any. Since they are not doing anything about trainers and cheats for offline mode, that's how they decided to stop cosmetics piracy.

[Ravenkid9266]

The official reason why they cant do offline cosmetics is because EHG is still using their currency, and steam does not allow that business practice. As long as EHG continues to use their currency it wont change.

"people" say its due to piracy/modding/hacking concerns but as it stands those who are going to do such things are not customers anyway. This stance only has downsides, especially given their stance on mods in general.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:

The official reason why they cant do offline cosmetics is because EHG is still using their currency, and steam does not allow that business practice. As long as EHG continues to use their currency it wont change.

"people" say its due to piracy/modding/hacking concerns but as it stands those who are going to do such things are not customers anyway. This stance only has downsides, especially given their stance on mods in general.

I did not know they had that official reason. Damn....

[hajabuba]

Can't "offline cosmetics pirates" just mod every gear piece model into the one they want?

[Bludbonez]

Originally posted by hajabuba:

Can't "offline cosmetics pirates" just mod every gear piece model into the one they want?

As a Grim Dawn player. You made a very good point!

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by hajabuba:

Can't "offline cosmetics pirates" just mod every gear piece model into the one they want?

Modders can just model new ones themselves, but that would not be the ones officially released by EHG. That code will be only server side, protected.

[Ravenkid9266]

Originally posted by nowhere man:

I did not know they had that official reason. Damn....

It made more "sense" before EHG reworked the currency models to be more transparent, and made sense why steam has an issue with that practice. When EHG changed the pricing though it just became silly.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by Bludbonez:

Originally posted by hajabuba:

Can't "offline cosmetics pirates" just mod every gear piece model into the one they want?

As a Grim Dawn player. You made a very good point!

He did not just realize that the code containing the models for the official skins will be protected, server side. The only way they can be obtained is by breaching the official servers. Don´t expect that to happen.

[Ravenkid9266]

Modders typically are less interested in opening up existing cosmetics, they tend to want to make their own.

A hacker? someone who is playing offline and would not buy the game/cosmetic anyway? not a customer in the first place.

A user who plays offline and wants to support the developers? Nah, we dont want your support.

A user who plays both online and offline? This is just straight value increase, que "but wait there's more".

Where is the upside again? There is a tendency to hold tight to attempt to prevent any possible illicit sales lost, and often in the process you both fail to stop it, and you end up preventing legitimate sales.

[nowhere man]

I don´t agree with this sollution of theirs, it is cumbersome, and will make people that would be potential cosmetics buyers and who prefer offline play over online, not buy the cosmetics.

But on the other hand I can see why they would do that. People who own the game would definitely get a offline unlocker for all skins and enjoy them without paying.

[Ravenkid9266]

Originally posted by nowhere man:

I don´t agree with this sollution of theirs, it is cumbersome, and will make people that would be potential cosmetics buyers and who prefer offline play over online, not buy the cosmetics.

But you are forgetting all of the fringe benefits to such a system. By casting these potential customers aside, and clinging to their currency model, EHG will be able to give away 1/20th of a cosmetic to a contest winner.

Now I hear you surely I am being hyperbolic, but that is the 2nd talking point to arise out of this situation. It came about after the currency change and according to a source confirmed to be in the CT program you would need to win about 20 contest to get a cosmetic, depending on what one you wanted.

Surely the benefits outweigh the downsides.

[Operation40]

Originally posted by nowhere man:

the code containing the models for the official skins will be protected, server side.

at some point though, you have to download the model to see it on your character
and other people have to download it to see it on you

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by Operation40:

Originally posted by nowhere man:

the code containing the models for the official skins will be protected, server side.

at some point though, you have to download the model to see it on your character
and other people have to download it to see it on you

Yeah but that could be either done server side and streamed to you, or could be highly encrypted if they chose to write the models to your RAM. Just a guessing game here, but that's what I would imagine.

[Cyrus]

We grim dawn players would mod in cosmetics offline for 8 years and irs just normal practice, albeit grim dawn is explicitly offline game wirh online elements. I can see why devs of last epoch would make it the way they did.


Just wait for mods, replacement of models is something anyone can do with blender alone for many cases