Soul Fire Bastion is Hot Garbage

[Nemesis]

Literally 1-shot death every time from necrotic construct in level III. Maxed out resistances across the board, 2k ward, 1 k health pool with 4 percent leech from elemental damage. Cake walk through everything for random amount of time, then kill screen. Type Necrotic. Just entirely not fun. No lesson learned, as all resistances are capped, I am 95, I have already mentioned ward, health, and leech. It is supposed to be for level 92 - really? I could keep the dungeon shield on Necrotic all the time, but then die to fire, switching is great when you can see the enemy, but half of the deaths are from being engaged off screen, so nothing there. The real answer would be to figure out how your dungeon works, to correctly scale the damage. Don't mind a challenge, but I have no issues 99 percent of the time, then 1-shot. It is a just a lazy mechanic. Either balance the game so it is more challenging the majority of the time and lose the 1-shot crap, or make everything 1-shot you any time you allow yourself to be hit, for those who enjoy punishment for no reason. However leaving it this current, no challenge until 1-shot, is just lazy garbage.

[Ravenkid9266]

The source may change but 99% of the difficulty in LE is learning to navigate the one shots. EHG continues to cling to this "design choice" so it is unlikely to change, so the best way is to learn how to go about avoiding it.

2K ward is nothing, if you are going ward you need to get that number way way higher, 20-30K is what you are looking for as an entry amount if not 60K+.

1K health is also low, however only because your ward is low.

Resistances do not actually reduce damage this entire category can be skipped if you get your ward number up. Noticing a trend?

Leech is not useful for staying alive, because of the one shot "design" it has fringe uses as a generator for specific builds though. Noticing a trend?

If you want to survive there are two broad ways to go about it, stack ward and tank it, avoid it.

For this specific situation if you want to avoid the one shots you need to use the dungeon gimmick and spin your shield, or just go ward. This applies to the rest of the game just swap out "spin your shield" with "don't stand in bad'.

If I had to guess I would say you are spending the majority of your character resources on damage, and that is why your numbers are so low, you need far less damage then you think to progress, consider ward or DR if your class allows for it.

[Tyyne]

Your HP and ward are both very low. Work on getting those up.

[MustardTiger]

Having the game super easy until an occasional 1-shotter might not be the best design, but removing the 1-shotters would remove ALL challenge from the game. Your ward is low, your hp is low, you lack skill.

[Bludbonez]

Originally posted by Tyyne:

Your HP and ward are both very low. Work on getting those up.

I agree with you completely.

[Bludbonez]

Originally posted by Nemesis:

Literally 1-shot death every time from necrotic construct in level III. Maxed out resistances across the board, 2k ward, 1 k health pool with 4 percent leech from elemental damage. Cake walk through everything for random amount of time, then kill screen. Type Necrotic. Just entirely not fun. No lesson learned, as all resistances are capped, I am 95, I have already mentioned ward, health, and leech. It is supposed to be for level 92 - really? I could keep the dungeon shield on Necrotic all the time, but then die to fire, switching is great when you can see the enemy, but half of the deaths are from being engaged off screen, so nothing there. The real answer would be to figure out how your dungeon works, to correctly scale the damage. Don't mind a challenge, but I have no issues 99 percent of the time, then 1-shot. It is a just a lazy mechanic. Either balance the game so it is more challenging the majority of the time and lose the 1-shot crap, or make everything 1-shot you any time you allow yourself to be hit, for those who enjoy punishment for no reason. However leaving it this current, no challenge until 1-shot, is just lazy garbage.

If you are running 2k Ward in T3 Bastion. That is a problem. Heck that is a problem in empowered monos and most likely a T2 Bastion.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by MustardTiger:

Your ward is low, your hp is low, you lack skill.

Love this. So apparently, you equate having skill to having gear. Also, you make judgments without bothering to refute existing fact, i.e., your opinion = worthless. At least the others bothered to post helpful information. I have a job, home, and family to care for, thus I have not the time invested to get the gear required to support the numbers the others spoke of. It is tripping me out, as I can only surmise the hours they devoted to get there. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to bust on my skill level you great god of gaming. I am sure you do dodge attacks you cannot see with the greatest of ease. I am also sure someone is sending you a medal for it as I type this. Don't worry though - just because I find your opinion to be worthless, doesn't mean there isn't someone else out there that loves armchair narcissists.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Bludbonez:

Originally posted by Nemesis:

Literally 1-shot death every time from necrotic construct in level III. Maxed out resistances across the board, 2k ward, 1 k health pool with 4 percent leech from elemental damage. Cake walk through everything for random amount of time, then kill screen. Type Necrotic. Just entirely not fun. No lesson learned, as all resistances are capped, I am 95, I have already mentioned ward, health, and leech. It is supposed to be for level 92 - really? I could keep the dungeon shield on Necrotic all the time, but then die to fire, switching is great when you can see the enemy, but half of the deaths are from being engaged off screen, so nothing there. The real answer would be to figure out how your dungeon works, to correctly scale the damage. Don't mind a challenge, but I have no issues 99 percent of the time, then 1-shot. It is a just a lazy mechanic. Either balance the game so it is more challenging the majority of the time and lose the 1-shot crap, or make everything 1-shot you any time you allow yourself to be hit, for those who enjoy punishment for no reason. However leaving it this current, no challenge until 1-shot, is just lazy garbage.

If you are running 2k Ward in T3 Bastion. That is a problem. Heck that is a problem in empowered monos and most likely a T2 Bastion.

Thanks Blud. I have never gotten the gear to support anything above that. This was my first character and did not play him enough to get gear to improve upon those numbers. Playing a Necro this cycle, hopefully I can get the gear I need this time around.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:

The source may change but 99% of the difficulty in LE is learning to navigate the one shots. EHG continues to cling to this "design choice" so it is unlikely to change, so the best way is to learn how to go about avoiding it.

2K ward is nothing, if you are going ward you need to get that number way way higher, 20-30K is what you are looking for as an entry amount if not 60K+.

1K health is also low, however only because your ward is low.

Resistances do not actually reduce damage this entire category can be skipped if you get your ward number up. Noticing a trend?

Leech is not useful for staying alive, because of the one shot "design" it has fringe uses as a generator for specific builds though. Noticing a trend?

If you want to survive there are two broad ways to go about it, stack ward and tank it, avoid it.

For this specific situation if you want to avoid the one shots you need to use the dungeon gimmick and spin your shield, or just go ward. This applies to the rest of the game just swap out "spin your shield" with "don't stand in bad'.

If I had to guess I would say you are spending the majority of your character resources on damage, and that is why your numbers are so low, you need far less damage then you think to progress, consider ward or DR if your class allows for it.

Thanks Raven. You are not wrong, I was focusing on damage - I guess I will focus on defense with my Necro in this cycle.

[azurember1990]

Originally posted by Nemesis:

Originally posted by MustardTiger:

Your ward is low, your hp is low, you lack skill.

Love this. So apparently, you equate having skill to having gear. Also, you make judgments without bothering to refute existing fact, i.e., your opinion = worthless. At least the others bothered to post helpful information. I have a job, home, and family to care for, thus I have not the time invested to get the gear required to support the numbers the others spoke of. It is tripping me out, as I can only surmise the hours they devoted to get there. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to bust on my skill level you great god of gaming. I am sure you do dodge attacks you cannot see with the greatest of ease. I am also sure someone is sending you a medal for it as I type this. Don't worry though - just because I find your opinion to be worthless, doesn't mean there isn't someone else out there that loves armchair narcissists.

Bro, don't get it twisted, the point was it's either one of those not necessarily all of them. If you can't compensate with your gear, you'll have to learn the mechanics(what can't hit you, won't kill you). Those three factors pretty much sums it up, once you get to a point where you're geared up enough to take a hit then you can relax a bit more, but until then, if you want to do stuff that your gear can't take yet, you'll have to learn the mechanics. There was nothing condescending about what he said, blunt, but not condescending.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Tyyne:

Your HP and ward are both very low. Work on getting those up.

Thanks Tyyne. I will take your advice this cycle - everyone else that posted a good comment (no, not you MT) agreed with you, so you cannot be wrong.

[ಠ_ಠ]

Originally posted by Nemesis:

Originally posted by MustardTiger:

Your ward is low, your hp is low, you lack skill.

Love this. So apparently, you equate having skill to having gear. Also, you make judgments without bothering to refute existing fact, i.e., your opinion = worthless. At least the others bothered to post helpful information. I have a job, home, and family to care for, thus I have not the time invested to get the gear required to support the numbers the others spoke of. It is tripping me out, as I can only surmise the hours they devoted to get there. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to bust on my skill level you great god of gaming. I am sure you do dodge attacks you cannot see with the greatest of ease. I am also sure someone is sending you a medal for it as I type this. Don't worry though - just because I find your opinion to be worthless, doesn't mean there isn't someone else out there that loves armchair narcissists.

Just because you find their opinion worthless doesn't mean they are wrong. For one, in the Bastion, you can always switch between fire and necrotic immunity as long as you have souls. For another, building properly for endgame content doesn't require endless grinding for equipment. You can go far with normal equipment and with properly chosen affixes.

As for not being able to see the attacks, they literally drop a gigantic circle on the ground to let you know you are about to be nuked. I've died to it too. I'm comfortable admitting it's a skill and knowledge issue.



Either way, ARPGs generally aren't the best for gaming on a limited time budget. If you want an ARPG, but don't want to shovel away hours upon hours, I'd suggest Chronicon. Fun, but it has systems to mostly eliminate the grind (like unlimited re-rolls for crafting affixes, being able to easily gamble into any end-game set / unique items, stuff like that).

[Koala 4peace]

Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:

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What about classes that don't have easy access to ward, by the way?

[Koala 4peace]

Originally posted by MustardTiger:

Having the game super easy until an occasional 1-shotter might not be the best design, but removing the 1-shotters would remove ALL challenge from the game.

I rather have a challenge all the way and gear, passives, etc still be useful against kamehamehas, but i guess that boat shipped long ago.

[Athos42]

I have to say that this one-shotting is also pushing me away. I had a breeze of the game, died sometimes because of my own faults but that was OK, until I met Lagon and was one-shotted. This one-shot-mechanism is with all bosses, making them extremely stressful and unfunny to fight for me because you have to concentrate fully and a mistake forces you to do it all over again. Also the reason why I won't do dungeons... playing for a good amount of time just to get one try at the endboss and that's it.... not my kind of game. Grim Dawn also has this nonsense mechanism in their endgame dungeons, but I just don't have time for that. If I want roguelite, I play a roguelite game, such as Vampire Survivors or Deep Rock Galactic Survivors.

[Psojed]

Originally posted by Koala 4peace:

Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:

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What about classes that don't have easy access to ward, by the way?

His numbers are way off. The reason for that is that he lives in the past. 60k Ward isn't real after Cycle 1.1 :)

Anyway, you can do it with Health builds just fine. For example, here's a Beastmaster with squirrels.
lvl 92 Soulfire Bastion starts at 1:56:14
bossfight starts at 2:05:08

https://youtu.be/gVOtHSWY0IU?t=6974