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I reported it as a bug on the LE forums: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/tp-back-to-cleared-area-results-in-enemies-immediately-spawning-on-top-of-me/57614
I do not know about this shift in design. I am not saying that the developer is wrong, but I think it is an unintended result of a planned design feature.
See back in the day map permanence was a bug, then it got rolled into a feature. It is likely that the respawn is tied to that. It seems that when you "return" you are going to a new instance of that map, and that is intended. So the respawn is likely tied to that "feature" even if unintended.
I also know they are working on some sort of grace period to stop people from dying due to latency when loading a map instance. So it seems there are more wheels in motion then it would at first appear.
"Shouldn't be selling loot anyway as its pointless"
And not once did this strike them as odd advice to be giving people in an ARPG literally built on that gameplay loop of filling your backpack then returning to town.
Yea, that is why I was so confused.
This sounds like a shift in design, because maps havent had permanence so either the dev misunderstood or something changed.
You keep repeating that in multiple threads. Can you point me to a forums post or something else where the devs confirm this? I'm not saying you're wrong or anything. I just want to read it myself. Thanks in advance!
Honestly, I do not have a link to provide you. Rodhull likely knows more on this subject then I do. Having said that a quick bit of googlefu revealed on the official forums multiple recent bug reports about maps refreshing and multiple users and developers stating that it is not a bug.
However if you go back years, you will find posts from developers acknowledging that maps resetting is unintended and will be fixed.
Part of the problem is how EHG dolls out information. What would be a major announcement for any other studio plastered everywhere, EHG dolls out in random reddit post replies, or on the discord, the official forum, tucked away in a content creator interview, or a developer stream, or even a stream with a LE content creator. This makes it very hard to keep links direct quotes.
What I can tell you is I have been here for quite sometime, and as you say posted this statement multiple times, however this is the first time someone has asked for a direct quote, so give me a bit to googlefu back years of developer posts.
Edit: A quick search pulled up this quote from Sarno (Dev tag)
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/item-map-reset-on-using-personal-portal/11626/5
"This is a known technical limitation which will be resolved in a future update. I can’t yet offer an ETA for when zone persistence will be improved, however it is on our radar." Apr 2019
A steam search found: the quote "This is a technical limitation that should be resolved with patch 0.9 (multiplayer)." Jan 2022
I also snagged a quote
https://steamcommunity.com/app/899770/discussions/0/3193615072220855058/#c3193615072221576152
"Just for the record, we know exactly how to fix the zone respawning problem. We’ve had a plan in place for it for years that is still going to work well." Jan 2022
As well as: "Currently, almost nothing about the 'world state' is saved as you travel from one area to the next. The system that will resolve this is coming alongside multiplayer when it releases sometime this year" May 2021
Now we have established that it is, as for the removal well its not here and not on the road map not on what they are working on despite the MP patch. I guess we just have to either cross our fingers that the developers are keeping it a secret for some reason or point to the other features they promised on their kick starter and quietly removed from the road map. If you are asking for some post I could link to with a mea culpa from the developers about the removal of features I do no think it is a realistic ask.
Edit2: found my old notepad doc with a dead reddit link dated Dec 2022 with what I copied, take it at your own value: "Town portal resets the area?" User Ekimarcher (EHG team tag) "Yes, that's how it works"
Edit3: Found on Steam by user EHG_Kain https://steamcommunity.com/app/899770/discussions/0/5764050278033♥♥♥♥57/
"It is intentional that when you leave a scene (instance) that the scene resets. The Fog of War returning is not intentional and is a known bug which we are internally tracking, though has been low priority. " Mar 2022
As well as this reply from EHG_Kain when asked about maps resetting: (He rambles a bit so I chopped up the relevant part in longer quotes for context but link provided.)
https://steamcommunity.com/app/899770/discussions/0/3416556480600150312/
"I don't think it's very surprising that there's many reasons for a particular thing to happen, and that some of those are beneficial, and that we would acknowledge those beneficial aspects as well."
"In standard gameplay, leaving and re-visiting a zone is very uncommon. "Vendor runs" are disincentivized in Last Epoch, as we want players to be out there playing the game, killing mobs not sitting in town talking to vendors as their gameplay experience. As such, items are set to sell for extremely little gold so players don't feel any need to keep portalling to town to sell items. Quests also don't regularly have players re-visiting the same zone. In standard gameplay, the only common events we expect a particular zone should be revisited is if a player needs to portal to town to go AFK for a while, or has left the game and come back to it, or with the monolith of Fate reward zone."
2019- maps resetting is a bug due to technical limitations.
2022 Jan- we know exactly what the problem is and have a plan in place for years.
2022 Mar- It is intentional.
So from Jan 2022 it was not intended but they had a plan in place for years, then in Mar 2022 it is Intentional.
Seems like a bug got rolled into a feature to me.
There is really zero need to EVER portal back to town through the whole campaign.
Stuff sells for next to 0 gold for exact the reason of making going back to town obsolet.
Seems to be of relevance to the OP, as well as any number of users who have brought up the subject here, on reddit, and the official forums. Speaking of relevance, I was asked to provide any official statements on the subject, and have done so. If it is of no important to you that is fine if it is that is also fine, I was not taking a position on it being good or bad or purple simply provided the requested information about what is. The value of the subject is up to you to decide, and has no bearing on the requested information I provided.