This Game is Not Easy on HC

[yuzhonglu]

And anyone who claims it is easy on HC has died a dozen or more and are now just numb to death.

And anyone who claims game is easy should play HC.

[Dannyboy]

When you play HC it feels like a rouguelite. I mean the gold you farm, the mats you find still stay in HC stash. SO its getting easier the more you play and/or die

[yuzhonglu]

ANY game mode without a heavy penalty for failure/ death is technically "easy" if you have enough time.

[SakiChanx3]

Or you just simply don't die and build res and health instead of ignoring these stats and u are perfectly fine

[Dannyboy]

Originally posted by SakiChanx3:

Or you just simply don't die and build res and health instead of ignoring these stats and u are perfectly fine

even if you push defences you have to know the game, the mobs and the patterns of bosses. As in other HC games there some knowledge-checks

[yuzhonglu]

Yeah, that's what everyone who consistently plays HC does.

But even if you do build like that, you're still always worried about death, ALWAYS. The mindset is totally different from SC. Even if you've built around res and health, boss attacks still chunk out a quarter/ half of your health, at minimum, and so in the back of your mind you're always thinking "that could have killed me if I was unlucky."

[SakiChanx3]

Originally posted by Dannyboy:

Originally posted by SakiChanx3:

Or you just simply don't die and build res and health instead of ignoring these stats and u are perfectly fine

even if you push defences you have to know the game, the mobs and the patterns of bosses. As in other HC games there some knowledge-checks

I mean in Poe it's the same if there was no danger to dying Hc would be pointless after all

[Otakuya]

I've finished the campaign for Warlock on HC. I think the difficulty of campaign is normal. Not hard nor easy. If you care about resistance and your build, you'll probably finish the story without dying. I think veteran players say "LP is Easy" because it's very easy to max out all resistances and there's no instakill mechanic or knowledge check in the campaign unlike other ARPGs. But it's not easy to realize that it's really important to keep your resistance high without dying or playing a lot of ARPG for most usual players.

[DeiGratia]

Originally posted by Dannyboy:

When you play HC it feels like a rouguelite. I mean the gold you farm, the mats you find still stay in HC stash. SO its getting easier the more you play and/or die

Well you could ssf-hc. Maybe they'll add masochist mode back just for those rare few who want the punishment or reward however you look at it

[yuzhonglu]

And even as a tanky warlock with minion meatshields you still have to pay attention all the time even with maxed resistances and high health.

Imagine beating the campaign on HC without minions and without prior farming. If, with the meta HC build, the game is "normal" difficulty on HC, imagine what it would be like if you didn't have Cthonic and minions.

[Otakuya]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

And even as a tanky warlock with minion meatshields you still have to pay attention all the time even with maxed resistances and high health.

Imagine beating the campaign on HC without minions and without prior farming.

I totally agree with your opinion. "Easy ARPG" must be a brain dead game. Sometimes we're in a dangerous situation even thought gears and build are very solid. So we need to consistently check where enemy is and where we should move to.

By the way, I never play any minions after level 20 using my Warlock. There're tons of mechanics to reduce damage and gain Wards. Since Warlock is implemented at v.1.0, it might be much stronger than other classes. I've head that Falconer that's also released at v.1.0 is quite strong too. I'll check it!

[Shiyo]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

And anyone who claims it is easy on HC has died a dozen or more and are now just numb to death.

And anyone who claims game is easy should play HC.

HC does not, and never will, add difficulty to any ARPG.
You avoid all challenge and play super safe. It ruins all fun.

[Ellye]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

And anyone who claims it is easy on HC has died a dozen or more and are now just numb to death.

And anyone who claims game is easy should play HC.

I haven't had my health drop below 30% in the entire campaign on my first time playing through this game.

It's pretty damn easy, unfortunately so. I don't expect nor want it to be super hard or anything, but it's easy to the point of becoming a bit monotonous.
I don't think I"ve ever beat an ARPG campaign on the very first try like this before.

Started the endgame today, let's see if the difficulty ramps up.

[CyberDown]

Originally posted by Ellye:

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

And anyone who claims it is easy on HC has died a dozen or more and are now just numb to death.

And anyone who claims game is easy should play HC.

I haven't had my health drop below 30% in the entire campaign on my first time playing through this game.

It's pretty damn easy, unfortunately so. I don't expect nor want it to be super hard or anything, but it's easy to the point of becoming a bit monotonous.
I don't think I"ve ever beat an ARPG campaign on the very first try like this before.

Started the endgame today, let's see if the difficulty ramps up.

you should start to see less forgiving boss mechanics once you clear echo quests, with more things you cant stand in on the ground. Nothing over the top imo

[yuzhonglu]

Originally posted by Ellye:

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

And anyone who claims it is easy on HC has died a dozen or more and are now just numb to death.

And anyone who claims game is easy should play HC.

I haven't had my health drop below 30% in the entire campaign on my first time playing through this game.

It's pretty damn easy, unfortunately so. I don't expect nor want it to be super hard or anything, but it's easy to the point of becoming a bit monotonous.
I don't think I"ve ever beat an ARPG campaign on the very first try like this before.

Started the endgame today, let's see if the difficulty ramps up.

So play it on HC and beat the campaign, and show us your achievement.

[Ellye]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

Originally posted by Ellye:

I haven't had my health drop below 30% in the entire campaign on my first time playing through this game.

It's pretty damn easy, unfortunately so. I don't expect nor want it to be super hard or anything, but it's easy to the point of becoming a bit monotonous.
I don't think I"ve ever beat an ARPG campaign on the very first try like this before.

Started the endgame today, let's see if the difficulty ramps up.

So play it on HC and beat the campaign, and show us your achievement.

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Majasa was, appropriately, the hardest fight in the campaign for me. Her swipes in the second form gave me a bit of a scare, much more so than anything that Lagon did. Still, Health remained firmly above a third.