Last Epoch

Last Epoch

era of duping
era of duping is over or there are still lots of different type of dupes in the game?
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The patch hasn't been dropped yet, how do you expect people to find bugs/exploits in the 1.2 right now?
Last edited by NotxEevee; Apr 14 @ 4:20am
Originally posted by NotxEevee:
The patch hasn't been dropped yet, how do you expect people to find bugs/exploits in the 1.2 right now?
im talking about current "league" or whatever, if there are new dupes after fixing old one, that means they didnt fix the cause, meaning there will be more dupes in the future
Havok Apr 14 @ 4:38am 
Every arpg has dupes because people don’t know how to play without cheating. You’re speaking like POE and D4 don’t have a massive duping problem as well.
Psojed Apr 14 @ 7:18am 
No dupes in current league afaik, so the new league should be safe.
gazeofdisaster (Banned) Apr 14 @ 8:40am 
Duping? Not really. RMTing? Not really. Game is clean right now, how much longer it will remain so is a mystery.
Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
Duping? Not really. RMTing? Not really. Game is clean right now, how much longer it will remain so is a mystery.

A 2 second Google search pulls up plenty of RMT, so the question is are you just imagining or wishing for it?
gazeofdisaster (Banned) Apr 14 @ 9:03am 
Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:
Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
Duping? Not really. RMTing? Not really. Game is clean right now, how much longer it will remain so is a mystery.

A 2 second Google search pulls up plenty of RMT, so the question is are you just imagining or wishing for it?
IT doesn't occur as often as it is in the other games. I'm not imagining it, just declaring that it doesn't really have that problem, and even if it does you have to be in the merchants guild to experience it in the first place. The market in Last Epoch is arguably better than d4 and Poe1/PoE2 where players are almost expected to buy stuff from an RMT site.
Last edited by gazeofdisaster; Apr 14 @ 9:04am
Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:

A 2 second Google search pulls up plenty of RMT, so the question is are you just imagining or wishing for it?
IT doesn't occur as often as it is in the other games. I'm not imagining it, just declaring that it doesn't really have that problem, and even if it does you have to be in the merchants guild to experience it in the first place. The market in Last Epoch is arguably better than d4 and Poe1/PoE2 where players are almost expected to buy stuff from an RMT site.

So LE is robust enough to maintain all the RMT businesses, just what accidentally? You got anything backing up these claims?

But if RMT does happen it's OK because those trade players deserve it?
gazeofdisaster (Banned) Apr 14 @ 10:30am 
Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:
Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
IT doesn't occur as often as it is in the other games. I'm not imagining it, just declaring that it doesn't really have that problem, and even if it does you have to be in the merchants guild to experience it in the first place. The market in Last Epoch is arguably better than d4 and Poe1/PoE2 where players are almost expected to buy stuff from an RMT site.

So LE is robust enough to maintain all the RMT businesses, just what accidentally? You got anything backing up these claims?

But if RMT does happen it's OK because those trade players deserve it?
Not saying that. Im just telling you my experience. At least in Last Epoch you can choose to not play with that market. The other games economies are usually entirely ruined by RMT whereas I've seen the market be somewhat stable in LE - that is my observations. I have nothing to back it up besides my intuition and player experience.

Also RMT to me is a double edged sword. It's convenient for the players who have limited time to play and a hassle to deal with if you are a dedicated player. Either way, my point still stands. You being sour about it doesn't change my experience or my ability to share it.
Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:

So LE is robust enough to maintain all the RMT businesses, just what accidentally? You got anything backing up these claims?

But if RMT does happen it's OK because those trade players deserve it?
Not saying that. Im just telling you my experience.

Your experience? Have you looked for RMT? I have never been to the United States of America, but I know it exists, more importantly I would not try to spin my experience as to inflate a situation when a 2 second google search would cast question at best on my "experience".

Its strange we went from no RMT to some RMT but not enough to ruin the economy like RMT does in every other game in the entirety of ever because LE is somehow magically insulated against it.

You can like RMT, hate RMT, excuse some RMT, tolerate no RMT, but its still there your experiences notwithstanding.
gazeofdisaster (Banned) Apr 14 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:
Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
Not saying that. Im just telling you my experience.

Your experience? Have you looked for RMT? I have never been to the United States of America, but I know it exists, more importantly I would not try to spin my experience as to inflate a situation when a 2 second google search would cast question at best on my "experience".

Its strange we went from no RMT to some RMT but not enough to ruin the economy like RMT does in every other game in the entirety of ever because LE is somehow magically insulated against it.

You can like RMT, hate RMT, excuse some RMT, tolerate no RMT, but its still there your experiences notwithstanding.

It is still there, its not really an issue. Me saying Not really expresses that RMT is not really a problem with LE. The game is set up in a friendlier capacity that players don't feel the need to buy stuff from chinese farmer sites. Last epoch also makes it harder to larger transactions. It requires more steps than other games to RMT, and I believe it is punished more severely if found out players are doing it.

The market requires items to be listed 100m or you must prepare exalted for more than 100m and then you need favor which is collected by playing the game.

A lot different from the level 1 accounts with billions of gold on d4 or chaos orbs on PoE. Just saying.
Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
It is still there, its not really an issue.

Strange given

Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
RMTing? Not really. Game is clean right now, how much longer it will remain so is a mystery.

Given how other features like family sharing caught stray crossfire due to RMT I find your "experiences" difficult to comprehend.

RMT as a business leads to things like botting, duping, and account hacking because that is basic supply and demand, but somehow a "little" RMT is ok and that makes LE "clean"? I think you would have a better position if you said something like: There is some RMT but its not rampant yet, who knows with season 2 though season 1 did cause some problems though, and you can avoid it by not engaging with trade.
Last edited by Ravenkid9266; Apr 14 @ 11:29am
gazeofdisaster (Banned) Apr 14 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:
Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
It is still there, its not really an issue.

Strange given

Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
RMTing? Not really. Game is clean right now, how much longer it will remain so is a mystery.

Given how other features like family sharing caught stray crossfire due to RMT I find your "experiences" difficult to comprehend.

RMT as a business leads to things like botting, duping, and account hacking because that is basic supply and demand, but somehow a "little" RMT is ok and that makes LE "clean"? I think you would have a better position if you said something like: There is some RMT but its not rampant yet, who knows with season 2 though season 1 did cause some problems though, and you can avoid it by not engaging with trade.
Yeah, to be fair it wasn't even listed on most sites till rather recently. I didn't experience any issues in season 1, but then again I wasn't really partying with others. LE does have a leaderboard, but as stated players can CHOOSE to be involved in the market or not. In the other games that market is forced on the player to be involved in some capacity if you want to 'be good.'
Originally posted by gazeofdisaster:
Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:

Strange given



Given how other features like family sharing caught stray crossfire due to RMT I find your "experiences" difficult to comprehend.

RMT as a business leads to things like botting, duping, and account hacking because that is basic supply and demand, but somehow a "little" RMT is ok and that makes LE "clean"? I think you would have a better position if you said something like: There is some RMT but its not rampant yet, who knows with season 2 though season 1 did cause some problems though, and you can avoid it by not engaging with trade.
Yeah, to be fair it wasn't even listed on most sites till rather recently. I didn't experience any issues in season 1, but then again I wasn't really partying with others. LE does have a leaderboard, but as stated players can CHOOSE to be involved in the market or not. In the other games that market is forced on the player to be involved in some capacity if you want to 'be good.'

No RMT was an option available as soon as trade went live, I know because I continually pointed it out. I often brought up the quote from the developer mike about how the steps taken to avoid RMT were far fewer then people would believe, juxtaposed against all of the RMT sites that a quick google search pulled up.

If you want to discuss the impact, that is a bit beyond this topic though, generally I agree with you it is "opt in" however that does not make such a ToS violation acceptable either.
Rauf Apr 14 @ 11:46am 
just create a hardcore SSF character and say hc ssf btw in global chat to let these cheaters know whats up
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