Whats the real difference between playing offline-online?

[Zaserk]

Whats the real difference between playing offline-online?

[Flawed Design]

You just wont see anyone, cant trade with people, wont show up on leaderboards. Offline is strictly just a singleplayer game is all.

[Amrehlu]

You can't play with friends. That's the only difference that matters. It's a videogame, so nothing that is part of being online actually matters beyond actively interacting with the game alongside someone else.

[m662]

I want to add to that that you are not truly offline. Telemetry is still collected from you without consent to Google and CloudFlare even if you start with full offline and have chat disabled in your settings.

It will however not prevent any launch of the game or functions if you truly block them but it should not have any outgoing connection when you advertise something as offline beside for it to authenticate to Steam to actually launch the product.

[Limp Squirrel]

Also no cosmetics. So anything you spend on the ingame store is unusable in Offline.

[Gropalopagus]

also you're offline character is saved locally on your pc so you don't need an internet connection to play it.

[ratmaz313]

No other people...so no chat,,,,no trade....just a solo game...but you can CHEAT bigger than hell

[ViLe]

Originally posted by m662:

I want to add to that that you are not truly offline. Telemetry is still collected from you without consent to Google and CloudFlare even if you start with full offline and have chat disabled in your settings.

Major lawsuit... wow, read about this from another user in my main thread. This is no way legal. Only a blind fool would support this just to spite me for acknowledging how bad this information is.

[Astasia]

Originally posted by ratmaz313:

so no chat

There is chat in offline mode.

[Flick]

Originally posted by Zaserk:

Whats the real difference between playing offline-online?

You can actually play the game in offline mode

[ratmaz313]

If you wanna breeze through the game with over powered gear and see what you can do then try Offline...cheat...make it rain leg items from lvl 1....its stupid...Ive done it...and play online after all the sheep leave cause they flooded the servers and now dont know why the game they saw some Youtuber playing is not working right...PS I bought Last Epoch in Nov of 2022.

[ratmaz313]

Originally posted by Astasia:

Originally posted by ratmaz313:

so no chat

There is chat in offline mode.

No....true offline is when you launch they game in offline mode.....you launched in online then picked offline after logging in the servers. You get chat but thats all.

[m662]

Originally posted by ViLe:

Originally posted by m662:

I want to add to that that you are not truly offline. Telemetry is still collected from you without consent to Google and CloudFlare even if you start with full offline and have chat disabled in your settings.

Major lawsuit... wow, read about this from another user in my main thread. This is no way legal. Only a blind fool would support this just to spite me for acknowledging how bad this information is.

Oh no it is certainly not legal (at least in EU) but than again most companies on Steam or even outside are so bad at even understanding privacy laws I sometimes wonder if they actually read there own Terms and conditions.

Will it get to a lawsuit hardly. How ever I did report it to our DPA because I am not willing to give any company slack if its playing with data-subjects data. In the mean time either do not use such products or do what I do all the time block there entire connection.

[ratmaz313]

Originally posted by ViLe:

Originally posted by m662:

I want to add to that that you are not truly offline. Telemetry is still collected from you without consent to Google and CloudFlare even if you start with full offline and have chat disabled in your settings.

Major lawsuit... wow, read about this from another user in my main thread. This is no way legal. Only a blind fool would support this just to spite me for acknowledging how bad this information is.

ok none of this is true. First is you launch in offline the game is offline....I never once had to disable chat...its offline there is no chat. Also I have check offline mode by simple unplugging my internet.....still ran like a dream.

[m662]

Originally posted by ratmaz313:

Originally posted by ViLe:

Major lawsuit... wow, read about this from another user in my main thread. This is no way legal. Only a blind fool would support this just to spite me for acknowledging how bad this information is.

ok none of this is true. First is you launch in offline the game is offline....I never once had to disable chat...its offline there is no chat. Also I have check offline mode by simple unplugging my internet.....still ran like a dream.

No what you state is false to some extend. if you actually have firewall logs active you will see connections attempts. And they happen at a rate of about 1 attempt per 5 minutes or during startup and exiting the application. Chat is disabled other connections how ever absolutely not and they keep active without manual intervention or closing the application completely.

Here you go a full uncut reproducible telemetry attempt without user consent while monitoring tcp and port requests during standard use of the application.
https://screenpal.com/watch/cZnZ2MVKIOo


Keep in mind your average free consumer firewall setup *will not block these attempts or even notify you off them.* Mine does because I explicitly have as the only system user full escalated privilege over network operations. So if you say it is not happening to me that is simply because your not monitoring for it.

Even the build in Microsoft super-administrator account tied to firewall has no permissions in this setup anything it tries is blocked. Under regular consumer systems Steam is Allowed to populate your firewall with any .exe connection without your consent even when you remove it it will repopulate it.

Blocking is still honored but only for that specific port and .exe combination. It does so because it is seen as a safe user to operate the firewall. And in turn most security vendors simply follow that principle as to not confuse the users unless you go to the business side of the security suites or activate those advanced check boxes they tell you to stay clear of unless you know what your doing.

The reason why it build that way is because otherwise Steam and the game publishers have to ask you every time to create firewall rules before updating, before launching a new application. That is not feasible though it would absolutely from a security conscious point be the best thing to do just not practical.

You do not need this kind of extra measures unless your heavily involved in IT Let me be absolutely clear your system is safe enough for daily use. I need it because of my work I do not recommend it unless you want to learn about your system or do not mind tens to hundreds of pop-ups at first use and subsequent changes of your application needs.