Does this game go on sale anymore?

[FOTUS (Felon of the U.S)]

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[Koala 4peace]

Publicado originalmente por Anabis:

Will the future content in the next 10 years be available to players who buy the game for 35 dollars? Or then there will be surprises from the category of buy new content paid DLC. Developers will add new game mechanics to this DLC, which in the new season make the base version of the game useless. This has already been done by other games from other companies.

The long range monetization model is not completely clear to me.

In theory the seasonal content will be available to all players, whether they buy MTX or not. Unfortunately, EHG has proven to be unreliable on their word.

Personally, i would prefer a traditional model with paid expansions and no cosmetic store, since seasonal content in other games is hilariously underwhelming compared to expansions. Give or take 10 PoE seasons would be equal in quantity to your average "Lord of Destruction", with far less quality. But it is what it is.

Publicado originalmente por Nix:

It's a cosmetic only monetization... 35 for infinite stash space and access to all the content. Getting the same stash space in poe would cost you 100+.
Diablo costs 70 and often 30 x individual skin + battle pass every season + paid expansions... 35 for this game it's fair, considering that before release has even more content than d4 and a solid endgame.

As always, others doing worse does not justify EHG being slightly less bad. But to each their own.

[Ayk-]

LE is just your indie-brew D4. Less expensive, less visual quality. Same business model. Both developed by people who have no idea how ARPGs work and function, especially in endgame.
As for OP's question, if the release goes bad or they don't reach a satisfying player count, expect a discount on summer/winter 2024, not before.

[Anabis]

I tried this game. There are three good things about the game. Crafting, combat system, and visual style (the artists did a good job). Everything else is done terribly. There are no unique game activities in the game. Monoliths, Arena, Dungeons are all played the same way. The map structure is very monotonous, I had the feeling that I was running around 2-3 identical locations in which the skins just change (forest, snow, desert, etc.) In POE there are locations where the environment itself creates problems (lava, spikes, traps, mazes, small rooms with one exit where you are vulnerable to AoE, etc.). The whole gameplay of Last Epoch you just run on flat ground ahead and kill mobs with your brain completely turned off. It gets boring very quickly. Based on the speed of development game will be able to drag if it will be filled with content for another 5 years, while this entertainment for a couple of evenings no more.

[agentkido]

I'm just waiting for a sale. If one isn't coming out till summer 2024 then that's a rip but there's other games to play until then.

Pretty disappointing that the game is supposed to come out Feb 21 2024 yet there's no winter sale right before it to boost sales.

[Fighter of the Nightman]

Publicado originalmente por Anabis:

I too was expecting a sale back on Black Friday, but instead the developers raised the price further in my area. After this prank I will definitely never buy this game. But now I come here every sale and just read the funny comments. I will also keep an eye on how they will increase online after release. And how fast it will drop after the release of POE 2.

You're never going to buy the game but yet here you are on the forums. How sad.

[Anabis]

Publicado originalmente por Fighter of the Nightman:

Publicado originalmente por Anabis:

I too was expecting a sale back on Black Friday, but instead the developers raised the price further in my area. After this prank I will definitely never buy this game. But now I come here every sale and just read the funny comments. I will also keep an eye on how they will increase online after release. And how fast it will drop after the release of POE 2.

You're never going to buy the game but yet here you are on the forums. How sad.

What's the sadness? I'm interested in how this project will climb out of the low online. I'll even say more I tried it at a friend's place (didn't buy it) and became even more convinced that it will be very difficult to keep the audience of this game. I can see why 96% of players have left the game and only 4% of players are playing.

[Hattori]

this game was my number one winter sale purchase lol...shame

[Hitori]

Publicado originalmente por Anabis:

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A game with an in-game store. I can accept this in free games like POE. But there's no way I can accept it in games that cost money. You have to have a big "strange" fan base like Blizzard or Bungie to allow yourself to do that. (Sell the game, sell skins, sell battle passes within an already sold out game). Either make the game free and monetize the game store, or sell the game and regular add-ons with game content for money. Many players are already extremely negative about such aggressive types of monetization.

[Gosen]

Diablo has still 0 expansions and default armors look good, especially with so many transmog options. Diablo is brand, you pay for the name, let's be honest. Last Epoch is noname title. Make it f2p or remove mtx or you will just lose lot of potential playerbase. It's ridiculous that you even try to charge for skins in early access game, which is not f2p. If the prices were like 5$ per armor set, then maybe, but the pricing is scandalous.

PoE is free and you need like 5-15$ for stashes, that's it. They've been building their brand for long years. Stop defending this greedy developers. I hope they fail and just disappear from the industry forever. Activision is cancer too, but at least Diablo is AAA game with big budget, cinematics and playable multiplayer.

[Anabis]

Publicado originalmente por Gosen:

Diablo has still 0 expansions and default armors look good, especially with so many transmog options. Diablo is brand, you pay for the name, let's be honest. Last Epoch is noname title. Make it f2p or remove mtx or you will just lose lot of potential playerbase. It's ridiculous that you even try to charge for skins in early access game, which is not f2p. If the prices were like 5$ per armor set, then maybe, but the pricing is scandalous.

PoE is free and you need like 5-15$ for stashes, that's it. They've been building their brand for long years. Stop defending this greedy developers. I hope they fail and just disappear from the industry forever. Activision is cancer too, but at least Diablo is AAA game with big budget, cinematics and playable multiplayer.

You don't understand. First we sell the game for money and make money on those who buy it. And then after some time we say that we will transfer the game to free play and give all those who bought it some skin as a sign of respect =)

As far as I remember Last Epoch originally planned as a free-to-play and to it sold support packs for early access, but then the monetization scheme was changed.

[agentkido]

Publicado originalmente por Anabis:

Publicado originalmente por Gosen:

Diablo has still 0 expansions and default armors look good, especially with so many transmog options. Diablo is brand, you pay for the name, let's be honest. Last Epoch is noname title. Make it f2p or remove mtx or you will just lose lot of potential playerbase. It's ridiculous that you even try to charge for skins in early access game, which is not f2p. If the prices were like 5$ per armor set, then maybe, but the pricing is scandalous.

PoE is free and you need like 5-15$ for stashes, that's it. They've been building their brand for long years. Stop defending this greedy developers. I hope they fail and just disappear from the industry forever. Activision is cancer too, but at least Diablo is AAA game with big budget, cinematics and playable multiplayer.

You don't understand. First we sell the game for money and make money on those who buy it. And then after some time we say that we will transfer the game to free play and give all those who bought it some skin as a sign of respect =)

As far as I remember Last Epoch originally planned as a free-to-play and to it sold support packs for early access, but then the monetization scheme was changed.

Ah the old destiny 2 switcheroo

And greed is a hell of a drug that devs love to get hooked on.

[Ravenkid9266]

Publicado originalmente por Anabis:

As far as I remember Last Epoch originally planned as a free-to-play and to it sold support packs for early access, but then the monetization scheme was changed.

Yes LE was originally set to be F2P up to level 20 and the sticker price was only in place to curb bots, an issue we have long moved past thanks faction system. Remember the sticker price. that has only gone up, was never intended to support EHG long term.

Full 1.0 release in a year, so the notion that its funds holding LE back is a bit silly, especially with all the feature bloat when so many core functions are confirmed to be missing at 1.0.

[Guardian Mehmed]

the game won't get more price increase after release right?

[Anabis]

Publicado originalmente por Guardian Mehmed:

the game won't get more price increase after release right?

Depends on where you live. If you have Steam wallet in dollars, the price shouldn't go up. In my country, the price went up 20% during the Black Friday sale. Everything was discounted and LE got a price increase.

[FOTUS (Felon of the U.S)]

Publicado originalmente por agentkido:

Publicado originalmente por Anabis:

You don't understand. First we sell the game for money and make money on those who buy it. And then after some time we say that we will transfer the game to free play and give all those who bought it some skin as a sign of respect =)

As far as I remember Last Epoch originally planned as a free-to-play and to it sold support packs for early access, but then the monetization scheme was changed.

Ah the old destiny 2 switcheroo

And greed is a hell of a drug that devs love to get hooked on.

I stopped playing the day they screwed me and who knows how many other people with that shady BS. $60 down the drain.