Were/Are there changes to set items in 1.1?

[Parkey]

Title says it all, doing build crafting and wanting to know if set items can be improved in crafting etc now.

[Astasia]

They made them easier to get, that's the only change. I wouldn't expect them to ever be endgame viable, that's just not their plan for sets. They are just "leveling items."

[Indianachones - Franco -]

Perfect, leveling items that you get at endgame.

[Astasia]

Hence making them easier to get. The circle passive that causes a full set to drop at once has been moved down earlier in the list, you get it at like rank 3 now, so very shortly after you finish the current campaign.

[Balthasar☆]

That's nice but sad as well but it is what it is i guess.

[hÆLëØS]

gear that you get after completing the campaign and leveling a faction, that are meant to be used while leveling and beating the campaign. durrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Astasia]

Originally posted by helios:

gear that you get after completing the campaign and leveling a faction, that are meant to be used while leveling and beating the campaign. durrrrrrrrrrrrr

The campaign isn't completed, you "finish" the current campaign fairly early at like level 30-50 depending on your playstyle and use of skips, there's a lot of leveling and progression left after that before you get to "end game" setups/gear. There's also this thing called alts, and a shared storage. Sets are most attractive for leveling alts, some of them have enough power that you don't really have to swap gear for most of the early-mid leveling process.

Personally this is one of the things where I agree with the approach of the devs. Sets are a bad mechanic which has ruined build diversity in multiple games. Being funneled into playing with specific skills/builds because that's what the sets support isn't fun, nor is ignoring multiple gear slots because it either has to be part of "your set" or it's useless. There's a reason PoE and D4 don't really have sets.

[JCourtney]

Originally posted by Astasia:

Originally posted by helios:

gear that you get after completing the campaign and leveling a faction, that are meant to be used while leveling and beating the campaign. durrrrrrrrrrrrr

The campaign isn't completed, you "finish" the current campaign fairly early at like level 30-50 depending on your playstyle and use of skips, there's a lot of leveling and progression left after that before you get to "end game" setups/gear. There's also this thing called alts, and a shared storage. Sets are most attractive for leveling alts, some of them have enough power that you don't really have to swap gear for most of the early-mid leveling process.

Personally this is one of the things where I agree with the approach of the devs. Sets are a bad mechanic which has ruined build diversity in multiple games. Being funneled into playing with specific skills/builds because that's what the sets support isn't fun, nor is ignoring multiple gear slots because it either has to be part of "your set" or it's useless. There's a reason PoE and D4 don't really have sets.

I'm sure the D4 Skeleton crew can't wait for sets to be a thing. Here is your new build you play for the season, as we gut the game's creativity to make less work for ourselves.

[NixBoxDone]

I can see why they might not want set items to be BIS. Depending on how many pieces are in a set, that would basically reduce you to very few items you could hunt for upgrades for or potentially build leggy items to fill.
They don't want to be in the same boat as Diablo 3 where each league has a super ultra buffed 6 piece set that is BIS for that season.
On the other hand I'd really like sets that can be build-defining to actually be viable for endgame.
Maybe the balance could be that set pieces work similar to uniques? One or two "locked" values and a random number of empty slots you can either craft or graft into end-game pieces so hunting the fodder to put into the set piece and a set piece with enough points would be the end game farm?

That or a radical departure from other ARPGs by giving you a second euipment window specifically for set pieces. Make it set AND exalted instead of either/or.

[Daft Gamer]

I don't think anyone is wanting Sets to be BIS but other than a few outliers, the bonuses don't really compete with lego's. I'm honestly surprised that they didn't at least give sets the ability to have LP so that would allow them to be slotted into builds a bit easier.