Last Epoch or Diablo IV?

[SgtFopper™]

Hello folks!
To all of you who had the opportunity to test and enjoy "Last Epoch" during Early Access. Why should I get Last Epoch rather than Diablo IV? I haven't played either of them yet, but I've seen a lot of videos; not so much of Last Epoch.

I'm looking forward to your feedback.

[Fluxion]

LOL!!! What a troll. Asking what is better IN THE LE FORUM. I "can't imagine" what people are going to say. Did you get the points you wanted? JFC

[~Lazy_Eggs~]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย loves frogjs:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ~Lazy_Eggs~:

your best answer is misleading

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Long story short ... it's not a crafting system, but an upgrading system ... You can't take a piece of white armor and turn it super .. you'll have to filter out for the highest stats to upgrade it instead.

Well, that still can be considered as crafting system. And moreover, the question was how D4 compares to LE, and the anwser is - D4 does not have even that.

well, if you consider that crafting then D4 has crafting. It's all a matter of opinion at this point.

i see dog and i say it's a dog.

only PoE has a true crafting system since you can take a statless armor and make it beefy.

like i said ... you have to depend on god rolls on gear b4 you upgrade it.

I also consider D4 an upgrade system since you aren't making anything but changing stats around ... same with LE ... you aren't taking something from 0 and making it 100 ... aka limiting .. so you can make 0 to 20 if you're lucky, but thats as far as you go

[V|RUS]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย SgtFopper™:

Hello folks!
To all of you who had the opportunity to test and enjoy "Last Epoch" during Early Access. Why should I get Last Epoch rather than Diablo IV? I haven't played either of them yet, but I've seen a lot of videos; not so much of Last Epoch.

I'm looking forward to your feedback.

D4 Lost 50% of its playerbase and LE has 300% more Players now.
in LE you only pay real money for the game and for skins/effects.
LE has an more Fun Late Game

Only thing D4 is better in is the Story and maybe the Graphics

[Goonbag]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย SgtFopper™:

Hello folks!
To all of you who had the opportunity to test and enjoy "Last Epoch" during Early Access. Why should I get Last Epoch rather than Diablo IV? I haven't played either of them yet, but I've seen a lot of videos; not so much of Last Epoch.

I'm looking forward to your feedback.

Brother, Diablo 4 isn't targeted at the legacy ARPG audience. They're targeted to a "broad" audience. It's hard to explain, but D4 feels soulless. Plus the price point for D4 is absolutely ridiculous, on top of that it has a battlepass and multiple MTX slop. It feels wrong and dirty.

Last Epoch is actually made by ARPG fans, and not corpo suits. I'd say if you've played D2, PoE and Grim Dawn, you're the audience for Last Epoch. If you enjoyed D3 and D4, this game isn't really marketed to you.

[D#]

D4 has only 2 things going for it over LE: A continuation of the diablo story line for those that care, and honestly amazing cut scenes.

[Nuclear Nadal]

D4 only better at the graphics and animation, it's a top notch.
Other than that LE is better at everything except the above.

[WOKEGOD]

becuz its better than d4

[~Lazy_Eggs~]

Experience wise and Open world would be d4 ... it's seamless transition on the open world. until you go into a dungeon then you get loading screen

LE is like PoE ... or like a linear game that has a lot of load screens when transitioning to another part of a map.

D4 gameplay wise is sort of dull and pigeon holes you to one build, but if you are just going for story and experience ... D4 would be your better choice ... not the price though

LE also offer a chrono trigger inspired story campaign, but the tech for this game is old.

to be honest ... LE offers a a 1 fps map with nodes representing location and transitions, D4's map is a lot bigger and more open.

end game is preference and opinion and doesn't matter. It's what you like. Google end game for each game and you'll find videos to fit your fancy.

Class in LE seems to be more balanced and varied compare to D4.

D4 i can't play other classes and have fun, but LE I played 2 classes only and enjoyed them both. Can't wait to try other class and sub classes to see if I actually enjoy them too.

D4 class for me is like night and day ... one class i'll enjoy and then the next one will feel like a chore.

if you want an answer then i say get LE for price, but D4 will give the better experience story and world wise.

Not saying LE is bad, Just saying D4 is better for the experience, but LE still offers a good story experience.

D4 endgame for me is just trash ... I haven't done much of LE endgame, but i have no doubt that it's just another grind, but at least i can do it with more than one class and find it enjoyable.

D4 deosn't punish you for skill respec and LE sorta slaps your hand for skill respec and gets annoying cause you lose a level and have to grind the exp back again. Still better than PoE by a millenia.

I do not mean leveling respec, i mean skills you use to unalive things like fireball.

[mapron]

D4 is better in UI, D4 combat is more rich, there is more variety to combat AI and monsters are more unique. Music in D4 is 100 steps above LE too. LE combat is a bit of a miss (even though skills are more rich). If you want better monsters, go for D4, otherwise LE is much better in every aspect. (I love both games btw, no trolling)
If you want to pick game to play it once, D4 can be a contender; if you want to focus on endgame grind, D4 is no-go, avoid it!

[FakeChiBlast]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Chronz:

Anything is better than D4.

D4 was truly boring and generic combat. Story good, the rest was whatever. I played tons of D2 and D3, couldn't get into D4 at all.

[FakeChiBlast]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย SgtFopper™:

My decision is clear. I will buy the game at 1.0 release tomorrow. Lookimg forward to it! :happy:

not sure if you still have time, but it no for a pre-release little cosmetic pet :P

[Peeto]

Definitely BOTH

[Weird Potato]

There are no valid reasons to choose Diablo 4 over Last Epoch. Diablo 4 is awful : /. Sad but true.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Peeto:

Definitely BOTH

Ignore this guy lol

[All Day I Dream About🪓]

To me D4 excels in terms of visuals, sound design, animations and physicality of combat. Also I can easily switch and play on either Steam Deck or console with cross-platform/cross-play system and even play it in couch coop with family on console. There is no better feeling than charging my barb into a group of enemies previously frozen by my wife’s ice sorc. See them shatter to pieces, debris flying in all directions. Each character feels distinct. Barb feels very gory and physical, turning demons into paste, hurling their pieces across the map while sorc feels more ‘magical’ - disintegrating, freezing and burning enemies to the bone. It might not be as important to many players, but it’s worth mentioning that D4 features more character customization than any other ARPGs. Characters are not gender-locked and you have freedom to pick any skin color, face presets, haircuts, hair color and tattoos. While a lot of people bash the game for paid cosmetics, it features plenty of highly detailed base armor sets that can be unlocked just by playing the game and game has transmorg feature. Not sure if this feature will be available in LE 1.0. Also what really helped me to enjoy D4 even more - is the fact that I abandoned “look up meta-builds” mentally I picked up in PoE. I just pick whatever skills I like and try to make them work together in synergy with each other. So far I am on my 5th char and can say that each plays differently from another and they all are equally strong and fun to play. For example with my rogue I would fire rain of arrows into huge group of enemies with some elites and follow it with dash cutting right in the middle of the crowd, charge rapid fire with shadow imbue and shoot them point blank causing arrows to ricochet into everything around - decimating crowd in seconds, see whole screen covered in shadow explosions and arrows. Really satisfying.

Now speaking of the endgame, it might not have as much depth as any other competitors. It might get tedious to run nightmare dungeons and collect crafting materials in helltides. But then again all ARPGs have repetition at the core and you just play these games for the sake of slaying monsters over and over again. Running same maps either those would be nightmare dungeons, atlas maps, greater rifts or shattered realms. However D4 would definitely benefit from more maps, various modifiers, monster and boss variety. Hopefully devs will broaden it with feature updates.

As for itemization, it definitely feels rough and becomes tedious checking stats on each item. And this is where LE excels - crafting system and the process of rolling affixes on the item is really good in LE. Also loot filters in LE will be a big plus comparing to D4.

I played LE beta and somewhat liked it. Really interesting to see every skill having its own tree, similar to combining gems in PoE or stacking skill modifiers in Wolcen, but even more straightforward and coherent actually. Each class having an option to pick one of the three subclasses to further specialize in some specific class mechanics and types of damage. Reminded me of Grim Dawn, only in Grim Dawn you can combine any of two classes (ex. soldier with necro or shaman with pyromancer).

Overall I am looking forward to 1.0 for LE. I feel like each game has their own strengths and weaknesses and don’t see any reasons for them not to be able to coexist with one another.

[Tyr Wulfram]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Laokon:

Stop supporting Blizzard, the 65 dollar ingame mount is more expensive than the game itself.
That should tell you everything.
I loved blizzard for 20 years but they died a while ago.

If you are going to criticize something get all your facts right. You get the mount and 7000 platinum which is greater than what you get for the $50 for 5700 platinum. Now I know why you are a LE sheep. You watch your content creator bait that just highlights $65 mount and none of the people who cover it also say you get the 7000 platinum. I hate people who make me defend that trash game that is called D4 but all you sheep thinking that LE is the greatest thing ever is cringe af. OP should get Grim Dawn, it has no micro-transactions shoved in your face like LE and D4.