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BeNco Feb 26, 2024 @ 1:46am
Skill Trigger?
hello,
do skills that trigger other skills also use the skillpoints in the skills that are triggered? I have my warlock skill set so that bonecurse is triggered when chaos bolts hit. However, I don't get any armor when killing enemies (I have this skill within Bonecurse).
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JCD Feb 26, 2024 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by BeNco:
hello,
do skills that trigger other skills also use the skillpoints in the skills that are triggered? I have my warlock skill set so that bonecurse is triggered when chaos bolts hit. However, I don't get any armor when killing enemies (I have this skill within Bonecurse).
Yes it uses the triggered skill tree
Last edited by JCD; Feb 26, 2024 @ 1:52am
quintonhoffert Feb 26, 2024 @ 1:51am 
They should, though of course it's possible there's a bug. Chaos Bolts is, after all, a new skill, so it's possible there's an interaction within it that isn't working as intended. Nevertheless, I'd recommend you re-check Bone Curse and see if that node specifies that you "direct cast" it. If it says "direct cast" then you actually have to cast the skill rather than trigger it. I don't think it says that but I can't remember; if it does, though, you'll have to manually cast it rather than trigger it.

That being said, if it's the node I'm thinking of I'm pretty sure it has a 10% chance to trigger per skill level (cap of 3). In that case, you could just be getting unlucky and low-rolling the chances. Of course, if you're hitting massive mobs of enemies and never getting any armor then the chances of that happening drop significantly, but if you're only killing 2-3 enemies per time then it's not so unlikely that you're low-rolling the chance. If you only have 1 point in that node then you only have a 10% chance to get the armor. Of course, if I'm misremembering the node, then this is irrelevant, but assuming I'm right you might just be hitting really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ RNG.
BeNco Feb 26, 2024 @ 1:52am 
Hmm okay thx, but then why don't I get armor from Marrow thief in the skill tree of Bone curse :,(
Elgareth Feb 26, 2024 @ 1:52am 
It generally uses the skill trees of triggered skills. But in many skill trees, certain nodes only trigger when directly using that skill. In that case the description of that nodes says something like "When you directly cast it" or "not when triggered through other skills".
BeNco Feb 26, 2024 @ 1:52am 
Originally posted by quintonhoffert:
They should, though of course it's possible there's a bug. Chaos Bolts is, after all, a new skill, so it's possible there's an interaction within it that isn't working as intended. Nevertheless, I'd recommend you re-check Bone Curse and see if that node specifies that you "direct cast" it. If it says "direct cast" then you actually have to cast the skill rather than trigger it. I don't think it says that but I can't remember; if it does, though, you'll have to manually cast it rather than trigger it.

That being said, if it's the node I'm thinking of I'm pretty sure it has a 10% chance to trigger per skill level (cap of 3). In that case, you could just be getting unlucky and low-rolling the chances. Of course, if you're hitting massive mobs of enemies and never getting any armor then the chances of that happening drop significantly, but if you're only killing 2-3 enemies per time then it's not so unlikely that you're low-rolling the chance. If you only have 1 point in that node then you only have a 10% chance to get the armor. Of course, if I'm misremembering the node, then this is irrelevant, but assuming I'm right you might just be hitting really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ RNG.

Thanks, yes i checked it. It dosnt say direct cast
BeNco Feb 26, 2024 @ 2:01am 
Originally posted by Elgareth:
It generally uses the skill trees of triggered skills. But in many skill trees, certain nodes only trigger when directly using that skill. In that case the description of that nodes says something like "When you directly cast it" or "not when triggered through other skills".
Do i need to have it in my skill bar maybe?
Maltsi Feb 26, 2024 @ 2:12am 
That node doesn't work even if you manually cast it. Or at least it won't show the armor in your character sheet
BeNco Feb 26, 2024 @ 2:28am 
Originally posted by Maltsi:
That node doesn't work even if you manually cast it. Or at least it won't show the armor in your character sheet
Oh, good to know. So it is a known bug. Thats okay i guess :D Thx
Maltsi Feb 26, 2024 @ 2:38am 
Originally posted by BeNco:
Originally posted by Maltsi:
That node doesn't work even if you manually cast it. Or at least it won't show the armor in your character sheet
Oh, good to know. So it is a known bug. Thats okay i guess :D Thx
I don't know if developers are aware of this one, i just tested it myself and noticed that it does absolutely nothing. Should probably make proper bug report, but im too lazy
Dailao Feb 26, 2024 @ 3:02am 
Originally posted by BeNco:
hello,
do skills that trigger other skills also use the skillpoints in the skills that are triggered? I have my warlock skill set so that bonecurse is triggered when chaos bolts hit. However, I don't get any armor when killing enemies (I have this skill within Bonecurse).

In general yes, but pay attention to the text. Sometimes it says if you "directly cast" a curse, proccing from fissure or chaos bolt is not "directly cast".
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