About the Arena Key gold price nerf

[Rico]

Today's patch gutted the gold farming method for CoH players leaving no alternative, and I think that's completely fine.
It is fine because it was exploited by MG players who knew about the key farming method and used that to get a headstart in the Broker. It also gave a very good method for Gold farmer bots.

What is NOT fine is the complete lack of counter balance for any affected CoH players. All of the negative comments and solutions I have read so far is to make another gold farming method (which then would be exploited by the above mentioned MG players and bots).
What we actually need, that I haven't read anywhere is a massive reduction in the stash tab prices to compensate for the lack of reliable gold.

As it currently stands the only real use of gold for non-MG players are Stash tabs, the Lightless Arbor and Runes of Shatter. Runes can be target farmed elsewhere and the LA's main purpose is to be an endgame gold sink, however for stash tabs there is no alternative method of obtaining them. Reducing their price would positively affect CoH players who have to hoard several tabs of items either for Alts or for Legendary crafting, while not giving any additional exploits for bad actors. Also for implementation I don't think it would require any more work than changing some numbers and a few lines of codes for the devs.

I know the EHG team reads these forums, so I wanted to put this out there and make this idea heard.

[M.D. Geist]

yes, that current exponential price increase is not good. probably some kind of asymtotic s curve would be better.

[Galvanized Dreamer]

I have a solution:
Remove factions, replace all trading with barter. You want something? Get another item comparable in value.

On the topic however:
The problem at its core here is RMT, and there is really only one way to get rid of that, and that is to completely get rid of inter-player transfer of valuables. That's not really an option, but this is getting a little insane. I have blocked three gold seller accounts on US East in the last two days. If it keeps going at this rate. it's going to be KR DFO or WoW where the entire economy is centered around purchased gold being the norm before too long.
When it comes to "counter balance," the problem is that any method by which to farm gold is going to be abused by those who sell it, as you have already stated. This is mostly because gold is account wide, which is a strange decision if you ask me.

As for stash tabs, what about Prophesies that give you free tabs if you complete them? Maybe some sort of ticket system where you get an item worth, say, a thousand gold but only get used when buying tabs? Just spitballing.

[Renkuya]

The logic makes zero sense. Reduce the price so it can't be farmed by the people who sell items to farm gold, while actively ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the people who earn their gold by farming useless key prophecies. Getting 30k from a prophecy isn't that insane compared to people selling items for millions and millions. This was an action against CoF players towards MG players.

[Renkuya]

Sorry for the double post

"Added Prevention for CoF bonuses from doubling XP tome rewards in Monoliths
This is also technically a bug fix as the XP Tome Reward isn't a direct item reward. Item Factions are not intended to have an effect on experience gains, only how items are obtained."

♥♥♥♥ complaining about the keys wtf is this ♥♥♥♥? Was this just a "dump on CoF players" patch?

[HazE_DayZ]

You've got to blame the gold farmers to be honest. Personally, I make gold by farming Monoliths. So, no so fussed about the nerf.

[Partyrock]

This was far from widely known. If you were keeping it to yourself then you were and are an exploiter. Glad they did this.

[JoeWhizer]

I have around 30 stash tabs already, sitting on 1.7 million gold and didn't sell a single key and I'm playing CoF --- I find it pretty okay to get to gold and buy stash tabs.

doing the echo rewards with gold is a pretty good income for gold over time.

[JustSmile]

Originally posted by JoeWhizer:

I have around 30 stash tabs already, sitting on 1.7 million gold and didn't sell a single key and I'm playing CoF --- I find it pretty okay to get to gold and buy stash tabs.

doing the echo rewards with gold is a pretty good income for gold over time.

A gold echo reward gives like 7k. Sorry if I don't find it particularly impressive.

[JoeWhizer]

Originally posted by JustSmile:

Originally posted by JoeWhizer:

I have around 30 stash tabs already, sitting on 1.7 million gold and didn't sell a single key and I'm playing CoF --- I find it pretty okay to get to gold and buy stash tabs.

doing the echo rewards with gold is a pretty good income for gold over time.

A gold echo reward gives like 7k. Sorry if I don't find it particularly impressive.

emm, no? I usually get around 15-20k, sometimes 30+ when the double reward hits. 4-5 of them and I have 100k gold farmed. Not sure what you're doing.

[JoeWhizer]

and sometimes in the reward chest is another 5-10k ... mostly its less then 2k but rarely it hits 5-10k. plus in the echos often are gold shrines, which also give some 5-10k.

So for me it all sums up together really good I think

[MrWitz]

The cost of stash tabs is indeed a problem, especially for CoF players. The ONLY buff we have of MG is that we get more drops....but we can't store it because we cant afford tabs. MG players don't really need that many tabs, cuz they can just go and buy a whole set of gear for less than the cost of a new stash tab.

[srammerwv]

couldn't agree more about the cost of the stash tabs. I'm constantly broke and out of space. MrWitz nailed it!

[tankanidis]

they should increase drop rate of gold as you level up from all monsters + add gold to all monolith rewards, regardless of what the other rewards are giving (scaling up for level)

The aim is for real high level chars to be able to make gold, not low level gold farmer types

[JoeWhizer]

Originally posted by srammerwv:

couldn't agree more about the cost of the stash tabs. I'm constantly broke and out of space. MrWitz nailed it!

then maybe don't pick every single item up and get a filter ;-)

[JustSmile]

Originally posted by JoeWhizer:

Originally posted by JustSmile:

A gold echo reward gives like 7k. Sorry if I don't find it particularly impressive.

emm, no? I usually get around 15-20k, sometimes 30+ when the double reward hits. 4-5 of them and I have 100k gold farmed. Not sure what you're doing.

I just did a few cash echoes, got 9k, 10k, 8k, 9k. With a bit of variance I'll assume it drops just shy of 10k base and scales a bit with corruption (this was on a character that barely unlocked empowered monos). So yea - still really unimpressed with it as a gold farming method when you need to find and run 10-15 of them for one tab, and that number only increases.