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sfbistimg Mar 12, 2024 @ 2:05pm
Corruption Level?
What is the most optimal Corruption level to start farming a zone. I really need a endgame weapon upgrade and want to start farming Reign of Dragons. Is 250 corruption optimal? I mean I could definitely go higher, but the higher you go the longer it takes you to clear a map. I'm level 97 now and If I don't get a Tier 6 or 7 Slayer's Eagle Wing Axe to drop before I hit level 100 I'm going to be depressed. There's Literally not been a single 1 so far, so I would settle for a Hakar's Phoenix with 2LP hence why I want to farm Reign of Dragons.
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__MaX__ Mar 12, 2024 @ 2:23pm 
Let's say, like me, you're farming Drelkor's Compass, which is a 21% chance at LP1 and 0.00005% at LP4.

Assuming (since we don't know the exact modifiers) doubling the corruption would double the chance of getting a LP (which is definitely not the case):

In both cases, if you're running a corruption level twice as hard, but you take twice the time to run an echo you will get the exact same amount of of LP1 in the same timespan.

And for the LP4, the chance is so minimalistic that running at high corruption isn't even making a difference per say.

The ideal situation would be to have crazy people like on PoE running 1000 echos in both corruption level to actually start to have some clear stats.

In my case, I'm farming corruption 100 while buddies are farming at over 300, and I've dropped almost as much LP2 and 3 as them. This might be confirmation bias, but I'm pretty confident that at the end of the day, the difference of running extremely high corruption is not worth.

Like any ARPGs: farm the level where you can obliterate the echos/maps as fast as you can. Pushing level without being able to clean them as fast a a lower one will not net you a clear advantage in drop rate.
Ravenkid9266 Mar 12, 2024 @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by __MaX__:
Let's say, like me, you're farming Drelkor's Compass, which is a 21% chance at LP1 and 0.00005% at LP4


Depends on where you get your drop rates from. I do not think anything official has been made public.

Community sources like maxroll were off by several digits when comparing the few developer confirmed rates item to item, so take those with a mountain of salt.
Don't you think at this point you'd find more enjoyment in an accounting career or something?
sfbistimg Mar 12, 2024 @ 2:49pm 
so what I'm getting from this is 250 is more than good enough to just farm out a timeline. Since I clear it with ease and have no chance of dying and losing loot
Ayk- Mar 12, 2024 @ 3:08pm 
LP4 drop rates are even worse than mirror in poe or t0 uniques, and we have a common rule when it comes to farming those.
You always farm the content you can do the fastest so you can buy it off from trade or will roll the dice more if you are playing ssf.
In LE, I would say, the fastest corruption and timeline you can though I am pretty sure corruption has no effect on rarity of the items dropped, only on the rewards on the webs you choose.
I found all my t7 exalts and LP3-4s while merely pushing to 200 corruption. Highest I tolerated to have without getting bored was 360 and I found nothing interesting.
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__MaX__ Mar 12, 2024 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:
Depends on where you get your drop rates from. I do not think anything official has been made public.

lastepochtools.com

You're right, but let's say they're off by a margin of 100 for that LP4, so 0.005. You would still need to drop 200 Drelkor's to see a single LP4.

That's still some insane farming :p
Ravenkid9266 Mar 12, 2024 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by __MaX__:
Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:
Depends on where you get your drop rates from. I do not think anything official has been made public.

lastepochtools.com

You're right, but let's say they're off by a margin of 100 for that LP4, so 0.005. You would still need to drop 200 Drelkor's to see a single LP4.

That's still some insane farming :p

Fair enough, seems EHG increased the drop rates with 1.0 despite claiming they were going to decrease them. According to letools lp4 ravenous got a drop rate buff since the last time a developer confirmed the rates.

Edit clarity: I would have sworn letools only gave vague numbers, must have changed since the maxroll drop rates.
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sfbistimg Mar 12, 2024 @ 4:52pm 
Originally posted by Ayk-:
LP4 drop rates are even worse than mirror in poe or t0 uniques, and we have a common rule when it comes to farming those.
You always farm the content you can do the fastest so you can buy it off from trade or will roll the dice more if you are playing ssf.
In LE, I would say, the fastest corruption and timeline you can though I am pretty sure corruption has no effect on rarity of the items dropped, only on the rewards on the webs you choose.
I found all my t7 exalts and LP3-4s while merely pushing to 200 corruption. Highest I tolerated to have without getting bored was 360 and I found nothing interesting.

This cant be true as I have gotten 2 4LP uniques in like 97 levels and zero mirrors in over 3000 hours in poe
boold88 Mar 12, 2024 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by sfbistimg:
Originally posted by Ayk-:
LP4 drop rates are even worse than mirror in poe or t0 uniques, and we have a common rule when it comes to farming those.
You always farm the content you can do the fastest so you can buy it off from trade or will roll the dice more if you are playing ssf.
In LE, I would say, the fastest corruption and timeline you can though I am pretty sure corruption has no effect on rarity of the items dropped, only on the rewards on the webs you choose.
I found all my t7 exalts and LP3-4s while merely pushing to 200 corruption. Highest I tolerated to have without getting bored was 360 and I found nothing interesting.

This cant be true as I have gotten 2 4LP uniques in like 97 levels and zero mirrors in over 3000 hours in poe
Then You are extremely lucky :)
congratz
__MaX__ Mar 13, 2024 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by sfbistimg:
This cant be true as I have gotten 2 4LP uniques in like 97 levels and zero mirrors in over 3000 hours in poe

I'm sorry to say that this is bias confirmation AND not really the only info needed since we've all seen a LP4 with my group of friends.
Some items have a LP4 far higher than any other item.

For instance: Fighting Chance have a LP4 chance of 1:1300, when Windgards have a 1:26000000 ratio. ( yes, millions. And some are in the billion marks )

Mirrors is a singular item and the drop rate is the same for everyone. So there's no comparison here. An actual LP4 worthy unique in LE is definitely a "mirror tier" item.

Also there's always the "RNG is a bit**" situation: a newcomer could drop a mirror in it's first PoE playthrough after reaching the maps, and on the other hand most players haven't seen one in over 5K hours.

In the first scenario, you can't say "Oh yeah, everyone should drop at least a mirror in their first playthrough". That's not a statistic, that's simply luck : )
Ayk- Mar 13, 2024 @ 2:28am 
Originally posted by sfbistimg:

This cant be true as I have gotten 2 4LP uniques in like 97 levels and zero mirrors in over 3000 hours in poe

You do realize there are hundreds of unique items right? Each of them have a seperate chance of rolling to LP4, many of them are just labeled as impossible.
I have two LP4 items rotting in my stash, both are horrible items that will reduce the value of the exalted item because they are leveling uniques with terrible bases.
Unless you want to give us a screenshot here of your hot LP4 ring of atlaria, omnis or some other high end unique people want to use in endgame?

EDIT: Wow, you actually screenshotted one of the worst unique LP4's in game LOL. Keeper's gloves is a literal meme item but congrats on your find regardless.
Last edited by Ayk-; Mar 13, 2024 @ 2:49am
Baron01 Mar 13, 2024 @ 3:37am 
@OP
This is vague question as efficiency depends on how fast you can clear echo at any given corruption. I would not seriously farm below 200 corruption as that gives max blessing count on bosses--you want to hunt for perfect blessing along your farming for gear. My understanding is target farming comes from echo rewards, which means you want to complete an echo as fast as possible and gather as many rewards in as short time as possible.
You can manipulate your zones with use of Memories to have very good rewards and farm it repeatedly without resetting it.

I definitely have seen noticeable increase in appearance of T7 and double-T6 drops going from 150 to 200+ corruption. I can not say I have seen similarly noticeable increase in LP drops but I assume this is a lot harder to grasp without making some kind of record.


Originally posted by sfbistimg:
This cant be true as I have gotten 2 4LP uniques in like 97 levels and zero mirrors in over 3000 hours in poe

Welcome to the Statistics 101. Neither of those events have anything in common nor they impact occurrence of each or any other event. You simply got lucky with your random LP4 item drops. Now try to get specific item with LP4 and report back when that happens.
Ravenkid9266 Mar 13, 2024 @ 4:40am 
Originally posted by sfbistimg:
This cant be true as I have gotten 2 4LP uniques in like 97 levels and zero mirrors in over 3000 hours in poe

Not only a lopsided comparison a factually poor one at that. Anyone who wants to find a mirror will find a mirror if they put in the work for it. Plenty of information out there on target farming/alt methods of acquisition. Not to mention if mirrors were really that rare you would be unable to buy them. Rare means rare, not the marketing tactic it has become.

Meanwhile despite all these years despite all these players no one has found an lp4 ravenous. I like that example as it's boss specific but a "manditory" boss as opposed to like lagon who likely has a reduced sample size.
Katitoff Mar 13, 2024 @ 4:47am 
Originally posted by sfbistimg:
What is the most optimal Corruption level to start farming a zone
The maximum one you can handle without struggle.
Higher corruption=higher chance for more than 1 LP.
Ayk- Mar 13, 2024 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by Ravenkid9266:

Meanwhile despite all these years despite all these players no one has found an lp4 ravenous. I like that example as it's boss specific but a "manditory" boss as opposed to like lagon who likely has a reduced sample size.

You don't need to give that as an example. Void is already super rare for lp0.
No LP4 Woven Flesh's on bazaar, unless they get insta sniped or not listed at all. For context, Woven Flesh has a %50 chance to drop when you kill Abomination boss.
Highest I have seen was LP2 out of 100 boss kills.
There are LP3s on market, but their price is quite high as you would assume.
No LP4 like ever never?
Omnis is still impossible higher than LP1... I guess I only saw one screenshot of LP2 Omnis in early Access, but its rolls were all at minimum range lmao.
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