Last Epoch

Last Epoch

FOXDUDE69 Apr 19 @ 4:15am
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Why do PoE fans feel so threatened by this game?
Why do PoE fans feel so threatened by this game?
The Diablo and Grim Dawn bros either don't care or they are playing it alsongside us.
But the PoE people... Why are they so salty?
Any theories?
Last edited by FOXDUDE69; Apr 19 @ 4:16am
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Morail Apr 19 @ 7:47am 
The question you should ask is: why is it that the Last Epoch community is always talking about PoE? It's true that the vast majority of LE players come from PoE, but why are y'll always talking about another game here?
Originally posted by Morail:
The question you should ask is: why is it that the Last Epoch community is always talking about PoE? It's true that the vast majority of LE players come from PoE, but why are y'll always talking about another game here?
ARPG enjoyers talking about ARPGs, what a surprise.
Cyrlan Apr 19 @ 7:54am 
PoE fanboyisms should be happy that Last Epoch is here, because without LE, PoE wouldn't be updating and make some improvements in the future if their only rival is the Diablo 4.
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Twitchy Apr 19 @ 8:10am 
They are nervous that the rabbits have the guns now.
geofruck Apr 19 @ 8:13am 
I don't think that it's that they feel threatened. I think a lot of them are psychologically damaged by PoE1/2. A lot of them are stockholmers, feeling the need to defend their abusers.

I've played a lot of both games, and it's a pretty twisted game, imho. Massive passive skill trees that offer the illusion of variety, but you can't really use it, because the game is always balanced to the latest OP metas, which for some reason seem to always exist. It's as if they don't know how to balance the game, but I don't think that's accurate.

Then there's the lack of loot, forcing people to go to the crappy trade site, which is the in for the ever-present RMTs. And, people know the RMTs are out there, so a lot end up using them, too. Then they get to strut around with their Meta/RMT'ed gear and talk "get good" and the like to people complaining about the problems they have when trying to play the game "as if" it were an actual ARPG. I think that's actually part of the power fantasy for them.

It's an illusion of an ARPG. There is a good game in there, but the devs seem to like to abuse their fans with crappy mechanics in the guise of a difficult game and they are never going to leave the ever-present "vision" to actually bring the fun game out of the corruption that they've created. For some reason, some people like to be abused, and that's the fan-base GGG will always attract.

That's how I see it. GGG has formed a business model based on masochistic people who like games. Whatever, I don't get those people, but they are by far the most toxic community I've ever experienced online. So, yeah, they're going to spread that toxicity wherever they care to. The whole situation is pretty sick, imho.
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Pluke89 Apr 19 @ 8:16am 
because poe community is salty and are other specie.they dont help other they just give comment & see it your self.thats how i think about them
Originally posted by Val:
Originally posted by Floaterz:
They don't?

Granted I speak for myself only and have been playing POE (1 and 2) and LE and don't feel threatened by LE.

Hell, the more competition the better, since it will make the games kick into high gear and bring much needed QoL.

Competition is healthy, and the lack of it WILL stagnate anything.
Not all of them do, clearly, but quite a few do.
you need help
Medicles Apr 19 @ 8:23am 
Dont listen to the PoE 2 community, many of them think they are playing a finished game and not a test version in Early Access.
Originally posted by FOXDUDE69:
Why do PoE fans feel so threatened by this game?
The Diablo and Grim Dawn bros either don't care or they are playing it alsongside us.
But the PoE people... Why are they so salty?
Any theories?

Its like asking why elden ring fans would be afraid of barby's island adventures. They dont, they are just mocking people who play it. I played LE last year on "release" for about 200 hours, was a nice game, somewhere between poe1 and diablo4. But last epoch with its crappy unity engine and average design has zero future. People where just bored last year. Now with poe2 everyone can see the quality and potential of ARPGS that is about to come, how a game can look ,sound a feel like. And because of that i could only last 20 min in last epoch this time, i made it from the character creator to the very first zone and quit, uninstalled + removed it from my live-games section in the steam library. Thats how pointless LE is in the market.

THey did nothing over 1 year and it really shows, it was already outdated when it launched and while i had fun.. well the bar today is just such higher and LE shouldnt be worth anyones time.

All the content creator just scam you. They are sponsored, thats it.
MrWitz Apr 19 @ 8:33am 
Yeah I've wondered this too. PoE player base is just..... Different.

My favorite arpg is Grim Dawn, and I invest heavily in the community leagues we run. But I'm having an absolute blast laying LE right now. Then again, I'm also an old man, father of 4, so I probably have more patience than the average POE player.
Originally posted by FOXDUDE69:
Originally posted by CymTyr:
Most of the Diablo crowd is over the age of 40.
Nah man, the crowd that played D2 went to PoE after D3.
The crowd playing D4 is a mix of younger and older people. Much like most ARPGs.
What I'm saying is, you can't put this down to age, it's something else.

It is something else. I rank them on a scale of "casualness":

D4 is the most casual game both in the campaign and end-game, as its zoomy, simplistic in its build trees and even non-competitive, casual players can get to end game content. Fights are pretty easy, and consequences for poor decisions are pretty light.

LE plays like a casual game throughout the campaign, but has more depth in its skill choices and the challenge in the end game ramps up to where more advanced strategies and skill synergies make a significant difference in your ability.

POE is similar to the above, where you can be pretty casual and still manage the campaign, but the difficulty scales up beyond the campaign where researching best builds, understanding a complex (and random) crafting system, all matter in your ability to progress further.

POE2 is non-casual, period. Fights are slower, more mechanical, and less forgiving. Loot/upgrades are harder to come by (to the point that every online guide recommends checking the vendors at each level for purchasable upgrades, wow, that sounds fun). Its certainly the "hardest" of the games, although I feel thats almost a byproduct of a lack of loot (aka rewards) than it is the fights themselves.

If you're mentality is about measuring your e-peen, then POE2 is your game. As that game is completely non-tolerant of mediocre players. Otherwise, D4, LE, and POE1 are pretty similar for the 'casual' player and I would expect to see a significant migration of players through those games as they each come out with a new season.
Skeletor Apr 19 @ 9:05am 
I think Last Epoch brings the necessary time off to those who are burned out of POE1 and disappointed with the direction POE2 is taking. Also because the MTX are affordable and not insulting. Last Epoch deserves love and respect and praise since this is exactly what the devs give the players, and the opposite of what GGG is doing with POE1/2 now.

At least, it’s not blizzard and D4..
Laserbees Apr 19 @ 9:10am 
because society is broken and people cling to literally anything for a sense of tribalism and belonging
LSD Apr 19 @ 9:15am 
Because in general Poe's community is toxic.
Why do people not understand that competition among games is a good thing?
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