Is this normal to get one shot by standard attacks with max resist?

[CoolKid]

Hi,

Julra uses an attack who pursue you for few seconds if I get hit I die from full life also golden elemental 1 shot me with his shotgun attack I have max resist (75% cap). Is this normal or there's something wrong with my defenses?

[Prometheus]

Attacks that have long telegraphs are meant to one shot you yes. The hint is in the long telegraph.

[cybercybercybercyber4]

i dont have the game yet, just a question.

i saw a few YT videos where the player got one shot by a normal mob without any windup or telegraph. So i wonder how big of an issue this is in last epoch.

i played POE and in post-game this becomes quite a big issue to the point where its smarter to lame with summoned creatures to draw aggro than to max the resistences.

i really do not want to summon creatures, its not an option, id rather never touch the game.
So my question is, in last epoch if i only get moderate levels of resistence (like 50%) and im not underleveled, can normal mobs still kill me with an untelegraphed attack?

[Khergit Horse Archer]

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

i dont have the game yet, just a question.

i saw a few YT videos where the player got one shot by a normal mob without any windup or telegraph. So i wonder how big of an issue this is in last epoch.

i played POE and in post-game this becomes quite a big issue to the point where its smarter to lame with summoned creatures to draw aggro than to max the resistences.

i really do not want to summon creatures, its not an option, id rather never touch the game.
So my question is, in last epoch if i only get moderate levels of resistence (like 50%) and im not underleveled, can normal mobs still kill me with an untelegraphed attack?

arpgs usually want you to max resist, tbh you sound like you probably won't enjoy it. i'm assuming you are a very casual player as you can easily get past poe endgame without summons at all.

LE's is very much more casual friendly than poe however, it is still an arpg and there are certain expectations on difficulty.

[Warsmith Honsou]

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

i dont have the game yet, just a question.

i saw a few YT videos where the player got one shot by a normal mob without any windup or telegraph. So i wonder how big of an issue this is in last epoch.

i played POE and in post-game this becomes quite a big issue to the point where its smarter to lame with summoned creatures to draw aggro than to max the resistences.

i really do not want to summon creatures, its not an option, id rather never touch the game.
So my question is, in last epoch if i only get moderate levels of resistence (like 50%) and im not underleveled, can normal mobs still kill me with an untelegraphed attack?

there are basic mobs that can one shot you, there are big guys that will throw aoe at you and if it clips you it will kill you instantly, it does show the aoe on the ground but i have missed it before because i was surrounded by mobs and my jump was on cooldown. Bosses have one shot mechanics and it can get tedious because you make 1 mistake and you have to reset the fight.

[PXR5]

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

i dont have the game yet, just a question.

i saw a few YT videos where the player got one shot by a normal mob without any windup or telegraph. So i wonder how big of an issue this is in last epoch.

i played POE and in post-game this becomes quite a big issue to the point where its smarter to lame with summoned creatures to draw aggro than to max the resistences.

i really do not want to summon creatures, its not an option, id rather never touch the game.
So my question is, in last epoch if i only get moderate levels of resistence (like 50%) and im not underleveled, can normal mobs still kill me with an untelegraphed attack?

There are a few things to consider. Every monster has global resistance penetration equal to the lvl of the map. Your resistances cap at 75%. You can go over cap but that doesn't influence damage directly. Everyone has a base crit attack chance. You can gear up to 100% crit chance protection. If you don't you'll get into trouble down the road. There are other factors but these are the basics.

[simon]

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

i played POE and in post-game this becomes quite a big issue to the point where its smarter to lame with summoned creatures to draw aggro than to max the resistences.

Its never smart in POE (as in most ARPGs) to not have max resists and minions will not protect you from getting killed if you dont have max resists. Plus its easy to max you resists in POE. Even easier in LE with the way crafting works.

[CoolKid]

"you make 1 mistake and you have to reset the fight"

I'd say you make 1 mistake and you have to reset the entire dungeon or arena which is annoying because you lose a key. You find many arena keys but dungeon keys are harder to get unless you play on high corruption.

[PXR5]

Originally posted by CoolKid:

"you make 1 mistake and you have to reset the fight"

I'd say you make 1 mistake and you have to reset the entire dungeon or arena which is annoying because you lose a key. You find many arena keys but dungeon keys are harder to get unless you play on high corruption.

Even non corruption time lines have locations with keys. I mostly ignore them even.

[cybercybercybercyber4]

Originally posted by Khergit Horse Archer:

very casual player

i play blind, dont grind, and dont use certain mechanics. isnt everybody a casual player if there is nothing to win? i prefere dodging, positioning or blocking .


thanks guys. i wanted to play a diablo clone (that is not absurdly easy but also doesnt boil down to a numbers game) but i guess last epoch isnt what im searching for.

[PXR5]

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

Originally posted by Khergit Horse Archer:

very casual player

i play blind, dont grind, and dont use certain mechanics. isnt everybody a casual player if there is nothing to win? i prefere dodging, positioning or blocking .


thanks guys. i wanted to play a diablo clone (that is not absurdly easy but also doesnt boil down to a numbers game) but i guess last epoch isnt what im searching for.

It's not really a numbers game, or more than your average arpg, but you do you, have fun anyways.

[Khergit Horse Archer]

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

Originally posted by Khergit Horse Archer:

very casual player

i play blind, dont grind, and dont use certain mechanics. isnt everybody a casual player if there is nothing to win? i prefere dodging, positioning or blocking .


thanks guys. i wanted to play a diablo clone (that is not absurdly easy but also doesnt boil down to a numbers game) but i guess last epoch isnt what im searching for.

well arpg are all about grinding, it's a fusion between itemization and making your own builds (or copying, nothing wrong with that)

i think what you are looking for is a action rpg not an arpg, the difference here is that one emphasizes action elements over grind and build.

also all diablo clones, or arpgs are the similar formula though? i'm not sure you are confused with something else?

https://store.steampowered.com/category/rpg_action/

edit: yea i know arpg is a bit confusing, like diablo clones are arpg but different from arpg like souls clones even though they are both "arpg" lol

[GOD OF WAR SANCHEZ]

in LE resists don't actually mean to reduce damage, if you have 75% resist you take 100% dmg, but if you have less than 75% you take increased/multiplied damage

You still need armor/hp or ward to protect self, also reduce damage from crits or crit avoidance should be maxed

[CoolKid]

Originally posted by PXR5:

Originally posted by CoolKid:

"you make 1 mistake and you have to reset the fight"

I'd say you make 1 mistake and you have to reset the entire dungeon or arena which is annoying because you lose a key. You find many arena keys but dungeon keys are harder to get unless you play on high corruption.

Even non corruption time lines have locations with keys. I mostly ignore them even.

Never seen an echo reward that gives dungeon keys only arena keys.

[senitewolf]

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

Originally posted by Khergit Horse Archer:

very casual player

i play blind, dont grind, and dont use certain mechanics. isnt everybody a casual player if there is nothing to win? i prefere dodging, positioning or blocking .

That should suffice. You do you, and vs the big bosses maxing your res is a good idea. It also depends how far you want to push the game, but beating the empowered monoliths works like that. Can't speak for all class/skill combos of course, but I run my own and it works just fine.

[Psykrom]

Originally posted by cybercybercybercyber4:

i dont have the game yet, just a question.

i saw a few YT videos where the player got one shot by a normal mob without any windup or telegraph. So i wonder how big of an issue this is in last epoch.

Unless you post the video, there is no telling what you saw.
Could be someone who exploited bugs on release to gain borrowed power beyond their character builds true potential and now is stuck in a high endgame corruption level (which can be easily reverted).

The good thing about Last Epoch is that if you take it too far in difficulty, you can take it down a few notches and play more comfortably if you want (delevel monolith corruption).