Higher price? WTF

[Traumaturgy]

So i was interested in this game for some time, but always thought price was too high for this kind of early access title, about 30 dollars when converted to my currency. So i was patiently waiting for a sale, but now i see it costs even more, that is 35$. What the hell? Instead of sale you raise the price?
Good luck with that, especially when D4 and PoE2 are coming.
Removed from wishlist, i dont support ridiculous and out of touch greedy publishers.

[Grayscale]

OMG, I just realized the new price.

[andrew.thiele]

The price is still $34.99 USD for the game. I assume EHG is using Steam's recommended regional pricing, which was recently updated, so any increases to the price in your region would be because of changes in exchange rates.

https://steamdb.info/blog/valve-price-matrix-2022-update/

[ling.speed]

Originally posted by Traumaturgy:

Good luck with that, especially when D4 and PoE2 are coming.

Thanks for the kind words! LE is in the big leagues now.

Originally posted by Traumaturgy:

i dont support ridiculous and out of touch greedy publishers.

Yes! every expanding buissness should offer lower prices over time as they add more value to the purchase. (thats some serious commie logic right there)

[Keukenzout]

This game is worth maybe 5 max 10 bucks, for example, go play undecember which is free, got more content already and is so much better. And who wanna wait for a single update untill their hair turn gray for the amazing amount of 34,99, i wonder. This price is even higher than grim dawn which started out also free.

[Kior]

Logged into Steam. The price has risen ... I'll wait or I won't buy at all.

[Stalker]

Originally posted by Kior:

Logged into Steam. The price has risen ... I'll wait or I won't buy at all.

Yep.

[»NoNick«]

Originally posted by Kior:

Logged into Steam. The price has risen ... I'll wait or I won't buy at all.

That's right.

[DioMeD22]

“Our price won't be changing when Last Epoch leaves Early Access. Supporting now lets your voice shape the design of the game, and earns you exclusive in-game cosmetics.”
Meh, that was a lie. Outta wishlist now then.

[Yukkipedia]

Originally posted by DioMeD22:

“Our price won't be changing when Last Epoch leaves Early Access. Supporting now lets your voice shape the design of the game, and earns you exclusive in-game cosmetics.”
Meh, that was a lie. Outta wishlist now then.

You do realize last epoch have nothing to do with the price change right ? It's steam currency conversion that changed

[Traumaturgy]

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Thanks for the kind words! LE is in the big leagues now.

I dont know if its in big league, but its the same genre as Diablo and Poe. Diablo has better production value, and Poe has huge content and is free. So to compete with their newest titles LE needs to be good and cheap. And its not cheap.

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Yes! every expanding buissness should offer lower prices over time as they add more value to the purchase. (thats some serious commie logic right there)

They dont live in vacuum, they live on steam. Steam is full of games that compete with each other, also by price. Noone is buying overpriced games, but these games sell more when they go on sale.
I dont remeber this game being on sale, ever. And now its even more expensive which totally kills my desire to endlessly wait to play it.
It may be against your businessman logic, but I think publisher would rather sell this game for 40-50% less than not sell it at all. Or maybe not, maybe pride is bigger than wanting my money, maybe they want full 35$ or 0. I choose 0 then.
Also i dont care if they add new content and want more money, they chose EA model, they took people's money and they are obliged to add new content they promised.

Originally posted by andrew.thiele:

The price is still $34.99 USD for the game. I assume EHG is using Steam's recommended regional pricing, which was recently updated, so any increases to the price in your region would be because of changes in exchange rates.

https://steamdb.info/blog/valve-price-matrix-2022-update/

Yes, this must be the reason prices are higher. I checked $34.99 USD price for my currency and its raise from 124,99 to 161,99, which is exactly how it costs now.
This is 30% raise which is huge, almost 1/3 more. But thats not the real shocker- in some countries prices are higher by 60%, 70%, or 100%. Holy bazinga, in Turkey there is +470% raise, in Argentina +515%.
These are just steam recommendations and developers can choose price however they want. But many of these countries are poor countries, or countries at conflict (Ukrainian Hryvna price 429 to 700 which is +63%). So how Steam and publishers expect people to pay more?
This is madness, prices were high already, now they are unbearable.
If publishers update everything according to this chart i will stop buying new games.

[DioMeD22]

Originally posted by Yukkipedia:

Originally posted by DioMeD22:

“Our price won't be changing when Last Epoch leaves Early Access. Supporting now lets your voice shape the design of the game, and earns you exclusive in-game cosmetics.”
Meh, that was a lie. Outta wishlist now then.

You do realize last epoch have nothing to do with the price change right ? It's steam currency conversion that changed

The process is not automatic, you have to manually change every game's price. Someone change prices, someone don't. Last Epoch devs did, even though they said they won't

[Seppä]

Originally posted by Keukenzout:

This game is worth maybe 5 max 10 bucks, for example, go play undecember which is free, got more content already and is so much better. And who wanna wait for a single update untill their hair turn gray for the amazing amount of 34,99, i wonder. This price is even higher than grim dawn which started out also free.

Uninstalldecember not worth playing even for free lol.

[BackToBasix]

Circle jerk of morons here. Lmao.

[ling.speed]

Originally posted by Traumaturgy:

Originally posted by ling.speed:

Thanks for the kind words! LE is in the big leagues now.

I dont know if its in big league, but its the same genre as Diablo and Poe. Diablo has better production value, and Poe has huge content and is free. So to compete with their newest titles LE needs to be good and cheap. And its not cheap.

Jokes on you thou. Because thats literally what the devs say.

LE started from scratch, few dudes wanting wanting to make something cool and now they are compared to world class projects. If thats not amazing, idk what is.

It does not matter if booth D4 and PoE2 end up great, the arpg genre is as vast as FPS one. There is room for plenty more than 2 games. LE is not being made as player driven, like ie. survival games, that need all the players to succeed. I feel this all or nothing idea is coming from the need to play the "top dog", to follow the crowd. Is the argument really that low?

They dont live in vacuum, they live on steam. Steam is full of games that compete with each other, also by price. Noone is buying overpriced games, but these games sell more when they go on sale.
I dont remeber this game being on sale, ever. And now its even more expensive which totally kills my desire to endlessly wait to play it.

Exactly, and that why there were no sales. Because on steam you have one chance to make it big. For games with one fixed purchase, as long as you are not starved for money during development, it does not matter when you get that sale. So selling more copies earlier has the potential to harm more than help in this case.

Also i dont care if they add new content and want more money, they chose EA model, they took people's money and they are obliged to add new content they promised.

You are mistaking EA for kickstarter. Also whats the argument here? If you backed KS or bought EA earlier you are not required to pay the difference now... only people that buy after the price hike, and there are no "obligations" for EA, you get what you pay for. At best we can "gamble" on the game turning out good.

[Ravenkid9266]

Originally posted by ling.speed:

LE started from scratch, few dudes wanting wanting to make something cool and now they are compared to world class projects. If thats not amazing, idk what is.

Those few dudes managed to scuff even the most basic gameplay loop of the genre, in the get gear to get stronger to take on harder content. Those few dudes actually asked "what is the difference between bonus health and critical avoidance" Judging from your white knighting its clear that such basic concepts are also beyond you. Or to say you cant logic someone out of a position they did logic themselves into.

Just because its a small team in and of itself, does not make the product any good.