Last Epoch

Last Epoch

Thorba Mar 7, 2024 @ 10:35am
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Uniques are boring
I dont like the way the game takes at endgame, 99% of the uniques seems to be worthles for my playstyle and this upgrading thing at the forge isnt really fun for me.

All my slots are now with lvl 93 full of exalted gear, could not find anything other useful for my build (i wasnt follwing guides or anything else and have my own playstyle).

What i really miss are real endgame high lvl drops like at diablo2, gear which is super rare to find but if you get a drop you jump up for joy (same thing goes for sets).

Nearly every other action rpg i was playing so far did it better at endgame. Maybe there are many people who will disagree with me but this is just my experience so far.
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Kao Mar 7, 2024 @ 10:45am 
D2 did well by making a lot of uniques viable for a lot of builds, through generic but powerful stats.
Also runes with which you can make whatever runeword you want.
I wonder why modern ARPGs dont take that route.
I myself find almost no unique useful for my build, which isn’t all that original.
Last edited by Kao; Mar 7, 2024 @ 10:46am
Oc Mar 7, 2024 @ 10:47am 
Most people didn't actually play D2, they just got grushed/crushed through the game and did baal runs over and over. End game D2 definitely isn't better and that's coming from someone who's played for over 20 years and its my favourite game of all time.

I personally like how the crafting works and how you have to farm for good exhalted stats to slam into a unique.

Runewords ruined d2, classic was so much better in terms of itemization especially on build 1.05 way before runewords when everyone was using rare gear that was always different from another players. It's similar here where the gear is always a little different. Not everyone using the exact same OP uniques or runewords.
Last edited by Oc; Mar 7, 2024 @ 10:49am
TyresTyco (Banned) Mar 7, 2024 @ 10:58am 
Maybe if you tell us what build you are playing we can actually provide you some info about some great uniques. If you dont follow a guide you might dont even know something for your build exists at all.

There are some useless.. some great .. some BiS... some build enabling uniques. They will also release far more in the future.
Thorba Mar 7, 2024 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by TyresTyco:
Maybe if you tell us what build you are playing we can actually provide you some info about some great uniques. If you dont follow a guide you might dont even know something for your build exists at all.

There are some useless.. some great .. some BiS... some build enabling uniques. They will also release far more in the future.
I play the german version and not sure how all this stuff is called at english, basically i play a paladin with two hand weapon, using healing hands on hit and this great melee attack where the thirtd hit always crits and the damage doubles with two hand weapons (zereißen or fluß) called at german.
Last edited by Thorba; Mar 7, 2024 @ 11:06am
DeiGratia Mar 7, 2024 @ 11:11am 
Everyone always says d2 but what they really mean is d2 lod w/updates. LE has a lot more on release than diablo 2 did when it released.

Its not like the items in the game are all the game will ever have.

Play another class/build or go play something else and come back later when they update the game
TyresTyco (Banned) Mar 7, 2024 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Thorba:
Originally posted by TyresTyco:
Maybe if you tell us what build you are playing we can actually provide you some info about some great uniques. If you dont follow a guide you might dont even know something for your build exists at all.

There are some useless.. some great .. some BiS... some build enabling uniques. They will also release far more in the future.
I play the german version and not sure how all this stuff is called at english, basically i play a paladin with two hand weapon, using healing hands on hit and this great melee attack where the thirtd hit always crits and the damage doubles with two hand weapons (zereißen or fluß) called at german.

Since I'm playing the english version I really can't name it now but looking at maxroll.. you are probably playing an rive build.. and it has a couple of uniques in it.

Might not be the most interesting but obviously pretty good ones.

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/rive-void-knight-guide

No need to follow the guide tho.. it's mainly just to show you the uniques.
Last edited by TyresTyco; Mar 7, 2024 @ 11:27am
Thorba Mar 7, 2024 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by TyresTyco:
Originally posted by Thorba:
I play the german version and not sure how all this stuff is called at english, basically i play a paladin with two hand weapon, using healing hands on hit and this great melee attack where the thirtd hit always crits and the damage doubles with two hand weapons (zereißen or fluß) called at german.

Since I'm playing the english version I really can't name it now but looking at maxroll.. you are probably playing an rive build.. and it has a couple of uniques in it.

Might not be the most interesting but obviously pretty good ones.

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/rive-void-knight-guide

No need to follow the guide tho.. it's mainly just to show you the uniques.
yes, rive is the name of this skill (txh). I will maybe check the guides someday, it was the plan to get on my own as far then i can but now at some bosses and even on coruption lvl 129 i can already feel that my build comes to his limits.

I was pushing hp to 2150 today and nearly maxed out my resis, dps is fully buffed 145k each hit but it still takes way to long to finish the big bosses.

After many many tries i killed the 100er black sun boss today (hp was enough to avoid beeing one hit) but it was painfull and dont think iwant to farm that this way.

I generally have the feeling that melee has it way harder at the endgame, next time i will test a pet class or a ranged.
Thorba Mar 7, 2024 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by DeiGratia:
Everyone always says d2 but what they really mean is d2 lod w/updates. LE has a lot more on release than diablo 2 did when it released.

Its not like the items in the game are all the game will ever have.

Play another class/build or go play something else and come back later when they update the game
Diablo was only one example i could name others, titan quest did it really good too. I was spending hundreds of hours to get a full achilles set there and as i finaly got it i was nearly unkillable. I even like the ueber unique idea at diablo4, even if most people never see such an item, you always have it in mind that the jackpot could someday happen.
asdaf Mar 7, 2024 @ 12:57pm 
yeah seems every unique is designed for a specific build.
Last edited by asdaf; Mar 7, 2024 @ 12:58pm
EmeraldFoxDeity Mar 7, 2024 @ 1:03pm 
Originally posted by Thorba:
I dont like the way the game takes at endgame, 99% of the uniques seems to be worthles for my playstyle and this upgrading thing at the forge isnt really fun for me.

All my slots are now with lvl 93 full of exalted gear, could not find anything other useful for my build (i wasnt follwing guides or anything else and have my own playstyle).

What i really miss are real endgame high lvl drops like at diablo2, gear which is super rare to find but if you get a drop you jump up for joy (same thing goes for sets).

Nearly every other action rpg i was playing so far did it better at endgame. Maybe there are many people who will disagree with me but this is just my experience so far.
In my experience, 99% of uniques are useless without legendary potential. And even then, anything less than 3 legendary potential on them are less then ideal. Frankly 1 or 2 legendary potential should be the floor for uniques, not 0. So many of them, regardless of any interesting genuinely unique stats, are lacking in basic necessities for your class and build without having them slammed on.
sdev09 Mar 7, 2024 @ 1:33pm 
similar discussions going on in d4 forums :-) i'm back to lost ark, at least a challenge and nice animations and proper hotbar full of skills.
Last edited by sdev09; Mar 7, 2024 @ 1:33pm
Thorba Mar 7, 2024 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by sdev09:
similar discussions going on in d4 forums :-) i'm back to lost ark, at least a challenge and nice animations and proper hotbar full of skills.
Sadly a multiplayer game with raids as endgame and pay to win factor, would play it if it was a solo game in the tradition of diablo.
hexentwerk Mar 7, 2024 @ 2:57pm 
Acolyte spellcasters have some cool uniques but for minion necro it's bleak, like there really only is the wraithlord. After 300 the only minion builds working seem to be buffed up wraithlord or non decaying abomination anyway. I really hope they'd go more into that direction, as with the wraithlord head unique - all the other minion related items are pretty unspectacular.
Golems glitching out of existence has kept me from trying Aarons will which would prolly be the only other necro minion unique that isn't just simple +x stat / skill.
There's also exsanguination or whats it called, but the only uniqueness about it is the blood/necro fx bubble around you lol

Some boss specific gear is quite rare, or I was just extraordinarily unlucky at for example getting frostbite shackles to drop at all, let alone higher than 1-2 potential
PS: And Omnis, bloody hell
Last edited by hexentwerk; Mar 7, 2024 @ 3:02pm
Psycha Mar 7, 2024 @ 7:33pm 
And people thought D4 was bad with endgame, welcome to something worse <3

Enjoy people.

I put in my time here in EA, will just watch this simmer in its own juices with 1.0
CountCapacollo Mar 7, 2024 @ 9:00pm 
Sounds like you're salty you didnt get the LP4 you've always dreamed about. Keep farming nerd.
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Date Posted: Mar 7, 2024 @ 10:35am
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