Lagon fight meant to get you to quit the game?

[doommetal]

The Lagon fight is a sheer wall for me, I've on 3 separate play sessions fought my way to this boss and played out the remainder of my available time for the evening to not clear him.

Is this meant to get you to quit the game? Are the developers not able to see stats that this is a huge stopping point for players in the game?

Yeah I get it the boss telegraphs but there is some RNG here and getting stunned by a claw then eye blasted combo for example is instead death.

The huge moon circle is easy to avoid once you know about it and should rightfully one shot you but his eye-laser mechanic moving around and in some cases pinches me against the wall because I was on the wrong side when it began is what gets me .. well that plus his insane health pool.

I even spent a whole night farming cold & lightning gear and got my cold & lightning resistances up to both above 75% and his eye can still one shot me...

Can I go grind mobs and out level this guy?

Any help from players other than 'get good'?

[Saeko]

i killed lagon after 20 try as a same level with a 4 pet necromancer build, one friend killed first try as falconer 4 lvl under him and one friend after 160 try with a beasmaster 3 level over him !

But i just rage quit now, so many oneshot mecanic in this game at endgame, i'm getting older and i'm not a ninja, i need a sec to react and not 0,0005 sec before dying !

It's sad because the game got almost everthing right for me as a H&S but the game is so hard to me and i say it, when i finished all Dark souls, nioh, elden rings etc..... a little sad here !

[DarthofTaco]

The Only way you deal with that asshats is Cold and Lightning Resist. His Cold and Lightning damage is NASTY and that moon beam WILL 1 shot you.

[Squeeb]

I did monolith a bit and out leveled him. There is also a safe spot on the left. You can look it up easily on youtube.

[tankanidis]

Hope this helps, we all been there:

Originally posted by tankanidis:

Originally posted by Vegapunk-Σ:

Lagon is the obligatory build/gear check. I've had 2 characters bricked in the time I've spent playing. Turning to build guides hasn't worked either, so I dunno. Pointlessly difficult.

No Class is 'bricked' in Last Epoch

You can spend gold to un-do your Mastery Points and pick something else if you feel you aren't getting a return on your point investment

Gear is easily farmable in the maps leading up to Lagon (the water mobs map to open up the temple for example)

The Coral RIngs are a great investment if your build has no sustain (hp regen / hp leech) as they come with hp regen as an implicit (the item will always have it as base)

You need to increase your resists and have a way to gain health back or prevent it from being lost (ie. ward)

This isn't POE where a character is scrap if it's not built well into end game (In POE its easier to make a new one then try to fix one that didn't make it)

Last Epoch is very forgiving in this sense in comparison and superior for it

The biggest killer in Lagon fight is the dragging eye beam he does. He moves his neck back and targets a side, you need to run to the other side (or hide in the top left corner away from it)
The 3rd phase (when you return to his head) that beam is intended to kill you if it hits you (even if you use a movement skill through it)
While there are players who manage to tank this hit with their super tank builds, its not the intention of the fight so make sure you are out of it when it goes off (his eye glows red after moving his neck and the beam drags half the platform)

Originally posted by tankanidis:

Originally posted by DoubleD:

The game is face roll easy till you hit Lagon and he just can't be beat. I'm in offline mode so no extra people to carry me. You know something wrong with a boss when everything else is easy and he can't be beaten after 100 trys. You should just put him in the entrance to level 1 because it feels about the same.

We all hit the Lagon wall, fell over, and learnt from others how to beat them, so let's continue the trend:

1) You need Physical resist / Lightning Resist / Ice Resist, 75% if possible
2) You need a way to sustain your life, that means hp-regen / hp leech / lots of ward, pick one
3) You need to get the hell out of the way when Lagon moves his neck and his eye glows red. He will drag his eye beam across half the ledge. This attack will kill 99.99% of players in the 3rd phase (when you return to his head) unless you are a super tank (which if you were you wouldn't be making this thread so run to the other side of the platform)

If your build has no hp+regen, i recommend the coral rings that drop starting from the Thetima maps with the fish mobs, they give easy regen for 2 item slots

I highly recommend a movement/traversal skill to move out of the way faster for stuff and to get around faster in general. Consider adding one to your build, if not consider using it for the fight itself and take it off later

There's a sweet spot where you can hide from most of Lagon's stuff in the top left corner, or on the stairs if the above seems too hard

You can traverse through his eye beam on Phase 1 to cut down damage if it hits you, but don't try it on Phase 3 or you will die to 1 shot

Let me know how you go and if you need anymore help, we've all been here

[JustSmile]

Even with mediocre gear your traversal skill should be fast enough to survive going across the moving beam attack if you get yourself pinned, and the instant eye thunder blast should not be dealing enough damage to onetap you. Never leave home without a traversal skill equipped.

The only (nigh)instant death attacks are the circle blast and moving eye beam, which are pretty easily dodgeable. It's a long and tedious fight, but it is not a gear check.

The next god is the gear check.

[Mister Lister the Sister Fister]

one of the easiest bosses in the game with super clear indicators that he is going to cast water beam. move from side to side and avoid the ice circle and water beam and its a joke of a fight. i can beat this boss on 1000 corruption half asleep at this point.

[jaybird5446]

I don't have a ton of experience but I have fought him in the campaign and non empowered monos with two different characters. I only died once with each character.
You will get 1 shot by some mechanics no matter what build you have so in my opinion the best tactic is to have good mobility and be able to get out of the way when you need to. Use the stairs too. You can always move down there to get out of the way for a moment.
Always watch out for his red eyes and be ready to dodge when they turn red.
One of my characters was strong, (warlock), the other was very weak, (druid)
the best ability they both had for this fight was just being able to move out of the way when needed.

[CountCapacollo]

It's not hard. Like, I legitimately don't understand why people think this fight is difficult. That's not a troll, that's is on the level. How are you having difficulty?

[Balzac]

Originally posted by doommetal:

I even spent a whole night farming cold & lightning gear and got my cold & lightning resistances up to both above 75% and his eye can still one shot me...

That's not normal. Even my caster class was not one shot (thanks to the ward) -> something is wrong with your build. But as you dind't even tells us the class you are playing it's difficult to help you.

There's resistances, ward, etc... in your skill & passive trees. Add some.

Then for the fight:
First phase always go extreme right & left. Always move to the opposite position when he comes to you. Use your traversal/dash skills if you have them.

Don't hit the head. Only the arms.

And the strairs is a safe place (but I didn't even have to use it).

It might seem difficult at first, but after some time when you get his moves in your head, I wouldn't say it's easy, but it feels so.

[JustSmile]

Originally posted by groovy:

It's not hard. Like, I legitimately don't understand why people think this fight is difficult. That's not a troll, that's is on the level. How are you having difficulty?

It's literally the first place in the game - some 15-20 hrs in if you're a new player slowly going through campaign - where suddenly you don't kill the boss in 10 seconds and the attacks actually deal damage and can not be ignored. The game spent like a dozen hours teaching you nothing is dangerous and you don't need to pay attention, and then slaps down instagib mechanics and multiple phases that take minutes to kill without a coherent build. It's a pretty big paradigm shift.

[Axariel]

I think getting up the relevant resistances is important when you fight him the first time. It is also helpful to have a traversal skill and manage your MP well.

[Balzac]

Originally posted by JustSmile:

It's literally the first place in the game - some 15-20 hrs in if you're a new player slowly going through campaign - where suddenly you don't kill the boss in 10 seconds and the attacks actually deal damage and can not be ignored. The game spent like a dozen hours teaching you nothing is dangerous and you don't need to pay attention, and then slaps down instagib mechanics and multiple phases that take minutes to kill without a coherent build. It's a pretty big paradigm shift.

Yep. But it's a big moment to teach you how to build your class properly.

[Frost]

If you’re getting hit by the claw/pincer then you simply aren’t moving enough. I found success preemptively moving and ping-ponging between the tentacles.

Cap your elemental resists, get a decent amount of health and a defensive layer like ward/damage reduction can go a long way, but most of this fight is just pure movement.

If you’re having trouble here, that’s probably a sign that your gear/build isn’t that great. If you’re still relying on potions to keep you sustained at this point, then you are doing it wrong.

[Balzac]

Originally posted by Frost:

If you’re getting hit by the claw/pincer then you simply aren’t moving enough.

I totally ignored the claws. With ward + ward regen on channeling + life leech, the claws felt like mosquito bites ;-)

[Jet Uppercut]

Don't tunnel vision the one tentacle. The one-shot lazer is aimed at whatever half of the arena you're in, so when you see him start to charge it up, swap to the other side. Same thing with the moon, it's only a problem if you stand still.
If you're a melee character, it's worth respeccing a skill to take invincible dashes because the animation lock on attacking is ridiculous. If you're Druid it's worth remembering you can untransform to use Fury Leap as well.