Beast Master questions

[SpiralRazor]

Two really..

How are you building BM to actually stay in melee? Are you just taking all the boar nodes or is there something im missing...because mine trying to do challenge content just gets CRUNKED in melee range.

Next up is a swipe question. If i get the swipe node on bear, then get primal resonance on swipe, will the bears swipes trigger the effect as well?



ty in advance!

[DeiGratia]

Hard to say w/o knowing your build, resistance and so on. When you say challenging content do you mean monos or what?

[SpiralRazor]

Originally posted by DeiGratia:

Hard to say w/o knowing your build, resistance and so on. When you say challenging content do you mean monos or what?

Not helpful. Do you even have a high level beastmaster?

[Knavenformed]

Yeah I looked at the Beastmaster tree a couple of times and always wonder what's the point
Most melee buffs are to your character and not your pets, yet the core melee skills are elemental imbues, and there is "swipe" which feels so janky

I would expect anything but Upheaval Beastmaster to be a jankfiesta, since by Terraria logic the best melee attacks are ranged.

[Womp Womp]

Originally posted by SpiralRazor:

Originally posted by DeiGratia:

Hard to say w/o knowing your build, resistance and so on. When you say challenging content do you mean monos or what?

Not helpful. Do you even have a high level beastmaster?

Aren't you the insufferable one? Someone asks for clarification and your response is, "not helpful". Enjoy your failure.

[SpiralRazor]

Originally posted by Knavenformed:

Yeah I looked at the Beastmaster tree a couple of times and always wonder what's the point
Most melee buffs are to your character and not your pets, yet the core melee skills are elemental imbues, and there is "swipe" which feels so janky

I would expect anything but Upheaval Beastmaster to be a jankfiesta, since by Terraria logic the best melee attacks are ranged.

The problem, as far as i can see it, is that the class wants to be in melee but does not have access to the armor to do so...nor is it supported anywhere in talents...Yes, you can get physical resistance at the end of the tree, but nowhere do you have spell resists. You get one buff line that can reduce damage by 15% when you get hit by a melee attack, or when it procs at 20% max on hit.

Its just....not good. I do use swipe...but im not hiting any mobs with it. At 70+ you will just explode by trying to go into melee. I use it with Shark Aspect and Bear Swipw, since that proc will propagate on your pets regardless of whether it hits anything....its pure, pure jank.

[Daffy]

OP seems angry so i guess i will get yelled at but for some reason i give it a go i guess ....

As i am typing this i am alevel 86 BM on my first ever char in LE so do with that info as you like.

Running level 100 normal Mono's

I am running with 1 hander and shield prio on HP / resists and pet damage.

leap into packs and warcry to freeze them then drop frenzy totem and swipe a few times and my 5 wolves will finish them while i move on to next pack. this is for high HP packs ... normal packs i just pass and let the wolves kill them.

key to staying alive is leap / warcry lots of +minion damage.

[Geist]

Swipe gets all the buffs in both forms. You need to use your shouts. Tie it to other skills. There are other options as well. Just depends on how you want to play.

[Domain]

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[SpiralRazor]

Originally posted by Daffy:

OP seems angry so i guess i will get yelled at but for some reason i give it a go i guess ....

As i am typing this i am alevel 86 BM on my first ever char in LE so do with that info as you like.

Running level 100 normal Mono's

I am running with 1 hander and shield prio on HP / resists and pet damage.

leap into packs and warcry to freeze them then drop frenzy totem and swipe a few times and my 5 wolves will finish them while i move on to next pack. this is for high HP packs ... normal packs i just pass and let the wolves kill them.

key to staying alive is leap / warcry lots of +minion damage.

I dont really understand how you could infer that from text, but okay.


In any case, that you for the input. However, it just confirms what Ive found on YT. Ever since the wolves were buffed all the builds use wolves/jump variations. One build i saw used scorpion as the major damage dealer...but it still used wolves / jump / frenzy.

The class needs some buffs/reworks because its build diversity really suffers in 1.0 with wolves being too good and the other pets being fairly weak.

Case in point, my necro totally steamrolls most monos and i dont have any kind of fancy rotation to worry about...no jank moves in its set. Swarm druid is MUCH more durable in melee and Delemgan(spelling?) form is a lot like playing the necro...not quite as fast in clears but has a very safe playstyle.

Im not calling for nerfs to other pet classes, im just saying that beastmaster suffers in durability via its tree..while you can indeed spec into boar etc...your dps really suffers if you do so making its clear time even slower.