"Give us campaign skip"

[A D L]

No. It's one of the many reasons D4 is bad.
You think you want it but you don't. Instead you should be pushing for campaign improvements similar to what Path of Exile 2 is doing.

Edit: You people keep calling it optional. It's not. It's imposing an entirely different playstyle on a playerbase. You want Diablo 4's progression path then go play Diablo 4 lmao there's a reason no one else is copying them.

[Koala 4peace]

This. Do a memorable campaign instead of a skip. Yes, i know that the former is harder to apply, but for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake, it would improve the quality of the game greatly, and this is not something the Last Epoch can boast of having spares...

[Dravic]

Originally posted by A D L:

No. It's one of the many reasons D4 is bad.
You think you want it but you don't. Instead you should be pushing for campaign improvements similar to what Path of Exile 2 is doing.

Bro what.

You can play through Diablo 4 campaign again on every new character if you wish. Nobody is stopping you. In fact, the patch 2.0 coming on October 8th to Diablo 4 is all about giving more difficulty choice for players who want to challenge themselves i.e. replaying the campaign on new character.

How is offering an OPTION to skip campaign making Diablo 4 bad?

[A D L]

The option existing devalues the content and gives the developers no reason to ever improve the campaign because they've given players the ability to hit World Tier 3 in three hours of grinding helltides.

Patch 2.0 includes a stat squish in a game that's barely a year and a half old. The leveling experience was completely trivialized and the power creep is comparable to a MMO in its tenth year of operations. Players in Diablo 4 have no attachment to their characters and there's no meaningful decisions being made. That's not a good thing and it doesn't improve the player experience.

[Ayk-]

Originally posted by Koala 4peace:

This. Do a memorable campaign instead of a skip. Yes, i know that the former is harder to apply, but for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake, it would improve the quality of the game greatly, and this is not something the Last Epoch can boast of having spares...

I believe the only memorable campaign we will ever have in ARPG history is Diablo II, Grim Dawn being a honorable mention beside.
Nobody asked for campaign skips back then, because it was not a slogfest and early game loot mattered too.
Diablo II didn't even have what we call loot filters today. Two decades later and we still don't have a better contender in terms of item design/balance.

[FhqwhTODD]

Originally posted by Dravic:

How is offering an OPTION to skip campaign making Diablo 4 bad?

Because D4 is bad on principle.

[RIG-801]

Unreachable levels of cope.

[M4N]

Yes, who needs DoT damage fix, Lagon balancing, more defensive options, more items, set rework. Lets ImPrOvE cAmPaIgN. God, all those "story is the most important thing" people are annoying af.

[Ultra Violet]

being able to skip the campaign in D4 does not make the game bad by any means. Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard.

[PinkDaddySasquatch]

Originally posted by Ayk-:

Originally posted by Koala 4peace:

This. Do a memorable campaign instead of a skip. Yes, i know that the former is harder to apply, but for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake, it would improve the quality of the game greatly, and this is not something the Last Epoch can boast of having spares...

I believe the only memorable campaign we will ever have in ARPG history is Diablo II, Grim Dawn being a honorable mention beside.
Nobody asked for campaign skips back then, because it was not a slogfest and early game loot mattered too.
Diablo II didn't even have what we call loot filters today. Two decades later and we still don't have a better contender in terms of item design/balance.

Should give POE's story a listen if you like story of those, its pretty extensive and entertaining to follow. Sadly it feels like most people don't even know it exists.
I think no one asked for campaign skips because that just wasn't part of the culture and there was no market saturation back then, people were content with killing cows non-stop, smith runs, baal runs, pvp, and pinnacle bosses that are immune to everything except for smite damage simply because there was nothing else like D2. Another reason why I feel like no one even thought of having a campaign skip is because of "open servers" where people could just mod characters and items into the game and that scratched any itch they had.
As for loot filters again I think is another culture thing, people weren't minmaxing like we do these days so loot filter simply weren't necessary.

Originally posted by R4P70R:

Yes, who needs DoT damage fix, Lagon balancing, more defensive options, more items, set rework. Lets ImPrOvE cAmPaIgN. God, all those "story is the most important thing" people are annoying af.

No one ever said anything close to "story is the most important thing" and I have never seen anyone say anything like it, so where are these people you're talking about? and you, me, and everyone else in the steam forums know by now that development and balancing takes time and they have other work they need to do and can't just put all their focus on the few things that you have problems with... youre being disingenuous and you know it.

[NotxEevee]

Originally posted by A D L:

No. It's one of the many reasons D4 is bad.
You think you want it but you don't. Instead you should be pushing for campaign improvements similar to what Path of Exile 2 is doing.

One of the most used feature in D4 is a problem?
The same D4 that has better recent reviews, a currently better player retention and a higher playerbase on Steam than LE?
That feature that was present since D3?
That feature that even Grim Dawn added with the Forgotten Gods expansion?
That feature that even some PoE players still ask for to this day?
That same feature that was requested since the Early Access of LE?

It's literally just an optional button press.
You don't want to skip the campaign? Then don't. For the people who want to, now they can.
It's a win in both cases.

And Path of Exile 2 isn't making campaign improvements, it only follows the same timeline.
GGG isn't reworking PoE1's campaign to improve it, unlike what EHG did with Chapter 1, that campaign will still be there in PoE unmodified.
Settlers of Kalguur isn't part of the campaign of PoE, just like Bestiary, Metamorph, Betrayal and Heist weren't part of the campaign. These leagues' content are part of the story, yes, but not part of the campaign.
PoE 2 will be an entirely new game.

What is this post? Is this an attempt at ragebaiting?

Edit:

Originally posted by A D L:

The option existing devalues the content and gives the developers no reason to ever improve the campaign because they've given players the ability to hit World Tier 3 in three hours of grinding helltides.

Which you'd still get to in hours by slaying monsters on your way to complete the campaign... The campaign in D4 isn't that long anyway, so it's a bad example.

You do realize that when new story content would drop, people would atleast complete that new story content atleast once then make the decision of doing it again or not, just like they did with the base campaign...right? New story content is still new content.
It happened with every new campaign chapter release for PoE, the remake of Chapter 1 in Last Epoch, and another time when LE was released. Even your own example, Settlers of Kalguur, some people came back to PoE only to experience this new piece of lore.
This isn't limited to ARPGs either. This tracks with the release of each new patch in Baldur's Gate 3 during its Early Access, and for most if not all games in EA. Palworld with Sakurajima and Cult of the Lamb come to mind too. Or with the release of any new MMORPG expansion.

Why do you think EHG made it possible to skip parts of the campaign by clearing dungeons? Granted, you still have to go out of your way to get Idol points, but optimized paths have already been posted online.
Because people want to be able to skip the campaign.

[M4N]

Originally posted by NotxEevee:

Why do you think EHG made it possible to skip parts of the campaign by clearing dungeons? Granted, you still have to go out of your way to get Idol points, but optimized paths have already been posted online.
Because people want to be able to skip the campaign.

EHG should just make a proper campaign skip and stop overcomplicating things. "Optimized paths" without idols or points are useless.

[M4N]

Originally posted by PinkDaddySasquatch:

No one ever said anything close to "story is the most important thing" and I have never seen anyone say anything like it, so where are these people you're talking about? and you, me, and everyone else in the steam forums know by now that development and balancing takes time and they have other work they need to do and can't just put all their focus on the few things that you have problems with... youre being disingenuous and you know it.

They should focus on the most important things. And ImPrOvInG cAmPaIgN isnt even on the list. For me its a "make or break" situation: no DoT fix and campaign skip - good bye LE it was a fun time. They could AT LEAST open portals and share all idol slots/points between all characters, but NOOOOOO they just gave us "alternate leveling paths" lmao. What a joke.

[Idlemind]

It's also a the reason D3 is great.. campaign skip is essential.

[NotxEevee]

Originally posted by R4P70R:

EHG should just make a proper campaign skip and stop overcomplicating things. "Optimized paths" without idols or points are useless.

Completely agree.
I'd rather have the same button as in D3 and D4, have all idol slots straight away or have them unlock at different lvl caps, but it would take rebalancing monoliths somewhat, because starting monoliths straight away with a level 1 character may be difficult.
Or the button could be a character boost, but skipping 50-60 lvls during the leveling feels bad imo.

[ShavedDome]

I completely agree we need a skip campaign feature. Both Last Epoch and POE drive me nuts with not having one. I can try out 4 builds and play end game content D4 than I can with 2 in POE and Last Epoch. That makes them more boring to me having to do the campaign each character. I wouldn't mind once a season/cycle/league but not every character.