How does this compare to GrimDawn?

[Razgaur]

I've read this game being compared to D4 and Poe, But what about GrimDawn which many will agree is a wonderful game. How does LE compare to GD?

[jhoni77]

yea GRIM DAWN is a wonderful game but dont forget that GRIM DAWN exsist cause of the TITAN QUEST wich is and will be my top favor game ever(now TQ @ is in devolpment)

[L O]

One thing I miss from Grim dawn is the option to play co-op on a LAN connection, I can't even play on line with the missus who's sitting a metre away.

[AlucardNoir]

It's actually more similar game design wise with Grim Dawn than it is with Poe.

[Feuver]

Grim Dawn has more horizontal complexity - you can really mish-mash abilities and make something that's very versatile, but the scaling is fairly limited.

LE's complexity is much more vertical. You can only really use 5 abilities at once, but all of these abilities have skill-specific modifications that is tacked onto passives, and then tacked onto itemization.

[[STG] Dante]

Originally posted by Razgaur:

I've read this game being compared to D4 and Poe, But what about GrimDawn which many will agree is a wonderful game. How does LE compare to GD?

they are different enough i feel you can enjoy both and have completely different experiences. Play both if/ when you can

[Kao]

The mastery trees work exactly the same as the ones in GrimDawn, it’s striking.
That’s also good news, it means they take what is good.

[Nani]

Let me try to draw some comparisons.

Grim Dawn and Last Epoch share parts of the leveling system, at least as far as the character is concerned. Both games require you to level the mastery you pick to certain points, before you can level more advanced skills.

As far as the active skills are concerned, Last Epoch is a bit more complex, due to their skills having their own sub-skilltrees with several branches to explore.

I think I can almost say that what legendaries, devotion points and the skillnodes do to convert skills in Grim Dawn - is managed by those specialisation trees for each skill.

You will be able to, for example, transform your golems into different elemental damages, specc them into crit, go for fewer but stronger minions etc.

As far as dual classes are concerned in Grim Dawn, Last Epoch seems to mimic that to some extend with its system of base and advanced classes. You first start with the basic skilltree for some 20 or 30 levels, then you get - based on the main questline - access to one of three advanced choices, which enable a further layer of build choices.

I've not yet reached endgame in Last Epoch, but what I've seen so far makes me want to state that crafting is more deterministic and easier done than what I recall from Grim Dawn.

Boss fights are a bit slower paced in the Last Epoch campaign and it feels easier for me to dodge telegraphed attacks than Grim Dawn (Then again I haven't played much since Grim Dawn got it's dodge movement)

[Kangaxx]

I think it's better.
Actually it's more like Grim Down than PoE.

[Sak]

Grim dawn is the king of ARPGs right now. Consider this to be the prince of Arpgs ;) -provided they solve the online issues -
if you dont care about the online part then its perfect. get it asap !

[__reth__]

I didn't get deep into Grim Dawn (yet), but Last Epoch feels like a spiritual sequel to Grim Dawn. Similar level of complexity and target audience.

If you enjoy Grim Dawn, you'll enjoy Last Epoch.

[Razgaur]

Ok thanks all for the responses and perspectives. You all convinced me to give this game a try. :)

[MaxxGold]

Grimm Dawn is amazing and challenging. Last Epoch is simple and easy. Last Epoch is just setting up all the suckers for loot purchases.

Grimm Dawn has new content coming out this year and is so much better than LE.

[Beertruck]

More storage space in LE than GD, which is kinda huge. No need to install 3rd party programs if you are a loot ♥♥♥♥♥ like me. Also GD is a much slower paced game. I was early access supporter for both games, they are both great in their own ways.

[Dead Goat]

Grim Dawn is a much better game than Last Epoch. Last Epoch feels like a mobile game where nothing really matters.

If you liked grim dawn because of the chunky combat, build variety, and loot.... you will not like last epoch. If you played and liked Diablo 4 and are fine with 2010 graphics, clunky combat, you will like Last Epoch.