Explain it to me please, why is this game so popular ? It fascinates me.

[Voyager]

I refunded this game, but I am still thinking about re-purchasing it. I'm just trying to understand what is so appealing about Last Epoch, except that it's "the new RPG to play". Not ironicaly.

Here is my problem. It seems to me that 99% of all mobs exist just to test my build and to make me " enjoy the damage numbers " on them. Occasionaly there is something that might actualy live for more than split second, and very rarely there is something that can actualy harm or even kill me. Seems like a fair point of view so far ? I hope so.

Now, assuming that there is some truth in what I am describing, the whole reason to play Last Epoch is to: A) design ( or copy ) best builds, B) To gather & manage the loot. Technicaly it sounds normal for any RPG, what I dont understand is the way this game is played when I fight enemies.

Chaotic mess is how I would describe it.

Majority of mobs die before my brain can even register how they even look like. Was that a manbear, goatman or very short person with a moustache ? I have no clue, it could be as well half rat, half snake with bird nest as a hat, wearing ballet flats and using little piggy as a weapon. I wouldn't now.

I thought " maybe I didn't played it long enough ", so I've looked at high level nerdy-sweaty gameplay and it's 10x worse than what I've assumed. Everything dies from just looking at those players characters and for most part they just staring at stash, inventory, loot, abilities, passives and other random stuff.

So Last Epoch is addicting and popular becouse the way its designed arround Builds & Loot ? Thats what supost to turn me on about the game if I am correct ? Math problem, spreadsheets and sort of feeling " Oh daddy, my stash has so much stuff in it ".

[SirHooligan]

Same here!! Mein Refund-Request wurde gestern abgelehnt, weil 2 Stunden überschritten waren. Habe allein, um ins online Game reinzukommen locker 6 Stunden auf der Uhr. Wie asozial ist das bitte? ^^ . Ich kann aktuell nicht zu dem Boss porten, den ich gestern Abend noch auf dem Schirm hatte und komme somit nicht weiter. Wolcen lässt grüssen. Keinen Bock mehr auf diesen von 24/7 Gamern gehypten Mist!!! . Game wird jetzt deinstalliert und gut is. 35 Tacken down the drain. ^^ Naja, das kennt man ja...NIE WIEDER EARLY ACCESS!! Viel Spass noch an all diejenigen, bei denen es funzt. (aufrichtig!!) ^^
Ich bin raus. Per siempre. Sollen sich gehackt legen mit ihrem Game. HF!! :-D

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

basically you get an Arpg every 2 years so you end up buying all of them even if they are bad. There are some semi-arpgs but they are usually half baked.
People are complaining all arpgs are bad these days anyway.
I liked Wolcen a lot but most people were mixed about it since the game was so great with it's lore, story, character design but weaker on the gameplay side.
this one is the opposite....

[Shiyo]

引用自 just.dont.do.it：

引用自 Tiasmoon：

Erm, that's exactly how they do work if you got a good build.

You don't suddenly walk out with lvl1 character having "a good build".
A good build is something you work (hard) for, and not a something that very much happens automatically like in LE once you pass lvl10 mark or so.

The only way to keep mobs on your screen for some time in LE is to NOT spec anything and preferably avoid attacking mobs at all. That way you can at least see how they look and what they can do.

This is the issue. You are literally a walking god at level 5, and there's no reason to care about any of the cool progression systems in the game because of it.
It feels bad, a completely wasted game.

[SimplyGnome]

> Here is my problem. It seems to me that 99% of all mobs exist just to test my build and to make me " enjoy the damage numbers " on them.

Yes, this is an arpg. Thats the style of game. FOR an arpg, its great, has great build versaility and a bunch of neat features like the crafting and loot filter.

If youre NOT a fan of that style, then absolutely no, I would not suggest it. There are much better games for characterization, story, and even Id say skill based gameplay - This game doesnt have much of those. I'd play Hades over this for those aspects, or many other games.

But for mindless killing, making and testing builds, trying new combos - Last Epoch is a great arpg.

[Shiyo]

引用自 SimplyGnome：

> Here is my problem. It seems to me that 99% of all mobs exist just to test my build and to make me " enjoy the damage numbers " on them.

Yes, this is an arpg. Thats the style of game. FOR an arpg, its great, has great build versaility and a bunch of neat features like the crafting and loot filter.

If youre NOT a fan of that style, then absolutely no, I would not suggest it. There are much better games for characterization, story, and even Id say skill based gameplay - This game doesnt have much of those. I'd play Hades over this for those aspects, or many other games.

But for mindless killing, making and testing builds, trying new combos - Last Epoch is a great arpg.

This is wrong, and PoE catering to your kind for 5 years is to blame.

[SimplyGnome]

引用自 Shiyo：

引用自 SimplyGnome：

> Here is my problem. It seems to me that 99% of all mobs exist just to test my build and to make me " enjoy the damage numbers " on them.

Yes, this is an arpg. Thats the style of game. FOR an arpg, its great, has great build versaility and a bunch of neat features like the crafting and loot filter.

If youre NOT a fan of that style, then absolutely no, I would not suggest it. There are much better games for characterization, story, and even Id say skill based gameplay - This game doesnt have much of those. I'd play Hades over this for those aspects, or many other games.

But for mindless killing, making and testing builds, trying new combos - Last Epoch is a great arpg.

This is wrong, and PoE catering to your kind for 5 years is to blame.

POE, Grim Dawn, D2, D3, Titan Quest. You know, that largest arpgs out there. Its okay to not like those games - But that is the genre and the style, and many people like them.

I like them, AND games that are different from them. Thats okay too.

[SimplyGnome]

引用自 Shiyo：

引用自 just.dont.do.it：

You don't suddenly walk out with lvl1 character having "a good build".
A good build is something you work (hard) for, and not a something that very much happens automatically like in LE once you pass lvl10 mark or so.

The only way to keep mobs on your screen for some time in LE is to NOT spec anything and preferably avoid attacking mobs at all. That way you can at least see how they look and what they can do.

This is the issue. You are literally a walking god at level 5, and there's no reason to care about any of the cool progression systems in the game because of it.
It feels bad, a completely wasted game.

You def cant defeat Julra at level 5. And you can definitely make a bad build in the 20s-50s that makes is too slow to continue till you fix the build.

[screamingpalm]

引用自 < blank >：

引用自 screamingpalm：

Older arpg's were a bit more challenging. D3 vanilla was the end of that era and the genre evolved to be more like mmo's. It was sad to see what they did to that game. I no longer enjoy them, but I'll pick up PoE if in the mood for one. I prefer turn based tactical RPGs like BG3 where monsters last for more than a second and have interesting abilities.

Creating a good build never seemed appealing to me in an arpg since there's never anything to really do with it.

Pining for vanilla d3 is in the running for the most contrarian braindead take of all time. Congratulations.

Whiny little crybabies like you ruined D3 and the arpg genre. Congratulations.

[Balm]

引用自 Voyager：

I refunded this game, but I am still thinking about re-purchasing it. I'm just trying to understand what is so appealing about Last Epoch, except that it's "the new RPG to play". Not ironicaly.

Here is my problem. It seems to me that 99% of all mobs exist just to test my build and to make me " enjoy the damage numbers " on them. Occasionaly there is something that might actualy live for more than split second, and very rarely there is something that can actualy harm or even kill me. Seems like a fair point of view so far ? I hope so.

Now, assuming that there is some truth in what I am describing, the whole reason to play Last Epoch is to: A) design ( or copy ) best builds, B) To gather & manage the loot. Technicaly it sounds normal for any RPG, what I dont understand is the way this game is played when I fight enemies.

Chaotic mess is how I would describe it.

Majority of mobs die before my brain can even register how they even look like. Was that a manbear, goatman or very short person with a moustache ? I have no clue, it could be as well half rat, half snake with bird nest as a hat, wearing ballet flats and using little piggy as a weapon. I wouldn't now.

I thought " maybe I didn't played it long enough ", so I've looked at high level nerdy-sweaty gameplay and it's 10x worse than what I've assumed. Everything dies from just looking at those players characters and for most part they just staring at stash, inventory, loot, abilities, passives and other random stuff.

So Last Epoch is addicting and popular becouse the way its designed arround Builds & Loot ? Thats what supost to turn me on about the game if I am correct ? Math problem, spreadsheets and sort of feeling " Oh daddy, my stash has so much stuff in it ".

well you're close to the reason why its enjoyable for me

I enjoy it for the 'testbed' nature of the gameplay, and rotate through a bunch of different builds, classes, and gear to see how it all works out.
>hmm can I make this work?
>what if I tweaked this, would it be better?
>alright lets take it out for a spin
etc.

There isn't a path of building for this game so simming everything out is sort of a gut feeling and estimated guess thing at the moment, and its really rewarding when you get everything you need together to make a build that sounds fun work out really well and watch it explode in power.

[Steel]

People who enjoy sports game fascinate me too because I like 95% of video game genres and can understand them, except sports games. I don't make threads about it though I just let people enjoy them even if I don't get it.