Last Epoch is just baby’s first ARPG, and that's okay.

[𝕊𝕃𝕊𝔸𝕄𝔾♔]

But let's not pretend It’s competing with POE2... LE fangirls love to parade around their deterministic crafting like it’s revolutionary. Spoiler: it’s training wheels. No risk, no thrill, no meaningful loot hunt. Just press button, get item. At some point you realize the game plays more like a spreadsheet simulator with flashy effects than a real ARPG grindfest.

The skill system? Cool on paper, but 90% of those nodes are "+x% damage" or "this skill but cold now." Meanwhile, POE2 is out here rewriting how abilities interact on a fundamental level. You’re building engines. In Last Epoch, you’re just rearranging the same IKEA parts into slightly different shelves. Monoliths feel like a procedurally generated chore chart. No stakes, no narrative, no chaos. Contrast that with POE’s maps, league mechanics, bosses that actually matter, and the absurd sandbox of insanity POE2 is shaping up to be.

Let’s face it: Last Epoch is a great entry-level game. It’s digestible, rudimentary, and won’t hurt your feelings. But if you’re looking for complexity, real buildcrafting, or that "I might’ve accidentally made a god-tier abomination" moment? That’s POE2 territory. Last Epoch isn’t the future of ARPGs. It’s a polished detour. And when POE2 drops? It’s going to be the main road again, twisting, brutal, glorious. GGG is cooking up something revolutionary.

Hope that helps :)





EDIT #1

I'm unsubbing from this thread, as continued participation appears counterproductive due to the presence of delusional fangirls engaging in demonstrably bad faith discourse, seemingly aimed at invalidating rather than constructively engaging with alternative viewpoints.

[CitizenKing]

tl;dr

[𝕊𝕃𝕊𝔸𝕄𝔾♔]

Originally posted by CitizenKing:

tl;dr

Is there a problem? Perhaps it fails to appeal to your attention span, frayed by Adderall and constant overstimulation? Must everything be reduced to a five-second soundbite to hold your interest?

[Havok]

Thats why LE has 25k more players than POE2 right now right?

Anyway, cry, cope, mald and rage harder my guy.

[Jet Uppercut]

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕃𝕊𝔸𝕄𝔾♔:

No risk, no thrill, no meaningful loot

Sure sounds like POE2 to me.

[Beltyra]

Im sorry someone criticized your sacred cow once.

[tiamats4esgares]

Originally posted by Havok:

Thats why LE has 25k more players than POE2 right now right?

Anyway, cry, cope, mald and rage harder my guy.

hehe.

He's just a troll seeking clowns

[𝕊𝕃𝕊𝔸𝕄𝔾♔]

Originally posted by Havok:

Thats why LE has 25k more players than POE2 right now right?

Anyway, cry, cope, mald and rage harder my guy.

Right... Last Epoch, the fast food of ARPGs. Enjoy your microwaved mechanics and participation trophies while the grownups wait for cuisine that isn’t still in beta diapers. But hey, it’s cute that you think popularity equals quality. TikTok has billions of users too, doesn’t make it high art, champ.

And in case it slipped past your radar and basic gaming literacy, POE2 is still in early access, you absolute melt.

[Havok]

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕃𝕊𝔸𝕄𝔾♔:

Originally posted by Havok:

Thats why LE has 25k more players than POE2 right now right?

Anyway, cry, cope, mald and rage harder my guy.

And in case it slipped past your radar and basic gaming literacy, POE2 is still in early access, you absolute melt.

In case it slipped past your radar and basic gaming literacy, POE2 has been worked on for over a decade in POE1, so its not an achievement to release an early access game and have it be in the state with a development team that has already done this for 10+ years.

Keep trying though!

You must be enjoying POE2 so much that you're over here in another games forums malding right? Jeez, LE living rent free in your head ain't it champ? That's why the season died in 2 weeks, must be so much fun!

[Shredon]

I hope things get better for you in life.

[Havok]

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕃𝕊𝔸𝕄𝔾♔:

Originally posted by Shredon:

I hope things get better for you in life.

Sure, here's a more snarky, simplified version:


Oh, is this what we're doing now? Projecting and jumping straight to random accusations? Don't worry, my life’s pretty cushy compared to most that are struggling. No need for your concern, really.

Go back and enjoy "the vision" then ;)
https://youtu.be/MBAnK5XukQc?si=Ov9mVzjPTLp-t0-K

[𝕊𝕃𝕊𝔸𝕄𝔾♔]

Originally posted by Shredon:

I hope things get better for you in life.

Oh, is this what we're doing now? Projecting and jumping straight to random accusations? Don't worry, pal, my life’s pretty cushy compared to most. No need for your concern, really...

[SunEarthMewsic]

So let me get this straight.

1. Start off sounding high and mighty
2. When you don't get the reactions you expected, proceed to insult as though you're the only smart human on the planet
3. At its peak, when Path of Exile 2 had 500k concurrent players, while in early access, people bragged about the high numbers, but at this specific moment in time, while LE has 33% more current players than PoE2, which is in a bad state, you decide to find something else to insult people with, because you can't hide behind the numbers.

So your general tactic is to insult as much as you can, while "pretending" to sound smart.

--

To answer your other questions in an objective sense.

1. if given the choice between spending 1000 hours waiting for RNG loot, compared to 100 hours to fine tune deterministic crafting, I'd rather have 100 enjoys I enjoy compared to 1000 hours of meaningless grind.

The hunt is important, but getting the stats you want is what compels people to build strong gear.

2. "Blah blah blah X game is so mediocore with x feature, while my favored biased Y game is fantastic and an innovation killer with generic y feature"

if that's your entire argument, it's really weak. Some people prefer x feature while others prefer y feature. What's your point? your the authority on what makes a mechanic or feature good? How about if someone else simply has different taste to you? And they find that objectively, your taste is inferior?

3. The skill system you mock is ironically built into path of exile 2 as well. if you did a little more thinking, you wouldn't have insulted the game you're biased about.

4. you say LE end game systems are procedurally generated, boring pieces of turd, but that's literally every map in path of exile 2. They're all procedurally generated.

[Rauf]

lets face it if they keep going with the VISION like 0.2 another arpg will takeover the throne

[Havok]

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕃𝕊𝔸𝕄𝔾♔:

Originally posted by Havok:

In case it slipped past your radar and basic gaming literacy, POE2 has been worked on for over a decade in POE1, so its not an achievement to release an early access game and have it be in the state with a development team that has already done this for 10+ years.

Keep trying though!

You must be enjoying POE2 so much that you're over here in another games forums malding right? Jeez, LE living rent free in your head ain't it champ? That's why the season died in 2 weeks, must be so much fun!

Every accusation is a confession. No, you cringe-ass-kissless-incel, you're projecting hard with those trigger-happy, cheeto-stained fingertips.

Originally posted by 𝕊𝕃𝕊𝔸𝕄𝔾♔:

Every accusation is a confession.

Ah, so you're just describing yourself right now as you lose your ragebaiting troll to logic?

[ttv/Hempocratys]

I think there is something to be said about how, if you don't enjoy something, then just move on with your life. If you have constructive criticism, rather than comparative, you might have more of a chance to not sound like a POE Elitist, which, if i'm being transparent, there's way too many of them. I have played POE 1 since it had terrible reviews, and was played by a small, dedicated crew of players. I've quite literally been here throughout all of the modern era of ARPGs, and they are all different, and have audiences that want them, why is it though, that the current POE 1/2 communities are insistent on making it seem like the most miserable place on earth to be a fan. The game already scares off everyone with an actual life, let alone having its bloodthirsty hunting hounds of a community, wanting to go out and shoot down any other ARPG. This is coming from someone with several thousand hours on the OG PC client, a thousand more on Console, and the almost 300 hours I have on steam, which is only that low, due to people like you making POE a miserable experience to play.

Please. Stick to your own little sad neck of the woods, you're blocking out the sun for the people actually enjoying their lives.