We have to rebuy stash tabs every cycle?

[Partyrock]

With the discussion over gold today, EHG has blatantly implied that, for every cycle, we will have to rebuy stash tabs. Which was probably already assumed, but I don't know if certain. Is there any way that we can save the templates of our current stash tab set up?

Perhaps lock the stash tabs that we finished the cycle with until we pay to unlock them again.

Or just leave them so we don't have to keep buying stash tabs. The ability to properly organize our items is kind of in the range of having us buy UI buttons so we can get to menu functions. A little over the top.

The dungeon gamble thing seems enough of a gold sink.

[Morianix]

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@Balm
The whole point of an elaborate post was to demonstrate I care <: and I like to support companies who tailor their products to evermore growing diversity of game styles which people who buy their products have by giving options. For me, this game is a first sign of hope in a completely unreasonable and incomprehensible trend of aRPGs which forces you to basically replay the game every time you want to enjoy its new content. There are people who have this kind of time and don't see a problem with it. I simply belong to the player base that don't see a reason why there cannot be a compromise for people who like to have feeling of their time invested in it, not going to waste. And keep supporting the franchise in years to come, so I can enjoy their content where I have time for it, not where the cycle tells me I should. It is very toxic trend that has developed within this game genera, and it is beyond me why it is so.

BTW I horde Exalted items, as they are what makes a good leggy, and you cannot have enough of those. To keep your gamble options opened.

My new policy on exalted is to just forge them right away to see if i'm going to sell or crush them..guess its important to avoid major inventory tetris headaches :)

Yeah but this is still more of an way you approach your stash content and not that you are forced to re grind the stash space. Because eventually i will always have to prioritize not to end up in a sea of useless items. As long as timing of that choice is on my side, not the Cycles timing side.

[Morianix]

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as every day passes and more news come I wish I would have rolled an offline character, these cycles/season stuff is so boring

I still would like to enjoy this game with friends :P

[Kazoom]

I don't mind paying again, but I would like to save my tab setup.

[maxsagace]

And what will happen to the stuff/ gold with have gain in the cycle characters? They will transfert the equipment from my cycle stash into my legacy one ? or they will just erease it ?

[Spooki Spoopi]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Partyrock:

With the discussion over gold today, EHG has blatantly implied that, for every cycle, we will have to rebuy stash tabs. Which was probably already assumed, but I don't know if certain. Is there any way that we can save the templates of our current stash tab set up?

Perhaps lock the stash tabs that we finished the cycle with until we pay to unlock them again.

Or just leave them so we don't have to keep buying stash tabs. The ability to properly organize our items is kind of in the range of having us buy UI buttons so we can get to menu functions. A little over the top.

The dungeon gamble thing seems enough of a gold sink.

Bro, just play the game and USE YOUR GOLD THAT YOU EARN WHILE PLAYING. Stop whining.

[Tensu]

I am confused, What is the issue. Its not like gold is super hard to come by if you are playing regularly you should easily be able to by tabs. even when you are in the 20ish range of tabs they are still around 150k each.

And if your reasoning is you dont play they much so that takes a long time to gather, what do you need 20+ tabs for if you are playing for so little time?

I have 2 characters a aco and rogue.

I have 3 tabs for idols. 1 for general and 1 for each of the classes. a tab for each character to toss random gear in to mess with and save for crafting and those are the major ones, my other like 10 tabs are just all the random unique I have 99% of them I could just chuck cause I will never use them but I have just held onto cause i could afford the spare tabs.

[Karnadon]

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if they remove my organized stash tabs each season i will not play

They will not remove it. They will move it to legacy.

[Morianix]

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I am confused, What is the issue. Its not like gold is super hard to come by if you are playing regularly you should easily be able to by tabs. even when you are in the 20ish range of tabs they are still around 150k each.

And if your reasoning is you dont play they much so that takes a long time to gather, what do you need 20+ tabs for if you are playing for so little time?

I have 2 characters a aco and rogue.

I have 3 tabs for idols. 1 for general and 1 for each of the classes. a tab for each character to toss random gear in to mess with and save for crafting and those are the major ones, my other like 10 tabs are just all the random unique I have 99% of them I could just chuck cause I will never use them but I have just held onto cause i could afford the spare tabs.

Issue is only within instance that upcoming cycle content is forcing you to regrind the "quality of life" status of your account, that stash tabs and their content gives. Cycle requires you to waste time again to grind for gold, rather the focus on building up the legendary/exalted items base, to skip the empty grind in upcoming cycles, and focus only items which are relevant for your legendary items account value and upcoming masteries relevant items. Hence enjoying the cycle endgame much faster regardless of level or campaign progrees of newly created Alt, if cycle requires you to do so to enjoy its content.

[Sneaky⸸Blunders]

yeh keeping the template of your stash tabs but having them grayed out until you purchased them in a new cycle is the perfect middle ground IMO.

[Tensu]

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I am confused, What is the issue. Its not like gold is super hard to come by if you are playing regularly you should easily be able to by tabs. even when you are in the 20ish range of tabs they are still around 150k each.

And if your reasoning is you dont play they much so that takes a long time to gather, what do you need 20+ tabs for if you are playing for so little time?

I have 2 characters a aco and rogue.

I have 3 tabs for idols. 1 for general and 1 for each of the classes. a tab for each character to toss random gear in to mess with and save for crafting and those are the major ones, my other like 10 tabs are just all the random unique I have 99% of them I could just chuck cause I will never use them but I have just held onto cause i could afford the spare tabs.

Issue is only within instance that upcoming cycle content is forcing you to regrind the "quality of life" status of your account, that stash tabs and their content gives. Cycle requires you to waste time again to grind for gold, rather the focus on building up the legendary/exalted items base, to skip the empty grind in upcoming cycles, and focus only items which are relevant for your legendary items account value and upcoming masteries relevant items. Hence enjoying the cycle endgame much faster regardless of level or campaign progrees of newly created Alt, if cycle requires you to do so to enjoy its content.

but you grind gold while building all of that up. You are not going to need 20 tabs on day 1. Its not like all your items are going to carry over so you will need somewhere to put them, You will build up a stock pile of items and gold and the only real items i see being stock piled would be unique you find since its not like you need to hold onto a item right up till you need the crafting mats. Any that are not well rolled exalts that you will save for LP crafting can just be shattered and take up 0 inventory space, and any items you are saving up for LP will take up like 1 tab.

The only reason i could see this being a issue is if you are someone who hordes every item that drops for the possibility it might be used for some random build you might wanna try out one day but even then i would not see a need for more then one tab to toss that random junk into.

As i said, I have around 20 tabs total right now. I have a aco and 3 rogues.
I use 3 tabs for idols. 1 general and 1 for each classes.

I have 2 tabs for their gear. 1 to stash my aco gear to mess with and another for my 3 rogues.

The rest of my tabs are like "helm, Belt, Body, boots, gloves." that are for unique I find and 95% of those I could chuck cause they are never going to be used so I could easily get away with 2-3 tabs for those max I have only bought all the tabs cause I had the extra gold for it.

even the uber goobers who raced to world first 100 and have been playing for 15+ hours a day are barely using 10 tabs.

[Morianix]

indeed, however it does not solve the problem of lost access to your previously made legendaries. Perhaps game earned account wide stash tabs could be an idea. Regardless of the cycle you can have up to X tabs that you can share items from previous cycles to keep your cycle time, focused on cycle specific items, if you want to do so.

This is only within an instance that cycles are connected to new masteries and game content. Because if a new masterie comes out and I can start a new Alt on my online legacy account. There is no issue. Since all the time-spent value is kept there. I just want to have an option not to grind empty hours for stuff I already did in previous cycles/seasons.

[Tensu]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Morianix:

indeed, however it does not solve the problem of lost access to your previously made legendaries. Perhaps game earned account wide stash tabs could be an idea. Regardless of the cycle you can have up to X tabs that you can share items from previous cycles to keep your cycle time, focused on cycle specific items, if you want to do so.

This is only within an instance that cycles are connected to new masteries and game content. Because if a new masterie comes out and I can start a new Alt on my online legacy account. There is no issue. Since all the time-spent value is kept there. I just want to have an option not to grind empty hours for stuff I already did in previous cycles/seasons.

So wait its not just the tabs you wanna keep but the items in them? if that is the case there is a solution just dont play the cycle version just play the legacy or whatever it is. that is exactly what you want. it is just the game but nothing resets.

The whole point of making a "Ladder" or cycle character is to just reset and start fresh every season.

[Morianix]

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Issue is only within instance that upcoming cycle content is forcing you to regrind the "quality of life" status of your account, that stash tabs and their content gives. Cycle requires you to waste time again to grind for gold, rather the focus on building up the legendary/exalted items base, to skip the empty grind in upcoming cycles, and focus only items which are relevant for your legendary items account value and upcoming masteries relevant items. Hence enjoying the cycle endgame much faster regardless of level or campaign progrees of newly created Alt, if cycle requires you to do so to enjoy its content.

but you grind gold while building all of that up. You are not going to need 20 tabs on day 1. Its not like all your items are going to carry over so you will need somewhere to put them, You will build up a stock pile of items and gold and the only real items i see being stock piled would be unique you find since its not like you need to hold onto a item right up till you need the crafting mats. Any that are not well rolled exalts that you will save for LP crafting can just be shattered and take up 0 inventory space, and any items you are saving up for LP will take up like 1 tab.

The only reason i could see this being a issue is if you are someone who hordes every item that drops for the possibility it might be used for some random build you might wanna try out one day but even then i would not see a need for more then one tab to toss that random junk into.

As i said, I have around 20 tabs total right now. I have a aco and 3 rogues.
I use 3 tabs for idols. 1 general and 1 for each classes.

I have 2 tabs for their gear. 1 to stash my aco gear to mess with and another for my 3 rogues.

The rest of my tabs are like "helm, Belt, Body, boots, gloves." that are for unique I find and 95% of those I could chuck cause they are never going to be used so I could easily get away with 2-3 tabs for those max I have only bought all the tabs cause I had the extra gold for it.

even the uber goobers who raced to world first 100 and have been playing for 15+ hours a day are barely using 10 tabs.

Thus far the aRPG incomprehensible trend leads me to believe that for some reason it is not reasonable to share the best items from previous seasons into a new one. So you can save yourself some time (which not a lot of people have )towards getting to the endgame content and keep upgrading our best items database. Cap it at levels ok, but let me enjoy the rewards I earned before, and don't force me to pointlessly grind for the same things again, just because I want to enjoy new content.

[Morianix]

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indeed, however it does not solve the problem of lost access to your previously made legendaries. Perhaps game earned account wide stash tabs could be an idea. Regardless of the cycle you can have up to X tabs that you can share items from previous cycles to keep your cycle time, focused on cycle specific items, if you want to do so.

This is only within an instance that cycles are connected to new masteries and game content. Because if a new masterie comes out and I can start a new Alt on my online legacy account. There is no issue. Since all the time-spent value is kept there. I just want to have an option not to grind empty hours for stuff I already did in previous cycles/seasons.

So wait its not just the tabs you wanna keep but the items in them? if that is the case there is a solution just dont play the cycle version just play the legacy or whatever it is. that is exactly what you want. it is just the game but nothing resets.

The whole point of making a "Ladder" or cycle character is to just reset and start fresh every season.

OK so this is what I was asking to clarify before as it is not really clear to me. I was under impression that there is some part of the 1.0 release, that would not be accessible to me if I would start a Legacy Alt. If that is not the case, and wont be in the future cycels, then I stand corrected!.
But thus far I do not have that feeling. As all thus far aRPG reason, it is perfectly normal to reset your account before you start enjoying the new mechanics/content of the season/cycle.

[Tensu]

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So wait its not just the tabs you wanna keep but the items in them? if that is the case there is a solution just dont play the cycle version just play the legacy or whatever it is. that is exactly what you want. it is just the game but nothing resets.

The whole point of making a "Ladder" or cycle character is to just reset and start fresh every season.

OK so this is what I was asking to clarify before as it is not really clear to me. I was under impression that there is some part of the 1.0 release, that would not be accessible to me if I would start a Legacy Alt. If that is not the case, and wont be in the future cycels, then I stand corrected!.
But thus far I do not have that feeling. As all thus far aRPG reason, it is perfectly normal to reset your account before you start enjoying the new mechanics/content of the season/cycle.

more or less for the first few "seasons" or cycles or whatever they are going to call them the cycle realm and legacy will be the same. Just the legacy will have no restart so you will keep all your characters, gold, items, tabs, faction rep etc.

Cycle characters will not be lost they are just moved to the legacy realm at the end of the cycle and anyone who wants to play on the new cycle will need to start from scratch.

However from what they have said after the first few cycles the two will be different the cycle realm will have things added and removed that legacy will not till the end of that cycle. so if you wanna play with the new toys you will either need to wait however many months the cycle last for it to be moved to legacy or start over fresh.